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When the right's conspiracy theories are playing out before their very eyes... (Original Post) True Dough Saturday OP
Projection... Think. Again. Saturday #1
Projection is a defense mechanism. This is a planned offense tactic by the Fourth Reich. orthoclad Saturday #9
That's an interesting point, thank you! Think. Again. Saturday #11
"Projection" implies innocence, orthoclad Sunday #22
And this strategy is called what? stollen Sunday #26
Goebbeling, orthoclad Sunday #28
Information Warfare Metaphorical Sunday #29
Maybe that's why the conspiracy theorists have gotten so crazy. Biophilic Saturday #2
Ironically, the biggest conspiracy of all operates in the open. orthoclad Saturday #10
Yes, but that's a true conspiracy, not a conspiracy theory. Biophilic Saturday #14
All the "theories" are distractions, orthoclad Sunday #25
Yup. Biophilic Sunday #30
We are talking about conspiracies, and bc we do, it doesn't make us 'theorists'.... Chin music Saturday #3
To not think about it makes us BattleRow Saturday #5
I believe that was why the whole "Conspiracy Theory" concept was developed... Think. Again. Saturday #12
Ultimate projection,much? BattleRow Saturday #15
I don't understand, what do you mean? Think. Again. Saturday #16
THEY are the conspirators..but BattleRow Saturday #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Saturday #17
"Purloined Letter", by Poe orthoclad Sunday #27
Hear! Hear! littlemissmartypants Saturday #13
The David Pecker of the net infullview Saturday #4
In the end, all of their accusations end up being confessions...nt Wounded Bear Saturday #6
They doth project too much LiberalArkie Saturday #8
Not "projection", but "goebbeling" orthoclad Sunday #23
As that shitweasel... GiqueCee Saturday #7
Projection jfz9580m Sunday #19
It is so ludicrous that it's funny, at times True Dough Sunday #20
Oh yeah jfz9580m Sunday #21
It's a deliberate tactic orthoclad Sunday #24

Think. Again.

(16,635 posts)
1. Projection...
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 08:22 AM
Saturday

From Psychology Today
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/projection

Projection is the process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another. For example, if someone continuously bullies and ridicules a peer about his insecurities, the bully might be projecting his own struggle with self-esteem onto the other person.

The concept emerged from Sigmund Freud’s work on defense mechanisms and was further refined by his daughter, Anna Freud, and other prominent figures in psychology.

orthoclad

(4,451 posts)
9. Projection is a defense mechanism. This is a planned offense tactic by the Fourth Reich.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 12:31 PM
Saturday

Call it goebbeling. Herr Goebbels advised Nazis to accuse the enemy of what you're planning.

Far more insidious than projection. Not defense: offense.

I believe there is some psych term for willingly holding two contradictory ideas. That might describe the redhats. But the plan, implemented by the plutocrat media, is a deliberate strategy to obscure the plutocrats' information management.

orthoclad

(4,451 posts)
22. "Projection" implies innocence,
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:24 PM
Sunday

it's a damaged psyche trying to protect itself. What we are seeing is far worse: an aggressive strategy perpetrated deliberately to cause damage. A tactic used by the Nazis in Germany!

Metaphorical

(2,124 posts)
29. Information Warfare
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:46 PM
Sunday

Disinformation intended to assert the dominance of the State, to paint anyone who disagrees as an enemy of the State and who should be punished as such. It is intended to confuse, demoralize, make people fearful. What Trump is doing is saying "Vote for me or else ... well, that's an awful nice house you have, shame to have someone bomb it." He knows that he cannot win lawfully, and his bag of dirty tricks is largely exhausted. All he has left is threats, to make people believe that he has an army of people willing to march at his command. In actuality he really doesn't ... but he's now locked into that bluff.

Biophilic

(4,562 posts)
2. Maybe that's why the conspiracy theorists have gotten so crazy.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 08:25 AM
Saturday

Reality is just on the edge of crazy, if not tipping over the edge.

orthoclad

(4,451 posts)
10. Ironically, the biggest conspiracy of all operates in the open.
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 12:33 PM
Saturday

The control of society by the plutocracy. Mux illustrates this well.

orthoclad

(4,451 posts)
25. All the "theories" are distractions,
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:33 PM
Sunday

like T's clown show, to obscure the actual conspiracy and power play.

