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applegrove

(124,900 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 03:09 AM Oct 2024

Well I'm taking myself off the DU till after the election.

I am Canadian and do not want to interfere. I will be lurking though. And reading news on US politics because this election affects us all.

Best of luck. You got this. May it be a romp for Harris Walz. They have run an honest and admirable campaign. She has the strength and discipline to be a transformational President.

Slàinte

Applegrove

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Well I'm taking myself off the DU till after the election. (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2024 OP
Can't blame you, but you will be missed. Easterncedar Oct 2024 #1
Wth? Is something going on that two important members decide to stop all the sudden? questionseverything Oct 2024 #2
I just would rather not be in an open forum for the last 4 weeks. applegrove Oct 2024 #3
Indeed. Hate to see BOTH applegrove AND bigtree stepping off the merry-go-round. calimary Oct 2024 #4
Oh thank you. applegrove Oct 2024 #5
Agree on both members. I was a bit taken aback by bigtree's thread and find that a bit unfortunate. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #18
THIS malaise Oct 2024 #22
Applegrove, be well Hekate Oct 2024 #6
No. It is your fight and we need you. You can rest when you die. applegrove Oct 2024 #11
Understood blogslug Oct 2024 #7
Yes, you will be missed, applegrove. Cha Oct 2024 #8
Applegrove irisblue Oct 2024 #9
You will be missed EverHopeful Oct 2024 #10
I sure hope it is as you suggest. Peace to you Applegrove. Hold the light for us all, and the world. mahina Oct 2024 #12
Thank you for your posts, Applegrove! Gaytano70 Oct 2024 #13
Good luck with that. I suspect if you are "lurking" though, you will find it quite difficult not to participate, which JohnSJ Oct 2024 #14
Yes. It will be hard not to participate. applegrove Oct 2024 #16
I understand (as a Canadian too), but there is much you can do without "interfering" Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2024 #15
Yes I usually feel okay posting. But we are at a different stage applegrove Oct 2024 #17
Your tireless efforts most appreciated bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #19
Enjoy your time off, Applegrove! SheltieLover Oct 2024 #20
Myself included. Boomerproud Oct 2024 #21
I hear you, my friend. SheltieLover Oct 2024 #23
Thanks Sheltie. Boomerproud Oct 2024 #33
Yw! SheltieLover Oct 2024 #35
Thanks for all you've done, Applegrove peggysue2 Oct 2024 #24
There are a ton of non-election forums you could still participate on. Fla Dem Oct 2024 #25
THANK YOU for cilla4progress Oct 2024 #26
Sorry to hear that, you will be missed. Bev54 Oct 2024 #27
I respect your decision but just a note..I enjoy others' perspectives even if we agree. Deuxcents Oct 2024 #28
Every human being H2O Man Oct 2024 #29
Just be ready to invade and take control if we can't. ! I'm serious! lindysalsagal Oct 2024 #30
Maybe just hang out in The DU Lounge or Music Appreciation...? Montauk6 Oct 2024 #31
We look forward to your return. eh. Prairie_Seagull Oct 2024 #32
You're not interfering. ecstatic Oct 2024 #34
I will miss your posts! Nictuku Oct 2024 #36
Not sure I understand your reasoning senseandsensibility Oct 2024 #37
I'd love you to stay, but I'm glad we'll see you on the other side. Pray for us, however you do it. Scrivener7 Oct 2024 #38
Your contributions will be missed. nt BWdem4life Oct 2024 #39

questionseverything

(10,580 posts)
2. Wth? Is something going on that two important members decide to stop all the sudden?
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 03:21 AM
Oct 2024

I don’t have time to search for the important stories and appreciate posters like you doing that work

applegrove

(124,900 posts)
3. I just would rather not be in an open forum for the last 4 weeks.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 03:31 AM
Oct 2024

Thanks. I enjoy going through 20 different forums, amalgamation forums and media each day and picking out stories that may have been missed (dyslexia =wide scope). I will return.

calimary

(85,353 posts)
4. Indeed. Hate to see BOTH applegrove AND bigtree stepping off the merry-go-round.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 03:32 AM
Oct 2024

I just hope it won’t be permanent - OR the start of a trend!

