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How about building Paradise in the middle of the Nevada desert. Build a big wall around it to keep out the "lefties." Dump in lots of weapons and let them play out their fantasies. What a buffoon.

Was thinking more remote. Maybe a old nuke test site

Those are perfect. Fast move in with first and last month's deposit and then we seal up the opening.

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Works for me!

Didn't know that. Thank you for the info.

Basically the same idea. If you committed crimes or didn't want to live in the boring society where people and companies followed the rules, you got sent to a walled region called "Coventry" ( as in the classic 18th century phrase "Get thee to Coventry" ) where there were no rules. If you survived your sentence, you would be given a choice; you could opt to stay, or be assessed for re-integration into society.
Coventry is basically a Libertarian Paradise.

Freedom Cities sound like an Eloon or Thiel proposal.

Haele

Not to mention quite a few US colonies like the Virginia colony

I still remember the limo with the chandelier headlights. That was some true style.

Violence uncorked.

Not ON the water, but IN the water.
Preferably UNDER the water.
The deeper the better.

Dept of Interior is, after all, "principal steward" of US oceans, Great Lakes, and US coastal resources

In Death Valley. 😎

of the repug agenda is REALLY about getting hold of —OUR— public lands.

This is an excellent, award winning, and compelling documentary made by Patagonia (the outdoor clothing company) that lays it all out…all the usual demons: Koch, Shell, etc

I have posted this before, and i will again:

The land, mineral rights, and other resources will be sold or leased. Trump and his thug cronies will take the money. We'll never see any of it and our land will be gone.

This is what Putin did in Russia.

I knew much of this on a surface level but this book really described the looting, the enslavement of populations, the takeover of governments, the suppression of the local economy, etc. in order to increase the wealth of the already wealthy.

It explains how Latin America, with abundant natural resources, didn't have a chance to develop. And all this was done to benefit first, Europeans, then Americans (United States).

"How to Read Donald Duck" and "Thy Will Be Done: The Conquest of The Amazon" are great.

Soviet Union fell. And it is no coincidence. When the Soviet Union was dissolving US and British libertarian advisors invaded en masse to restructure the economy. It ended up with oiligarchs in control of what had been state assets funneling as much money as possible to bank accounts abroad, stripping the assets of value and use as rapidly as possible.

There are many places in this country to build if he truly wanted to. Helene has exposed people living without clean running water in their homes, sewage systems, cable, internet, hospitals, schools. So much to improve on for so many people.

Cities almost always emerge due to the convergence of railways, highways, ports (river, sea, air or space) or forts. There are a few exceptions - arguably Las Vegas, Salt Lake City, and Scotsdale, AZ all come to mind - but I anticipate that 75 years from now neither of those cities will exist. (very high water requirements in the middle of deserts, aging populations, technological obsolescence). Most of the prime spots for building cities in the US are already occupied, and as population peaks (by 2050) and starts to decline, you're going to see cities shrinking instead of significant new city growth.

What's more, cities go through a libertarian phase, but typically grow out of it as the need for order asserts itself with higher population density. This is why you see very few modern truly libertarian cities. They become liberal.

Without birth control, abortion, and wanting to see every family have as many as possible. There won’t be a choice. Coast to coast one solid apartment block.

China built cities like that. They are starting to be filled so there is some movement to filling them. But large portions of the city are still vacant.

A lot of the land is Bureau of Land Management and that’s in the west. They are having problems with supplying water already. Toss in thousands more families and that’s asking for a disaster.

True MAGA Believers don’t want to live in cities in the first place. They want to live out in the middle of fucking nowhere on five to ten acres of forested land. If they live in town at all, maximum 5000 residents and minimum lot size of a quarter-acre is what they demand.

the gas for the range, the sewer and broadband. Trash pickup, fire and paramedics and oh yeah, schools. I do live in the middle of fucking no where and my property tax is YUGE because I have to pay for all this stuff the don't consider

Mail and roads, yes…but they’d be more than happy with a good well (no fluoride, right?), a septic tank and solar cells or a wind turbine.

Just them, some democrats like living in larger spaces too.

The silver lining is that the red minded folks in these parts recognize the value of public lands and thise who threaten access to the land will lose.

Who's surprised?

It might be worth making an OP, if you're up for it. I haven't heard of this.

Republicans and Democrats were up in arms. My neighbor who is in her 70’s has never voted for a Democrat but is going to vote for Harris partly because of this.

But here's how to do it.

Let me start... my father was a Land Developer.

You see... Land Developers acquire land. In SoCal, they're frequently privately owned ranches from the early 20th Century.

Let's say you acquire a 1200 acre piece of land.

At that point you've got to huddle with the City and County to present what you'd like to do with the property.

Developers would all like to subdivide the land into a maximum number of 10,000sf lots to sell to homebuilders to build high end expensive homes.

The City/County comes back and says NO... you've also got to build 2 parks and an Elementary School.

Recently, they've started telling the Developers they must build x% of affordable homes.

Any of you been to Austin? Or maybe Frisco Texas in the 00's?

