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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's Speeches, Increasingly Angry and Rambling, Reignite the Question of Age
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/us/politics/trump-speeches-age-cognitive-decline.htmlFormer President Donald J. Trump vividly recounted how the audience at his climactic debate with Vice President Kamala Harris was on his side. Except that there was no audience. The debate was held in an empty hall. No one went crazy, as Mr. Trump put it, because no one was there.
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He rambles, he repeats himself, he roams from thought to thought some of them hard to understand, some of them unfinished, some of them factually fantastical. He voices outlandish claims that seem to be made up out of whole cloth. He digresses into bizarre tangents about golf, about sharks, about his own beautiful body. He relishes a great day in Louisiana after spending the day in Georgia. He expresses fear that North Korea is trying to kill me when he presumably means Iran. As late as last month, Mr. Trump was still speaking as if he were running against President Biden, five weeks after his withdrawal from the race.
With Mr. Biden out, Mr. Trump, at 78, is now the oldest major party nominee for president in history and would be the oldest president ever if he wins and finishes another term at 82. A review of Mr. Trumps rallies, interviews, statements and social media posts finds signs of change since he first took the political stage in 2015. He has always been discursive and has often been untethered to truth, but with the passage of time his speeches have grown darker, harsher, longer, angrier, less focused, more profane and increasingly fixated on the past.
According to a computer analysis by The New York Times, Mr. Trumps rally speeches now last an average of 82 minutes, compared with 45 minutes in 2016. Proportionately, he uses 13 percent more all-or-nothing terms like always and never than he did eight years ago, which some experts consider a sign of advancing age.
Similarly, he uses 32 percent more negative words than positive words now, compared with 21 percent in 2016, which can be another indicator of cognitive change. And he uses swearwords 69 percent more often than he did when he first ran, a trend that could reflect what experts call disinhibition. (A study by Stat, a health care news outlet, produced similar findings.)
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Trump's Speeches, Increasingly Angry and Rambling, Reignite the Question of Age (Original Post)
Demovictory9
Oct 6
OP
New York Times?!!! This is a big step for the New York Times - questioning Trump's mental acuity.
SupportSanity
Oct 7
#4
Deep dive probe into 9 years of Trump rallies reveals startling changes: NY Times
LetMyPeopleVote
Oct 7
#6
keithbvadu2
(40,419 posts)1. DonOld does not seem to emphasize age anymore.
riversedge
(73,379 posts)2. Dems need to get a lot more articles like this. In the meantime #GOTV
Bayard
(24,145 posts)3. Dementia or Alzheimer's?
I want to see as many people calling for him to drop out as they did President Biden.
SupportSanity
(1,167 posts)4. New York Times?!!! This is a big step for the New York Times - questioning Trump's mental acuity.
Is this the start of something new for the New York Times???
SupportSanity
(1,167 posts)5. non paywall link to the article
Trumps Speeches, Increasingly Angry and Rambling, Reignite the Question of Age
non-paywall link to the article:
https://archive.ph/BBzP8
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,388 posts)6. Deep dive probe into 9 years of Trump rallies reveals startling changes: NY Times
TFG has been declining for some time. His speeches are now twice as long with a large amount of nonsense and material that does not make sense. The NYT has finally done an article on TFG's dementia and decline
Link to tweet
https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-age-2669337188/
Donald Trump's speeches have grown noticeably darker and less coherent and New York Times correspondent Peter Baker has tracked the changes using statistics.
The reporter conducted an analysis of the former president's rally speeches dating back to 2015 and found that they had nearly doubled in length, from 45 minutes eight years ago to 82 minutes now. And they show clear signs of advancing age and diminishing mental capacity.
"It's not new that Donald Trump is a discursive speaker, that he rambles, that he says things that are outrageous, that he says things that are untrue, that he seems to at times be disconnected from the norms, the standards that we are used to," Baker told MSNBC's Morning Joe.
"We see the speeches getting longer, more rambling," Baker added. "They're nearly twice as long today as they were in 2016. At the same time he's doing far fewer of them. Does that mean he's tired? We don't know. Obviously, we remember he nodded off during his hush money trial. He's doing less than one quarter of the rallies so far this year than he did in 2016, so I think it's appropriate to look at age."
The reporter conducted an analysis of the former president's rally speeches dating back to 2015 and found that they had nearly doubled in length, from 45 minutes eight years ago to 82 minutes now. And they show clear signs of advancing age and diminishing mental capacity.
"It's not new that Donald Trump is a discursive speaker, that he rambles, that he says things that are outrageous, that he says things that are untrue, that he seems to at times be disconnected from the norms, the standards that we are used to," Baker told MSNBC's Morning Joe.
"We see the speeches getting longer, more rambling," Baker added. "They're nearly twice as long today as they were in 2016. At the same time he's doing far fewer of them. Does that mean he's tired? We don't know. Obviously, we remember he nodded off during his hush money trial. He's doing less than one quarter of the rallies so far this year than he did in 2016, so I think it's appropriate to look at age."
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Torchlight
(4,251 posts)8. I think you can.
GP6971
(33,356 posts)9. Hi Sunshine!! You're late today!
No worries...we have your pizza ready.