BOTH YOU GUYS are loved, wanted, welcomed, and needed!

Bernardo de La Paz

(52,957 posts)
18. Agree on both members. I was a bit taken aback by bigtree's thread and find that a bit unfortunate. . . . nt
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 05:28 AM
Oct 2024

applegrove

(124,900 posts)
11. No. It is your fight and we need you. You can rest when you die.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 03:48 AM
Oct 2024

For now we need you Americans to do what you do best: build things like a winning coalition.

Cha

(308,348 posts)
8. Yes, you will be missed, applegrove.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 03:43 AM
Oct 2024

I imagine everyone needs a Break now and then.. especially the Prolific posters like you and bigtree.

Mahalo for your Well Wishes for the most Important Election in the Universe!

PS.. I agree with what you said about VP Kamala Harris!

mahina

(19,524 posts)
12. I sure hope it is as you suggest. Peace to you Applegrove. Hold the light for us all, and the world.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 03:53 AM
Oct 2024

Aloha.

Gaytano70

(1,207 posts)
13. Thank you for your posts, Applegrove!
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 04:18 AM
Oct 2024

I always enjoy reading them, and will miss them in the coming weeks! Oh, Canada! 🍁

JohnSJ

(97,942 posts)
14. Good luck with that. I suspect if you are "lurking" though, you will find it quite difficult not to participate, which
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 05:21 AM
Oct 2024

is ok if you change your mind.


Bernardo de La Paz

(52,957 posts)
15. I understand (as a Canadian too), but there is much you can do without "interfering"
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 05:24 AM
Oct 2024

I tend to limit my politics posts to issues of fact and logic, especially as major elections approach. Anyway, I can't really know or apply strategy and tactics in any meaningful way from a distance. When I lived in Silicon Valley, I did walk in to an Obama for President office, but they didn't need my help (no surprise in California). I did pick up a "Yes We Can!" Obama button that I treasure to this day.

We can always be varying degrees of basically supportive. I'll post encouraging messages occasionally such as "Get Out the Vote". I continue to post trashing RepubliCON shit moves and statements.

And there is always the Canada forum and international events, though to some extent that might be distracting to other DU members in this last month.

In summation, I don't think your posts would be particularly interfering in any way, but I understand and support your motivation.

applegrove

(124,900 posts)
17. Yes I usually feel okay posting. But we are at a different stage
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 05:27 AM
Oct 2024

and I don't feel comfy in an open forum for the next month. That's only me and my situation. Thanks for understanding.

bucolic_frolic

(49,111 posts)
19. Your tireless efforts most appreciated
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 06:15 AM
Oct 2024

Democrats are sparing no effort, the campaigns are spending immense resources, the only doubt is how all the foreign psy operations will play out on Facebook, X, currently aiming for confusion and discontent.

I leave this tidbit for any who doubt the above observation:

https://www.amazon.com/Stories-Are-Weapons-Psychological-American/dp/0393881512

Stories Are Weapons: Psychological Warfare and the American Mind

One of Publishers Weekly's Top 10 Politics/Current Events books of Spring 2024

A sharp and timely exploration of the dark art of manipulation through weaponized storytelling, from the best-selling author of Four Lost Cities.

In Stories Are Weapons, best-selling author Annalee Newitz traces the way disinformation, propaganda, and violent threats―the essential tool kit for psychological warfare―have evolved from military weapons deployed against foreign adversaries into tools in domestic culture wars. Newitz delves into America’s deep-rooted history with psychological operations, beginning with Benjamin Franklin’s Revolutionary War–era fake newspaper and nineteenth-century wars on Indigenous nations, and reaching its apotheosis with the Cold War and twenty-first-century influence campaigns online. America’s secret weapon has long been coercive storytelling. And there’s a reason for that: operatives who shaped modern psychological warfare drew on their experiences as science fiction writers and in the advertising industry.

