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senseandsensibility

(20,014 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 02:33 PM Sunday

Love or hate James Carville, I think

he had a point this morning on Jen Psaki's show. He did criticize Harris/Walz for not hitting DonOld hard enough on his blatant desire to be an effing dictator. We (myself included) can be thin skinned about criticism of Dems, especially considering the sanewashing of R's, but in this case I think he was spot on.

He did, however, reserve his most contemptuous remarks for the media, specifically the elite media. He imitated them whining about lack of access to Kamala, or lack of "specifics" when our entire form of government and the constitution are at risk. He also said that every day cheato is out there saying he is going to use the military against American citizens while the media yawns.

He is the first person who has put into words what's been keeping me up at night. He thinks the reason that DonOld is telegraphing these outrageous goals is so that if he "wins" he can say the people voted for this. So the corporate media better wake up and help voters see what is really at stake in this election.

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Love or hate James Carville, I think (Original Post) senseandsensibility Sunday OP
You and I are ants to corporate media. They only care about money. bucolic_frolic Sunday #1
That's why I wonder why the media is so infatuated with the orange turd kimbutgar Sunday #2
I wouldn't be surprised if they started looking here, too. ALL THE MORE REASON TO VOTE FOR KAMALA!!!!! calimary Sunday #6
Absolutely agree about strategy of BattleRow Sunday #3
But we're special Metaphorical Sunday #4
Plus, presidents have immunity now. subterranean Sunday #17
It's almost as if the corporate media was a corporation interested in media consumption or something. progressoid Sunday #5
Open collusion Quanto Magnus Sunday #7
Thats for sure Figarosmom Sunday #8
Enjoy it while you can. Paladin Sunday #9
MSM is dumber than rocks... Joinfortmill Sunday #10
The MSM is anything but dumb DFW Sunday #14
Respectfully disagree. Joinfortmill Sunday #15
I will admit BaronChocula Sunday #11
His emails are rude. broiles Sunday #12
+1. The traitor is literally promising a brutal, ruthless military dictatorship dalton99a Sunday #13
But who cares, right? senseandsensibility Sunday #16

bucolic_frolic

(46,295 posts)
1. You and I are ants to corporate media. They only care about money.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 02:43 PM
Sunday

And money derives from concentrated power. They are all in.

kimbutgar

(22,868 posts)
2. That's why I wonder why the media is so infatuated with the orange turd
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 02:46 PM
Sunday

If he gets elected he will do his purge of ALL the news media personalities and reporters and kill or jail them.

The prison industrial complex will multiply like crazy when he starts imprisoning his perceived enemies.

After watching the documentary yesterday Night and Fog on TCM about concentration camps I am becoming more scared as we get closer to the election.

I’m dead meat because I have posted a ton of negative stuff about him on Facebook. And probably on an enemies list somewhere.

calimary

(83,770 posts)
6. I wouldn't be surprised if they started looking here, too. ALL THE MORE REASON TO VOTE FOR KAMALA!!!!!
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:45 PM
Sunday

BattleRow

(897 posts)
3. Absolutely agree about strategy of
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:37 PM
Sunday

not hitting back hard enough.
In fact,I posted as much a while back.

Carville had the nickname ole snakehead.

Well, I'd like to see some fangs out before the day of reckoning.

If you're not ruthless,your toothless.
(Heard that on Young Sheldon,recently.)

Metaphorical

(2,124 posts)
4. But we're special
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:38 PM
Sunday

I think the news media is wearing some very serious blinkers, because they expect that a second Trump term will be like the first. It won't.

One of the things that I think Trump has learned is that he doesn't have time to waste, which is why, despite having full control of the House and the Senate at the start of his first term, he was particularly ineffective. He was also trying to at least pretend to be president, even if he failed spectacularly at it.

What he has learned since then is that his political opponents have teeth and are not afraid to use them. Keeping out of jail is no longer the objective - he knows that in four years, he will be in exactly the same position he's in today even if he manages to pardon himself.

My expectation is that he goes full dictator. He has a list of political opponents as well as people currently serving time (Steve Bannon for instance) and they will be out free within a week of his regaining the office. He will use his revitalized forces to begin a campaign of bombings against news media, always deniable but enough so that the message becomes clear - say nothing but the sweetest words about Hair Fuhrer, or your studios are next. We'll have one crisis after another, each of which is intended to cow or eliminate the competition outright. He will purge the military, run a terror campaign against judges, then find one reason or another to arrest anyone for the crime of being liberal. University faculty will undergo "ideology reviews", and those that have even vaguely leftish leanings will be terminated, regardless of tenure. I'm guessing that controls will be placed on the Internet, and that he will push for laws that will make it illegal for women to vote or hold political office. He will also push (with some success) to create a blanket discretionary fund under his and only his control, as a prelude to taking full control of the government taxation system.

He will go overboard, of course - Trump has no filters, and will eventually overreach before there will be an assassination attempt that doesn't miss, but until then he will do an incredible amount of damage.

subterranean

(3,526 posts)
17. Plus, presidents have immunity now.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:43 PM
Sunday

He already considered himself above the law, but now that the Supreme Court has made that official, there will be nothing to restrain his worst instincts.

progressoid

(50,552 posts)
5. It's almost as if the corporate media was a corporation interested in media consumption or something.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:42 PM
Sunday

It stopped being journalism a long times ago.

James Carville is part of the problem. IMHO.

Figarosmom

(1,719 posts)
8. Thats for sure
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:39 PM
Sunday

They give people the idea that Trump is kidding and the Dems are hyperventilating over nothing. The fact that most of his officials from his first term think he's not kidding should be a clue. The fact that Darth - Dick Chaney himself is out there should be a clue.

Paladin

(28,684 posts)
9. Enjoy it while you can.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:43 PM
Sunday

Carville will probably be back to non-stop shitting on Harris/Walz, no later than tomorrow morning.

With "friends" like him...

Joinfortmill

(16,086 posts)
10. MSM is dumber than rocks...
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:46 PM
Sunday

if they think they will escape Trump's brutishness if he wins, they're wrong. They won't. I hate them. With few exceptions, they have lost me forever. And I don't think I am alone.

DFW

(56,242 posts)
14. The MSM is anything but dumb
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:12 PM
Sunday

They hi9re very smart analysts to try to "read the room" as accurately as they can, and try to tailor their programming to conform to their audience. If their audience is dumb, and their advertisers do well tailoring their ads to the dumb, then they do well, making money for themselves and their advertisers.

It is the (unfortunately) very successful) right wing media who is responsible for the dumbing down of the American public, along with Republican state governments, school boards and (anti-)education secretaries (like Trump's DeVos) who oversee the dumbing down of our children, or, at least, try to. Republicans can't make us all stupid, but they CAN try to make us all ignorant.

BaronChocula

(2,386 posts)
11. I will admit
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:58 PM
Sunday

That Carville has said some things that pissed me off, but he turned out to be right. But he's also pissed me off WITHOUT being right.

broiles

(1,399 posts)
12. His emails are rude.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:04 PM
Sunday

He starts out with "Listen up Broiles" My initial response is "fuck off". I now just hit delete.

dalton99a

(83,655 posts)
13. +1. The traitor is literally promising a brutal, ruthless military dictatorship
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:07 PM
Sunday

with himself as the absolute supreme ruler


senseandsensibility

(20,014 posts)
16. But who cares, right?
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:23 PM
Sunday

It doesn't deserve any coverage because Kamala has hurt their fee-fees by not giving them all interviews. That's how childish they seem.

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