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onandup

(701 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:10 PM Sunday

Tensions rise between Harris and Biden teams

The relationship between Kamala Harris’ team and Joe Biden’s White House has been increasingly fraught in the final weeks before Election Day, 10 people familiar with the situation tell Axios. Biden’s team wants Harris to win the election, but many senior Biden aides remain wounded by the president being pushed out of his re-election bid and are still adjusting to being in a supporting role on the campaign trail.

[…]

Some on the Harris team say that top White House aides aren’t sufficiently coordinating Biden’s messaging and schedule to align with what’s best for the vice president’s campaign.


https://www.axios.com/2024/10/13/kamala-harris-biden-campaign-tension?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial

With all due respect, anyone on Team Biden worrying about their feelings needs to grow up. Joe endorsed Kamala immediately and is ready to do anything to get her elected, imo. This election is just too damn important.
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Tensions rise between Harris and Biden teams (Original Post) onandup Sunday OP
It's admirable that they're loyal Frasier Balzov Sunday #1
it's a bullshit story. Think. Again. Sunday #29
Absolutely johnnyfins Sunday #50
Without a doubt. JohnSJ Sunday #55
Agreed INdemo Sunday #59
Not really campaigns are weird that way. LeftInTX Sunday #65
Yeah no. This isn't a standard campaign cycle. Think. Again. Sunday #67
No seriously. It isn't about the candidate. It's about the people that work for them. LeftInTX Sunday #68
They need to f*cking get over themselves and think of the country! NotHardly Sunday #32
I strongly doubt any of this is real, please don't go hating on people who don't deserve it. Think. Again. Sunday #54
Axios Metaphorical Sunday #2
I agree. Axios founder Mike Allen doesn't radiate good vibes as a journalist. Dock_Yard Sunday #44
More bullshit from Axios. Don't buy it. Ocelot II Sunday #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Sunday #11
Sounds like the usual nonsense reporting newdeal2 Sunday #4
Yeah, right. I don't believe this for one bit. Most of the news has been harping against the overwhelming support that SWBTATTReg Sunday #5
"Strip away their publishing rights"? Sounds a bit Trumpish to me. Ocelot II Sunday #10
It's tRUMP campaign garbage, and not news. It constantly tRUMP, tRUMP, tRUMP. There used to be a equal SWBTATTReg Sunday #45
Trump campaign garbage is protected by the First Amendment, like it or not. Ocelot II Sunday #62
I don't pay much attention to right leaning Alliepoo Sunday #6
Right, anyone on Team Biden worrying about their feelings needs to grow up. elleng Sunday #7
What indication have you seen that "Team Biden" displacedvermoter Sunday #14
None, just from this article. elleng Sunday #18
So there really is no need to be calling on anyone to grow up save, perhaps the author of the piece displacedvermoter Sunday #21
If Could Unrec A Post... ProfessorGAC Sunday #27
So says AXIOS... Please keep the SOURCE in mind. hlthe2b Sunday #8
Look at all of those words Cirsium Sunday #9
I don't believe this for a minute mcar Sunday #12
Of course, it should be based on what's best for Harris' campaign iemanja Sunday #13
Geez, sounds like Democrats are screwed! -misanthroptimist Sunday #15
Axios.. another bogus story in their attempt to stay relevant..and failing... agingdem Sunday #16
Ah, June 27th poster. what a shock NoRethugFriends Sunday #17
Axios is largely owned by Cox Enterprises Kid Berwyn Sunday #19
dems in disarry WhiteTara Sunday #20
BINGO! AwakeAtLast Sunday #24
Time to say adios,and axe Axios if BattleRow Sunday #22
Oh bull puckey. deminks Sunday #23
What perfectly exquisite timing for this exceedingly important issue DFW Sunday #25
Translation: Someone was stuck in traffic and couldn't sign Doug Emhoff's Birthday Card. usonian Sunday #26
Disarray!!! Think. Again. Sunday #28
Dems in Disarray absurdity Lulu KC Sunday #30
Yawn 🥱 live love laugh Sunday #31
..... Blue Owl Sunday #33
Talk about flooding the zone with disinformation Keepthesoulalive Sunday #34
Biden endorsed Harris. That's it. This is another article trying to show Democrats in disarray AZLD4Candidate Sunday #35
Biden doesn't control his campaign staff. LeftInTX Sunday #66
"Reality check: Tensions between the Biden and Harris teams were likely inevitable." Lulu KC Sunday #36
These people need to get Figarosmom Sunday #37
I'm not buying this. Sorry, but given what we've seen with the lightning speed of Harris getting her PatrickforB Sunday #38
Bullshit. Axios can go fuck itself with a firehose. notroot Sunday #39
Baloney! Or as Joe would say "Malarkey!" KPN Sunday #40
More rumor and inuendo being pushed along by right wingers aimed at discouraging Democrats. lees1975 Sunday #41
When is some real, genuine high quality journalism going to show up and hammer on all of Trump's crimes, extremism, lees1975 Sunday #43
Not Necessary Abundance77 Sunday #42
I don't believe it dlk Sunday #46
... littlemissmartypants Sunday #47
This has a 0% chance of being true. Kingofalldems Sunday #48
Ignore the noise relayerbob Sunday #49
DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!! ARGHHH!! spudspud Sunday #51
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Sunday #52
This is garbage. RandySF Sunday #53
Codswallop Botany Sunday #56
Tempest in a teapot. Seriously? Those Biden loyalist better wake up. brush Sunday #57
I call it BS Miami Blue Sunday #58
Do I have to go over this again? Axios is owned by Cox Enterprises TBF Sunday #60
I've never tried to censor a post Easterncedar Sunday #61
Yeah not a good try there. Kingofalldems Sunday #63
Isn't AXIOS a Mark Halperin outfit? ThePartyThatListens Sunday #64
June 27 was a popular day! obamanut2012 Sunday #69

