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Baitball Blogger

(47,627 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:05 PM Sunday

What I saw on NBC news about the tightness of the poll.

They're claiming the youth vote was going more conservative, but then they talked to two young white men off the street in Georgia. Not sure where it was, but of course, it matters. There are pockets of Atlanta that have lots of young white males, especially near Tech universities.

I was surprised to see two black men interviewed who were part of Black Republican organization.

And the common factor was the economy. They are snaring these young people because they want to be in control of their own destiny.

Don't know how to turn this around, but I always felt this was going to be an Trump conservatives vs everyone else. So I'm not sure if someone is intentionally stepping on the scales with those polls.

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What I saw on NBC news about the tightness of the poll. (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Sunday OP
Vote...................... Lovie777 Sunday #1
"want to be in control of their own destiny." keithbvadu2 Sunday #2
No, according to him durablend Sunday #3
Those two are in for a rude awakening at some point misanthrope Sunday #7
It is the weekend, they (the Trumpers) always are even or ahead on Saturdays and Sundays. katmondoo Sunday #4
I hope you're right. Baitball Blogger Sunday #5
It is a national poll, and of course the MSM based on this ONE national poll is pushing the theme that JohnSJ Sunday #6
Well said. Baitball Blogger Sunday #8

keithbvadu2

(39,555 posts)
2. "want to be in control of their own destiny."
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:22 PM
Sunday

The two black men should pay attention that Trump considers their proper position to be low level jobs - those taken by immigrants.

katmondoo

(6,490 posts)
4. It is the weekend, they (the Trumpers) always are even or ahead on Saturdays and Sundays.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:35 PM
Sunday

I have seen how the Right Wing gets their way on the weekend. The hosts and their guest's all start the criticism of Kamala, slowly at first then it starts getting worse. Each network does this. Then comes Monday and you see the polls starting to come back up for Kamala.

JohnSJ

(95,448 posts)
6. It is a national poll, and of course the MSM based on this ONE national poll is pushing the theme that
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 07:43 PM
Sunday

Harris is losing.

This is a consorted effort by the MSM to build up trump and bring down Harris enthusiasm.

One national poll of registered voters, and this is the "big political news story"? Give me a fucking break.

They have been bashing Biden's age since he won in 2020, and the last year or two have been pushing his cognitive abilities. As for trump's ramblings, incoherence, and outright lies, compared to what they did to Biden, it is almost zero.

Since Harris has entered the race the MSM has been quite critical of Harris. Not enough interviews. She does interviews, they criticize, not enough interviews with the RIGHT people.

People don't know where Harris stands on the issues. She presents her economic plan, and a whole host of other proposals, and they still criticize that they don't know where she stands.

Are the young people, African Americans, Latinos, women, etc. really that unaware of what trump will do to their future?

"The poll finds Harris with her biggest advantages over Trump among Black voters (84%-11%), younger voters ages 18 to 34 (57%-37%) and white voters with college degrees (55%-41%)."

I don't think so.

These same pollsters are admitting that they are employing a range of methodologies to ensure that they are not underestimating Donald Trump amid survey after survey that shows a dead heat in various swing states.

"But the numbers are being viewed with skepticism in some quarters given how pollsters missed how strong Trump’s support was in the 2016 and 2020 races. For Democrats, the close numbers have them hitting the panic button, fearing they need Harris to be ahead by a few points to feel safe."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/pollsters-trying-trump-harris-race-210000364.html

They always seem to include the 2016 race in how they missed trump's "strong support", but completely ignore that 11 days before the general election comey sent a letter to the republicans in congress saying they were examining another laptop, followed by the MSM LYING that the "email invested was reopened", and parading every right wing pundit across their outlets propagating that LIE for the next 7 days. and even when comey came out late friday, the weekend before the general election, saying there was no additional information on that laptop, the MSM barely mentioned it.

Hillary was leading before comey by are 5 points, and after comey it was even. I don't know why the MSM keeps forgetting the comey event that absolutely changed the 2016 election. I know why though, because the MSM was directly involved in perpetuating the LIE that the email investigation was reopened, and they know it.

I also would like the pollsters to address how they account for people who do not answer calls from numbers they do not recognize, or those who do not want to participate in the polls?

I don't think they can. I think they just ASSUME that those that participate are representative of those that don't answer their calls, and that may not be a good assumption.

First of all, this is ONE poll, a national poll, and she is NOT losing.
















Baitball Blogger

(47,627 posts)
8. Well said.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 08:10 PM
Sunday

They helped undermine the 2016 election and it looks like they're doing it again. I don't even have any confidence that if Trump puts his foot in his mouth in a decisive way, between now and the election, that they will report it honestly.

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