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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's Mormon swag doesn't go over well...
Donald's appalling ignorance extends to his staff, as the Utah news story below shows in fascinating detail:
3:36 PM · Oct 11, 2024
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Solly Mack
(92,177 posts)msongs
(69,775 posts)RidinWithHarris
(625 posts)...instead of lamely leaving it at not voting for Trump.
Cha
(303,936 posts)TY Rt
jmowreader
(51,269 posts)Wounded Bear
(60,311 posts)Yet trump gets high approval/support from many of them.
Collimator
(1,811 posts). . . As do Jehovah's Witnesses.
Granted those two groups are generally regarded as extreme outliers within the worldwide community of those who identify as Christians. JWs reject the notion of Jesus as divine and Mormons, of course, regard the Book of Mormon as divinely inspired scripture, in direct contradiction of Revelation 22:18, which to the vast majority of Christians is an injunction against considering any further divine communication as legitimate or having equal weight with the OT and NT.
FreeState
(10,674 posts)Even if it was accurate to the "Bible" as a whole and not the words of John in Revelations Christians would be stuck: Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you. (Deut. 4:2.) - so all Christians should just throw out everything after Deuteronomy.
Collimator
(1,811 posts)declaring that theirs is the final and complete "Revealed Truth" from God isn't basically falling into the same self-delusion trap. (It's "Revelation" by the way, not "Revelations".)
It's particularly interesting that certain religious groups are willing to extend a degree of tolerance to those they perceive as having proceeded them in figuring out the "Truth", because they hope that their predecessors will "catch up" to them, once the new and improved version is properly explained to them. This is why a lot of Christian groups are somewhat accepting of Jewish people. Because, of course, they will someday come to realize that Jesus is the fulfillment of everything that was promised to them in the OT.
The majority of hardcore Christians are less accepting of Islam because they see that faith as the blasphemous "adding on" that scripture warns against. Jesus is the end of the road and you don't need to go further as far as they are concerned.
That tolerance towards what are seen as one's religious fore bearers exists within Islam, as well-- at least philosophically, if not always in practice. Judaism and Christianity are valued as building blocks to Islam's final "Truth" and have been afforded certain legal protections in some Muslim predominate cultures. The Baha'i Faith, which came after the "Final Knowledge" shared with Mohamed, has been persecuted because its existence suggests that God wasn't entirely pleased with their interpretation of his wisdom and commands.
As far as I know, people of the Baha'i Faith aren't currently engaged in any persecution or condemnation of any other religious group. That might change, of course, if someone comes along claiming to be the latest (and final) prophet and basically tells them, "Yeah, you guys came so close. But there are just a few things you missed. . ."
usonian
(12,957 posts)By his own admission,
Trump is The King of humility,
He boasts endlessly about his good works (for the wealthy), and
Nobody spends more to entertain his dear friends, nor give back more than he receives.
"I'll give you my football in exchange"
What a guy!"
AZ8theist
(6,326 posts)usonian
(12,957 posts)You want virtues? They're endless because they're fictional.
I a series of ads in one post that hit pretty damn hard on the 🇷🇺 ❤️ Putin love ❤️🇷🇺
I don't pick the ad topics. I've posted often about issues, and I guess that they're what you discuss with friends and acquaintances.
https://democraticunderground.com/100219548864
https://www.buzzfeed.com/morgansloss1/republicans-voting-for-kamala-harris-share-why
But if the people with the ad-meters want to whack that sleazbag and his sidekick, fine.
Such things point out the "he that smelt it dealt it" projection ... "Every accusation is a confession" and even though we at DU knew it years ago, it has been slow to penetrate that "mass unconsciousness" ... probably hidden by the smoke screen of media.
Lovie777
(14,427 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,500 posts)Trump tried to sell crap to Mormons,
Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum
wackadoo wabbit
(1,211 posts)It has to be. No one could be that ignorant and/or clueless in real life.
Seriously, is this from The Onion?
Beartracks
(13,393 posts)onecaliberal
(35,367 posts)Botany
(72,111 posts)..... called for Mormons to vote for Harris this year.