Chin music

(24,000 posts)
3. We are talking about conspiracies, and bc we do, it doesn't make us 'theorists'....
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 09:01 AM
Saturday

Means we are having too think about what they've done to us.
How many of these things are too bizarre to imagine 15 years ago?
I think a lot of people vastly underestimate the power of russian counter-intel in his country and how deep they've burrowed.
trmp himself. And on a lesser note people like the FBI's counter-intel guy mcgonigle in the New York District, He was finally caught(?)/rolled up, a couple years ago. His point man was Oleg Deripaska. Just imagine how many there are in other areas. Money and power is why the gop get into 'public service'.Bribes are a fast track to that. I'm sure there's a whole system involved w it, and I'm further sure that these huge conventions of Congress out n the sticks sometimes, is one place they figure it all out and 'enroll' them in the program. 'You can't rape the willing' is a quote I heard before. Applies to them imo.
The overall scheme is to make us look like a shitty country and convert the common American to contribute to the attack out of ignorance and a false sense of patriotism.And literally entertain insurrection and throwing out elections.
Accountability in some areas, seems to have vanished, and surprisingly (or not), it's in some key places o topple this great nation from inside.
10 years of this routine has really poisoned a third of America imho.
But am I talking crazy 'conspiracy theories'? More likely than not, there's a lot of truth to it. And to not think about it, makes us a bigger victim bc...'who would've ever thought?' Until it was too late.

Think. Again.

(16,635 posts)
12. I believe that was why the whole "Conspiracy Theory" concept was developed...
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 12:41 PM
Saturday

...to pre-empt discussion of possible scenarios by putting any suspicions that varied from the official position into a "crazy" basket.

BattleRow

(897 posts)
18. THEY are the conspirators..but
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 05:13 PM
Saturday

have escaped being called conspirators,because they've successfully deflected the use of the word except when castigating others.

Response to Think. Again. (Reply #12)

orthoclad

(4,451 posts)
27. "Purloined Letter", by Poe
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:41 PM
Sunday

The evidence hides in the open.

The plutocracy has its hands in our pockets every. single. day., while they distract us with colorful noise.
Meanwhile:

?

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/58533

GiqueCee

(1,228 posts)
7. As that shitweasel...
Sat Oct 12, 2024, 10:13 AM
Saturday

... Newt Gingrich reportedly said when questioned about his behavior, "Just do as I say, not as I do."

That's conservatism in a nutshell.

jfz9580m

(14,810 posts)
19. Projection
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:55 AM
Sunday

I am in a good mood these days and find these creeps funny not threatening. I mean their rhetoric is dark etc..don’t get me wrong.

But I do think they have overshot comically. These guys are a joke :

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/09/23/trump-imaginary-world/

In Donald Trump’s imaginary world, Americans can’t venture out to buy a loaf of bread without getting shot, mugged or raped. Immigrants in a small Ohio town eat their neighbors’ cats and dogs. World War III and economic collapse are just around the corner. And kids head off to school only to return at day’s end having undergone gender confirming surgery.


They are totally weird and batshit crazy . Charlie Chaplin would have had so much material for The Great Dictator 2024 were he alive like the late, great Hannibal Lector .

These guys are insane..

True Dough

(19,654 posts)
20. It is so ludicrous that it's funny, at times
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:04 AM
Sunday

Also head-scratching -- as in, how can a sentient human be naive enough to fall for the B.S.? But then some of them may see through the lies but they play along because they're so anti-immigrant and racist that they'll swallow everything else.

But some of them are threatening. J6 proved that. And there's going to be a replay of that after Trump loses again in November. The question is whether the violence loses steam or is more widespread this time. That is the troubling aspect.

jfz9580m

(14,810 posts)
21. Oh yeah
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:38 AM
Sunday

It is definitely scary sometimes. But it is also absurd beyond all sense and reason.

Good god, In 2004 Bush seemed clownish and ott and he was. However, 20 years on, the GOP has gone so far around the bend in response to the endemic ecological and economic crises they fostered via war & deregulation that the Bushies looks relatively sane.

orthoclad

(4,451 posts)
24. It's a deliberate tactic
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:31 PM
Sunday

used as part of the Reich Wing's overall strategy.
Not crazy. Deliberate.

We're up against the manipulators who killed hundreds of thousands of their followers during covid with all the antivax antimask nonsense, just to have a wedge issue. They are THAT cold-blooded.

Not crazy. Evil.

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