LeftInTX

(29,529 posts)
65. Not really campaigns are weird that way.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:45 PM
Sunday

Campaign teams get caught up in "loyalty" and "cliques". It's weird.

LeftInTX

(29,529 posts)
68. No seriously. It isn't about the candidate. It's about the people that work for them.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:59 PM
Sunday

They can be weird and egotistical. They often are thinking of their next gig too. Many will go on to other things in the midterms and they have their loyalties and little teams.

Metaphorical

(2,124 posts)
2. Axios
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:13 PM
Sunday

Take this with a shakerful of salt, given the source (Axios definitely tilts right). It falls into the 'Harris campaign in disarray" category, especially as a significant number of Biden's current staff is out stumping for Harris at this point.

Dock_Yard

(107 posts)
44. I agree. Axios founder Mike Allen doesn't radiate good vibes as a journalist.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:28 PM
Sunday

Just my opinion. Their org and choices of stories come off as strange. Monetization oriented?

Ocelot II

(119,697 posts)
3. More bullshit from Axios. Don't buy it.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:14 PM
Sunday

Even if there were some minor disputes, even Axios, with its stupid bullet points, admits at the very end of the article and contrary to its own headline,

"Despite the sore feelings among some Biden aides, much of the president's staff is actively rooting for and trying to work toward a Harris victory.

There is frustration about coordination among senior staffers on both sides, but much of the mid-level staff is working well together, people familiar with the dynamic told Axios.

The White House denied there's tension among senior staffers."

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #3)

newdeal2

(714 posts)
4. Sounds like the usual nonsense reporting
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:14 PM
Sunday

They are on the same team and have the same goal. I’m sure reporters can find a few people who have sour grapes to make this seem like a big deal.

SWBTATTReg

(23,891 posts)
5. Yeah, right. I don't believe this for one bit. Most of the news has been harping against the overwhelming support that
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:16 PM
Sunday

Kamala has and are trying desperately trying to stifle it.

F**k them and the high horse they rode in on. When all of this is said and done, we all need to start going after these traitorous news outlets that harped on tRUMP nonstop, free campaign ads out the wazoo, non-stop, and strip away their publishing rights, as they didn't give equal space/equal reporting (if anything, just to be fair and unbiased, and they are not being that way).

Ocelot II

(119,697 posts)
10. "Strip away their publishing rights"? Sounds a bit Trumpish to me.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:28 PM
Sunday

Trump is threatening to revoke the broadcast licenses of networks whose reporting he dislikes, in blatant disregard of the First Amendment. Let's not be even suggesting anything like that.

SWBTATTReg

(23,891 posts)
45. It's tRUMP campaign garbage, and not news. It constantly tRUMP, tRUMP, tRUMP. There used to be a equal
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:32 PM
Sunday

thing going on, they give 10 minutes to tRUMP, then 10 minutes to Kamala. It's not like that anymore.

Ocelot II

(119,697 posts)
62. Trump campaign garbage is protected by the First Amendment, like it or not.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:40 PM
Sunday

And the fairness doctrine was repealed in 1987.