Keep talking Donny. Could Utah go blue?
paleotn
(18,914 posts)Seems theyve seen through his bullshit since day 1. Not that they vote for Dems instead. Right of center 3rd parties have done well in Utah the last 2 prez cycles.
Aristus
(67,930 posts)and in their white, short-sleeve shirts. But I cant imagine that they would see anything in Trump worth voting for.
paleotn
(18,914 posts)Old tale, can't vouch for it, but as the story goes, he and several Air Force guys would occasionally travel to Utah on various duties. On Sunday mornings, they would plant lawn chairs in the front yard of their rental, drink beer and smoke cigars, dressed in hazmat suits, while the local Mormon populace headed for church. He was a bit of a loose cannon, pardon the pun, so I wouldn't doubt it. I cannot imagine the looks on the faces of those nice, neat, polite people, subjected to that bunch of heathens. Good thing they weren't Navy guys or that would have been real trouble.
Dulcinea
(7,298 posts)...sacred underwear, but I'm not that perverse.
AZ8theist
(6,326 posts)BattleRow
(897 posts)a large number of Mormons in the organization.
niyad
(118,726 posts)DBoon
(22,969 posts)Their missionary work requires them to be fluent in a non-English language, and the local clergy makes a good background reference.
Marcuse
(7,962 posts)Enter Svatlana Ogorodnikova, a Soviet émigré. She was previously handled by another LA agent named Hunt who tried to recruit her a few years earlier, and whom she slept with. Miller took her over as a numbered asset, and began planning to save his career through her, in what he described as his blaze of glory. Miller couldnt resist having sex with her (as Hunt had) as they went forward with his plan.
In August 1984, Miller and Svetlana went on a joyride, heading from LA to San Francisco by car. They got drunk on the way up, a first for Miller. When they arrived, Svetlana went into the Soviet Consulate while Miller waited in the car. Svetlana reportedly dangled some classified information Miller had given to her.
The FBI established surveillance on the couple the following month, as they were planning another getaway to Austria to deliver classified documents to the KGB. By this time, Miller sensed he was being watched.
https://bycommonconsent.com/2020/09/28/the-clergy-privilege-in-mormon-cases-the-strange-case-of-richard-w-miller/
ailsagirl
(23,588 posts)niyad
(118,726 posts)Some time back, I had as wonderful neighbors a lovely older couple who were mormon (saints, as they said they preferred to be called). Their proseletyzing of me was very low-key, inoffensive, and amusing. One of the things that cracked me up was that the woman drank diet coke, seeming to believe there was no caffeine (as oppsed to no sugarr) in it. I never pointed out otherwise.
Of course, the lds itself has no problem making money off alcohol, caffeine, and gambling.
Wiz Imp
(983 posts)Even though this should disqualify Trump from receiving their vote, they'll still vote for him in large numbers.
ColinC
(10,248 posts)😂
Ocelot II
(119,697 posts)Is he marketing Trump honey-baked hams and Trump maple-smoked bacon to Jewish voters, too? Or Trump bikinis to Amish women?
Klarkashton
(1,369 posts)What sort of organized religion would back that bastard?
usonian
(12,957 posts)It's much more of a challenge and far less likely to corrupt.
Just my two cents worth.
AZ8theist
(6,326 posts)Critical thinking IS NOT one of their strong points. After all, believing the ridiculous Joseph Smith story proves that point. Mormon children are indoctrinated at very early ages. So much so it probably makes Imams running Islamic madrassess jealous....
Haggard Celine
(16,987 posts)And I think the Book of Mormon is ridiculous. It's obviously written by someone who is trying to write in the style of the King James Version. It's a total failure.
ColoradoHoosier
(17 posts)The xtian evangelical wing, for the most part, has lost all sense of religious decency, abandoning it to seize the reins of power; to regain that authority they had during their heyday, a time now know as the 'dark ages'. Mormons... we'll see.
johnnyplankton
(442 posts)flvegan
(64,552 posts)Just yesterday I saw a pickup with two "Trump 2024" flags flying from the back bumper.
BradBo
(613 posts)Turbineguy
(38,195 posts)to show the world what a moron you are, Donald.