They'll plop down a condo complex of $400k homes and it's "affordable housing"

Here's what they SHOULD do.

The US Gov't needs to spearhead a initiative to build "Liberty Homes". I'm naming that after the WW2 program where the gov't designed a standardized cargo ship design to be mass produced in wartime.

Build them "profit-free".

Make contracts with vendors, let's say... Kohler to supply 100k sinks, faucets and toilets a year. You get wholesale+ values.

So you have these Liberty Homes... maybe the L1, L2 and L3 models... 800sf, 1200sf and 1600sf with 1, 2 and 3 bedrooms.

Now back to the Developers.

Lets take Austin for example... an area like Georgetown, require the homebuilders like DR Horton or Brock or Grand Homes... require them to place Liberty (modular) Homes in subdivisions on 5000sf lots.

That way... there are 150k homes right next to the 800k homes, enjoying the same brand new shopping centers, movie theaters and schools.

This can be done.

When I was putting in miles training for marathons I noticed 80% of the tri-level houses in the area I covered ( I run slow) were all the same. Not Sears homes but the same windows, doors, # of bricks etc. Economy’s of scale.

so they want to create little Galt's Gulches where their money will be protected and lesser MAGAts will be their servant class.

Some of the schemes have been absolutely hilarious, the kind of stuff I drew when I was about twelve.

I've seen coverage of this plan to enrich private interests at the expense of the rest of us.

I've seen this being reported on in the media, and find it yet anoother reason to crush the felon in November's election.

He's stuck w/ these commercial properties especially when the market is so bad for them.

With a mote, and drones, surrounded by a MAGA wall that will leave all MAGAts breathless, and, you can’t check out and you can never leave.

They want old-fashioned company town, only this time not subject to Federal and state labor, environmental and other laws. These are their planned Libertarian utopia fantasy towns.

I owe my soul to the company store.

that putting their isms and phobias over everything else
allows the people they put in charge to steal everything
and give them nothing.

People is already buying up land in California to build a city. It sounds suspiciously like a magat city.

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Mow, baby, mow?
Uproot, baby, uproot?

Bob The Angry Flower already covered maga cities, years ago:



"I only know how to pay people to create new alloys" reminds me of rocket boy.

http://angryflower.com/348.html

They'd decide they should "fix" things to make their cities better. It wouldn't be long before they would all want to do this, and eventually they'd all be at each other's throats. Some of the biggest problems would be how the slices of the economic and political pies would be distributed. Who's going to be rich and who isn't? Who's going to make the laws, and who's going to have to follow them? Who's going to be at the bottom of the social strata, and who will be at the top?
You know that the Magat's are all-in on greed, intolerance, and judgment. These folks need someone to scapegoat, and aren't about to change just because they live in "paradise".
I expect the citizens of these perfect cities would essentially burn them to the ground within 100 years.

Speer's taste looks a lot like TFG's



And like Speer, I'll bet he would use slave labor to construct is Utopia. He would have them in those detention camps for emigrants ready made for work. We'll probably all be there too as Enemies of the Leader.

but it would be more like "Lord of the Flies".

Take away the military stuff, pay to move all the MAGAs in, and all the other people out. Build a 50 foot wall around it all (including the southern border, Mexico will be glad). And let them run it any way they please. Do whatever. See how long they last before they're begging for help. I give it six months.

Don't forget this classic :

https://www.cracked.com/article_28784_new-hampshires-libertarian-utopia-got-overrun-by-bears.html

In the 1990s, groups of self-regulating, Ayn-Rand-quoting quixotic libertarians made their way up to Grafton, taking over community centers, residential neighborhoods, and even building a survival tent community in what they called the Free Town Project. And for a while, libertarian values reigned supreme. The new Graftonites even managed to subvert the town the libertarian way: by slashing its budget, crippling it with frivolous lawsuits, and overtaxing local law enforcement with their open carry bullshit.

But soon, the interlopers were interrupted by another faction eager to bite the hand that feeds them: black bears....Sadly, since you can't debate with a bear in the free marketplace of ideas, the Free Town Project was wholly unprepared to deal with this ursine uprising. Some wanted to hunt the bears down (which is illegal but, y' know, libertarians), others wanted to feed them donuts, and some hardcore libertarians debated whether they should infringe on the bears' God-given right to eat their faces at all. And while many had come to live out in the wilds as Ron Paul intended, they had all been too busy studying the blade to learn any actual survival or bear-repelling skills.

These mixed messages only further discombobulated the black bears, causing them to assert their dominance over these message board freedom fighters, even more, invading houses and even attacking several town members. But it wasn't bears who destroyed the dream of the Grafton libertarian utopia, but libertarians. Having an actual problem to deal with simply caused half of the libertarians to try and rebel against the other libertarians, each refusing to do what the other suggested out of principle. Like a Randian ouroboros, the Free Town Project soon devoured itself, scattering its remaining ideologues and leaving Grafton with nothing but empty buildings, broken dreams, and a bad economy. Oh, and a shit ton of bears.