Alliepoo

(2,438 posts)
6. I don't pay much attention to right leaning
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:18 PM
Sunday

Axios. I get their daily news in my email and they def lean way right. Sometimes they appear to be balanced but it’s mostly on local reporting, not national.

displacedvermoter

(2,729 posts)
14. What indication have you seen that "Team Biden"
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:31 PM
Sunday

has been anything but supportive of the Harris/Walz ticket, besides this article?

ProfessorGAC

(69,194 posts)
27. If Could Unrec A Post...
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:41 PM
Sunday

.. this would be a post where said capability would come to play.
I don't think DUers come here to be the target of a priggish lecture.

Cirsium

(483 posts)
9. Look at all of those words
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:27 PM
Sunday

That article has a lot of words. It has a lot of bullet points, too. Lots of speculation. Lots of nothing.

Way, way down in the article we find this:

"White House spokesperson Andrew Bates told Axios: 'President Biden endorsed Vice President Harris immediately after leaving the race, rejecting other approaches that would divide the party, and has attested to her leadership abilities and continually made clear his support for her.'"

In other words, the entire theme of the article is BS, the usual "Democrats in disarray" idiocy.

iemanja

(54,368 posts)
13. Of course, it should be based on what's best for Harris' campaign
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:31 PM
Sunday

She needs to win. As far as Biden being pushed out, that ship has sailed.

-misanthroptimist

(1,108 posts)
15. Geez, sounds like Democrats are screwed!
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:32 PM
Sunday

Or maybe they're not and MSM is just trying to keep people watching and clicking their dubious offerings.

agingdem

(8,497 posts)
16. Axios.. another bogus story in their attempt to stay relevant..and failing...
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:33 PM
Sunday

Axios should stick to predicting fashion trends...they suck at politics..

WhiteTara

(30,095 posts)
20. dems in disarry
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 03:42 PM
Sunday

Doom. Oh, look! Trump stranded a bunch of old people in the desert! Maskarovka at work.

DFW

(56,242 posts)
25. What perfectly exquisite timing for this exceedingly important issue
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:38 PM
Sunday

Like Roger Ailes said when he first became boss at Fox "News," and was asked if accuracy in reporting would be a top priority:

"We have an agenda."

Is anyone going to tell me that any other answer is credible when I ask WTF is this article or its posting about?

usonian

(12,957 posts)
26. Translation: Someone was stuck in traffic and couldn't sign Doug Emhoff's Birthday Card.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:40 PM
Sunday

DEMS IN DISARRAY!

Keepthesoulalive

(403 posts)
34. Talk about flooding the zone with disinformation
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:53 PM
Sunday

Kamala is not having enough rallies, black men are voting for asshole, now Biden and Harris teams are fighting and the polls. We have an election to win not have a constant barrage of nonsense that is seeking to divide us.

AZLD4Candidate

(6,177 posts)
35. Biden endorsed Harris. That's it. This is another article trying to show Democrats in disarray
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 04:55 PM
Sunday

This is a hit piece by Axios! Shame on them!

There's more of a civil war in the Republican Party between MAGAts and non MAGAts. But that would make Orange Hitler look bad.

LeftInTX

(29,529 posts)
66. Biden doesn't control his campaign staff.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 09:47 PM
Sunday

Campaign teams are their own little universe. They can be petty and cliquey.

Many times the candidate you work for is because "your friends work for them".

Lulu KC

(3,314 posts)
36. "Reality check: Tensions between the Biden and Harris teams were likely inevitable."
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:00 PM
Sunday


Like TENSION is so weird!?? Ooooh, there's TENSION! So scary!

How could there not be tension? I would like to see any group of humans in a situation with this much going on at one time who would not feel and display "tension."

It will come out okay in the end between nearly all of these people, and I can't think of any other two leaders who would do a better job at conveying a tone of "we're all on the same team."



Figarosmom

(1,719 posts)
37. These people need to get
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:14 PM
Sunday

With the program as the saying goes. We don't need sabotage from our own side. ( again)And of course rumor mongers Axios has to put it out there for trumps team to exploit. The Hill does the same kind of reporting. They both are inside Edition DC. Just tabloids.

PatrickforB

(15,025 posts)
38. I'm not buying this. Sorry, but given what we've seen with the lightning speed of Harris getting her
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:17 PM
Sunday

campaign up and running - that HAD to have plenty of direct help from Joe Biden. It just did. I've never seen the Dems move this fast or this efficiently.