Now, through a weapons-transfer program long unacknowledged, psyops have found their way into the hands of culture warriors, transforming democratic debates into toxic wars over American identity. Newitz zeroes in on conflicts over race and intelligence, school board fights over LGBT students, and campaigns against feminist viewpoints, revealing how, in each case, specific groups of Americans are singled out and treated as enemies of the state. Crucially, Newitz delivers a powerful counternarrative, speaking with the researchers and activists who are outlining a pathway to achieving psychological disarmament and cultural peace.

Incisive and essential, Stories are Weapons reveals how our minds have been turned into blood-soaked battlegrounds―and how we can put down our weapons to build something better.

SheltieLover

(64,041 posts)
20. Enjoy your time off, Applegrove!
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 09:01 AM
Oct 2024

You will be missed.

Seems a lot of folks are feeling this way and not just those from other countries.

SheltieLover

(64,041 posts)
23. I hear you, my friend.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:11 PM
Oct 2024

Take some time to engage in some good self-care. DU will be here when you are ready to come back.

peggysue2

(11,684 posts)
24. Thanks for all you've done, Applegrove
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:22 PM
Oct 2024

And hopefully will continue to do once this madness comes to an end. I think the DU community will respect your decision as stated.

Fla Dem

(26,340 posts)
25. There are a ton of non-election forums you could still participate on.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:25 PM
Oct 2024

But all the best. Take care.

Bev54

(12,168 posts)
27. Sorry to hear that, you will be missed.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:36 PM
Oct 2024

I understand, I too, have had DUers come after me for something so innocuous that it was ridiculous but he would not let up. I have only once put someone on ignore for a very short period of time but I can see that it may well be something I have to use more often.
It is really too bad, I have only been here 6 years but this has been the worse I have seen it, starting with the Israeli/Palestine war. It seems a lot of nerves are getting frayed.

Deuxcents

(21,243 posts)
28. I respect your decision but just a note..I enjoy others' perspectives even if we agree.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:42 PM
Oct 2024

I have a good friend who was born in Germany n her husband is British..both US citizens and proud democrats but they come to their conclusions from a different angle and yet we 100% agree..most of the time. The issue of guns is a good example. Our upbringings were all different as were our educational experiences but we learn from each other n the conversations, no matter the subject, are always a learning experience for me. Interesting to hear how we, in the US, are perceived by other likeminded but culturally diverse people. Thirty days isn’t that long so we’ll see you soon 💙

H2O Man

(76,258 posts)
29. Every human being
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:49 PM
Oct 2024

on Earth has the right to express their opinion on the felon and the election. I've long found your thoughts to be of value on this forum. While I wish that you would continue speaking here, I respect whatever choice you make.

lindysalsagal

(22,486 posts)
30. Just be ready to invade and take control if we can't. ! I'm serious!
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 12:50 PM
Oct 2024

I've met magas from all over the world, including Canadians. Something terribly wrong with our species. But come on down to florida in January! See y'all then!

ecstatic

(34,662 posts)
34. You're not interfering.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 01:05 PM
Oct 2024

But I can understand taking a break for mental health. I need to do that too.

senseandsensibility

(21,198 posts)
37. Not sure I understand your reasoning
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 02:20 PM
Oct 2024

Last edited Sun Oct 6, 2024, 03:56 PM - Edit history (1)

Why does being Canadian mean you're interfering? I don't think it does. But that's okay. You don't owe me an explanation. I've enjoyed your posts! Hope you reconsider because DU needs you!

Scrivener7

(54,496 posts)
38. I'd love you to stay, but I'm glad we'll see you on the other side. Pray for us, however you do it.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 02:29 PM
Oct 2024
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