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calimary

(83,770 posts)
1. You'll be making history along with her.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:07 PM
Sunday

You’ll be establishing a whole new paradigm for America. For American couples, for American men, and for America in general.

brush

(56,830 posts)
2. Isn't VP Harris' birthday on the 20th of Oct? They were born a week apart in the same year?
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:43 PM
Sunday

Both Libras.

Libra Zodiac Sign

Intelligent, kind, and always willing to put others before themselves, Libras value harmony in all forms. Ruled by Venus, the planet of beauty, Libra adores a life that looks good. As the master of compromise and diplomacy, Libra is adept at seeing all points of view, and excels at crafting compromises and effecting mediation between others. This sign has a rich inner life yet loves other people, and they're always happiest with a large group of friends, family, and coworkers on whom they can count.

peppertree

(22,766 posts)
3. And her sign is just for starters!
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:36 PM
Sunday

Ms. Harris has a interesting, and rather complex, natal chart (basically a simplified diagram of the heavens, at the place and time you were born).

She has the Moon in Aries (opposing her Sun, sad to say - though she handles it very well), and Gemini rising (i.e. the eastern horizon).

A woman of action - and a sharp, inquisitive mind.

But more importantly, her North Node is conjunct (at or near the same angle as) her ascendant. A life of purpose!

Her soul came here to leave a lasting legacy.

That conjunction, moreover, is in a grand trine (i.e. forming a triangle) with her Sun and Saturn. Her personality (Sun) and authoritative side (Saturn) work in her favor, to help her fulfill her destiny.

Her Sun is, likewise, at one of the most fortunate angles in the Zodiac: 27° Libra - ruled by the star Arcturus (which promotes honor, popularity and accomplishment).

Arcturus is probably second only to Fumalhut (the blessed royal star - which governs the time around February 20th) in its auspiciousness.

And Fumalhut is conjunct her Midheaven! (the Midheaven rules career and public reputation). It's also conjunct her Saturn (limits and obstacles - but also authority).

She was born to administer - and dare I say, to govern.

A Trine (120° - an auspicious angle) with her Sun and Mercury, likewise, give her a personality and speaking style that promotes her being in charge. Conversely, a Square (90° - a conflictive angle) with Jupiter warns against taking on too much, or promising too much.

Squares involving dour Saturn, bounteous Jupiter, assertive Mars, and dreamy Neptune, in turn, warn against precipitous action - or excessive idealism and/or trust. But that may have been an issue in her youth - rather than now (since she's lived though two Saturn returns already - each one, which come at around age 30, making you more realistic).

And with Saturn opposing her Mars, the potential for MAGAt violence will be an issue throughout her (knock wood) presidency.

She knows.

Anyhow, I hope you enjoyed that astrological recap.

And Cheeto's, you might ask? A mess of misjudgment, mistrust, and megalomania - but then, that's hardly news.

brush

(56,830 posts)
7. Thank you, Peppertree. You're obviously a professional at this.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:47 PM
Sunday

Pls share your prediction for Nov. 5.

peppertree

(22,766 posts)
11. You're welcome, brush - and that's very nice of you
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 08:58 PM
Sunday

Intermediate at best - believe me.

Now - as for Nov. 5th (and there so many takes on this, as you can imagine):

First- let's look at the date itself:

A delightful Mercury (communication)/Neptune (ideals)/Mars (action) grand trine will help the undecided make the right choice that day.

Grand trines (which look like a triangle) are the most auspicious astrological combinations - promoting constructive action and talent.

With the Moon in Capricorn all day, moreover, voters (those who do vote on Election Day) will tend to make the cautious, prudent choice - and Cheeto's (of course) anything but!

On the other hand - with Moon square (90° from) Neptune, the chance of some 11th-hour fake news swaying voters is high. And with lazy Venus and careless Jupiter squaring foggy Neptune too - apathy and human error might add to all the confusion.

Plus - we'll have mischievous Uranus opposing newsy Mercury. What a mess!

All the more so, with Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune all in delay-prone retrograde that day.

If that weren't enough - intense Pluto will oppose rash Mars. Already-high chances of election night violence will increase, I'm sad to say (try to stock up on groceries beforehand).

In short - we're unlikely to know who, exactly, the winner is that night - but then, no one who keeps up with the news, and GOP attempts to muddy the waters, should be surprised at that prospect.

So - what about the candidates themselves?

Harris:

First, for the big one: Generous Jupiter will be in an strongly auspicious grand trine (triangle) to her natal Midheaven (which rules over career), Sun (self), Mercury (press), Ascendant (presence), and North Node (destiny)!