Remember that our media is ALL ABOUT shareholder PROFITS, with nothing, and I mean nothing in terms of fiduciary responsibility for TRUTH in news reporting. That's how it is.

This is why we have the 25 right-wing polls that just got released - oh, Trump is AHEAD now! Oh, the Harris campaign's honeymoon is OVER (60 minutes). Oh, Trump is now AHEAD in battle ground states!" Oh, young black men aren't gonna vote for Harris, they want Trump...

And so on, and so on, and scooby dooby doo!

A horserace is GOOD for shareholder PROFITS, don't you know.

This is also why shit like Trump's calls to Putin, the blackmail story about the GOP reps and senators honey-trapped into compromising things like the drug-fueled sex party Gaetz took the HS junior to. And Trump's massive deterioration?

Nope. Bad for PROFITS. We gotta have a HORSERACE, folks!

I'll tell you, the billionaires on Wall Street are rubbing their hands in GLEE, because they are cashing in on this campaign like no other in history. Harris has already raised $1 billion. God only knows how many billions will go down the Wall Street media PROFIT rat-hole before November 5.

The whole thing is a huge PROFIT game for billionaire parasites and big Wall Street fund managers, and they are cashing in!

Make no mistake - these orc-like Wall Street greed lizards care NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING for this republic. Not at all. They are in it for the money.

The only thing that is even propping up truth is the MSNBC crew, and they are there at suffrance, only because there is a market for them, and their ratings are good. But those ratings dip? They will be gone. Because again, the fiduciary responsibility of the senior executives at the NYT, NBC, CBS, ABC and FOX is ONLY to generate shareholder PROFITS, nothing more, nothing less.

notroot

(120 posts)
39. Bullshit. Axios can go fuck itself with a firehose.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:17 PM
Sunday

Maybe that'll put out their pants, which are on fire from all the fucking lying.

The MSM only hurts itself with this transparent bullshit.

Best not to spread their lies without the context that they're liars who lie.

lees1975

(5,482 posts)
41. More rumor and inuendo being pushed along by right wingers aimed at discouraging Democrats.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:19 PM
Sunday

Don't believe a word of this tripe.

lees1975

(5,482 posts)
43. When is some real, genuine high quality journalism going to show up and hammer on all of Trump's crimes, extremism,
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:21 PM
Sunday

dementia, mental incapacity and Vance's corruption and incompetence and opportunistic cashing in?

Let's have some real journalists step up to the plate. This is an F minus performance.

Abundance77

(14 posts)
42. Not Necessary
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:20 PM
Sunday

This article serves no purpose. Please leave this out. Infighting is probably not unusual.
We have so much at stake here. Don't give the GOPs something to exploit.

relayerbob

(6,938 posts)
49. Ignore the noise
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:45 PM
Sunday

These people create scandal to sell clicks and you just helped them out by posting a link to their bullshit

spudspud

(528 posts)
51. DEMOCRATS IN DISARRAY!! ARGHHH!!
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 05:54 PM
Sunday

“Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!” Axios's source? No less than 10 people. "Trust me bro."

Response to onandup (Original post)

brush

(56,830 posts)
57. Tempest in a teapot. Seriously? Those Biden loyalist better wake up.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:05 PM
Sunday

What happened is fo the best and is not the VP's fault. They should be proud of Joe's selflessness and the flawless job VP Harris has done.

No time to be grouching and complaining as we need every effort to defeat the orange criminal.

Miami Blue

(156 posts)
58. I call it BS
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:07 PM
Sunday

Just STOP it ✋🏻
Enough already!
This kind of BS is not helping us unite
to deliver a victory in November.

TBF

(33,682 posts)
60. Do I have to go over this again? Axios is owned by Cox Enterprises
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 06:14 PM
Sunday

Cox Family net worth - $41 billion.

It is in their interest to stir the pot. Why are you helping them?

Easterncedar

(3,117 posts)
61. I've never tried to censor a post
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:39 PM
Sunday

But this one seems so clearly to break the rules that I’m tempted.

Please, sensible people, don’t get sucked in by this malicious onsense.

64. Isn't AXIOS a Mark Halperin outfit?
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 08:09 PM
Sunday

He's the MFer that had to be reluctantly dropped by 'Morning Joe' due to his woman molesting ways, or some such thing.

If you believe that outlet then let me interest you in a bridge I have for sale in the borough of Brooklyn.

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