Naughty Uranus, on the other hand, will be squaring (90° from) her Midheaven: A sudden - but not insurmountable - setback, perhaps.

But then, Uranus will also be conjunct (at or near the same angle as) her natal Jupiter. An equally sudden turn of events in her favor!

Say - for instance - someone tries to cheat her. Their cover might be blown - and that would help her all the more.

Trump:

Much has been made by Republicans, and foreign right-wingers, that auspicious Jupiter is very-well positioned for Trump this October/November: it's conjunct his natal Jupiter, and in trine to his natal Sun, Uranus and North Node.

Everything seems to click for him right now.

But with intense Pluto and painful Chiron opposing his natal Saturn (the 'Dr. No' of the planets); with the current Saturn squaring his natal Uranus (a very destructive square); and talkative Mercury opposing both his natal Midheaven and Uranus (another flipper talks?) - not so fast, Donald!

Schemes that fall apart - in an ugly way - seem to await him if he pushes too hard (and we both know he will!).

So that's what I noticed, just in a nutshell. Time will tell.

Cha

(303,936 posts)
9. TY for this, pepperree! This is your Astrological analysis?
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 08:38 PM
Sunday

If so could you tell us where her Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, and Saturn are/?

This is different than a chart I read about her last month.

Her moon is in Aires? Gov Tim Walz is Aires.. April 6, 1964

peppertree

(22,766 posts)
13. You're very welcome, Cha. I went into it further here:
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:32 PM
Sunday
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219562819#post11

As far as Harris, her Mercury is at 1° Scorpio - conjunct her Sun at 27° Libra. Both are very auspicious placements - especially her Sun, ruled as it is by the star Arcturus (promoting accomplishment and popularity as it does).

Mercury ruled by the star Princeps gives her that incisive mind - fond of research and discovery.

Moreover, her Sun and Mercury are trine Saturn, her Midheaven and North Node. That soul is here on a serious and important mission - and deep down, she's "known" it for many years.

Her Venus at 18° Virgo, in a tight stellium with Uranus and Pluto - trine Jupiter too! She wants to help others, knows how to do so, and her good deeds are rewarded.

Now - her Saturn at 28° Aquarius promotes problems with Big Media (but then, what else is new for a Democrat!). But that Midheaven at 2° Pisces!

That's the angle of Fumalhut - the blessed royal star. Many prominent people who've risen from obscurity, have a prominent Fumalhut.

And they often have that same pattern: the initial rise to fame; the downfall or, at least, standstill; and the redemption thanks in part to past good deeds.

Finally, that North Node conjunct Ascendant at 24° Gemini (ruled by a potent, assertive star - Hecka). This is a very karmically important lifetime for our friend Ms. Harris; she's here to make a difference, and (God willing) she likely will.

Finally, I should note that Trump's Sun? It's at ...wait for it...24° Gemini. They were very much meant to face off.

Hoped you liked the overview, Cha, and thank you for the encouragement.

With my natal Moon/Saturn opposition, it's always appreciated.

Cha

(303,936 posts)
15. Mahalo for this, peppertree.. I really appreciate it! You make
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:32 PM
Sunday

it easier to understand what is going on Astrologically.

Hoping that trump's "Destructive Square" Does the Ultimate Destruction to him on Election night.

"Jupiter in 24° 0' Taurus" .. is Jupiter in VP Harris' 12th House?

https://astro-charts.com/persons/chart/kamala-harris/

TY for this... I was going to look up where the Moon is gong to be on Election Day..

With the Moon in Capricorn all day, moreover, voters (those who do vote on Election Day) will tend to make the cautious, prudent choice - and Cheeto's (of course) anything but

At least Mercury isn't Retrograde now!



peppertree

(22,766 posts)
16. Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:43 PM
Sunday

And yes - Harris' Jupiter is at 24° Taurus (indeed: in the 12th house - which as you know gives her a strong guardian angel; but not necessarily worldly "luck" ).

But It'll be conjunct the election day Uranus, and trine Pluto - with no oppositions or squares.

Very auspicious for her - and she'll need it, since Jupiter will be giving Cheeto a big hand as well sadly.

Finally, her Moon at 27° Aries makes her a woman of action (and in the 11th house - very public-oriented). It'll be trine the election day Venus - but squaring the election day Pluto and Mars.

Her guardian angels - and the Secret Service - will have to be vigilant that night.

Mahalo!

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