...is that too many people are blind to the dangers ahead of us if the rightwing gets in power.

I believe that was also part of how hitler became so strong.

Europe and many other countries around the world know what fascism tastes like and it's not good.

The mainstream media is disgusting to me, I have no respect for them.

That's what important CNN? a question about years ago, not reporting that she's the best candidate and he's totally unqualified? Fuck CNN and the rest of them.

... and that they are holding onto some ploy, or subterfuge; a ruse they'll release in the final weeks before the election. I hope I'm wrong, and that Kamala and company are ready for it.

which the Republicans have always used just weeks before Presidential Elections. The reason it works is that there is no time to fact check or investigate their hype........

Their "re-thinking" of their failure of the Red Tsunami in the 2022 election was purely aimed at coming up with countless new corrupt means of stealing an election........

To top it all off, even if Harris/Walz win the election, The Republican Speaker of the House has already stated, that unlike Pence, he will not certify the election..........

I do not think Trump is blowing smoke out his ass when he has openly stated..."If I don't win, there will be blood shed".......

They will be sworn in on January 3. Hakeem Jeffries will hold the gavel.

Which no sane person should be!

No polls for me!

"don't know what she stands for" is, "She will keep a democratic republic and follow the Constitution and Trump won't." At this point, nothing else matters.

as well as U.S. Government, ought to be required for a B.A. in Journalism...

Europe and many other countries around the world know what fascism tastes like and it's not good.

There are 2 reasons why Magats want favorable polls;

1. To discourage Democrats from voting
2. To have an excuse for claiming the election was rigged. To give Speaker Johnson a reason to not certify the EC votes.

I didn't realize this was about polls and the MSM or I wouldn't have clicked on it, nothing disparaging, it's just me.

They’re not being misled, they’re complicit.

Will Johnson certify the EC votes?

Liz Cheney doesn't think so.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cheney-doubts-johnson-will-carry-out-constitutional-obligations-to-certify-election/ar-AA1scjgN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=ad001c40538546f89d9bcfae7c1b3a1d&ei=13

Johnson won't be Speaker when the votes are certified. Jeffries will be.

they are targeting 'low-propensity voters' who may not bother to vote, if it appears that he is losing.

Really, I think that's the biggest reason to 'flood the zone' with bad polls.

i HAVE HEARD ALL MY LIFE WHY VOTE IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE FROM PEOPLE.

They need to be removed as the default providers of political information and default organizers of political discussion. They have been entrusted with those privileges/responsibilities and failed.

I couldn't believe it last week when I heard some pundit claim that Trump campaigning in CA was recognizing that everything is national now, so a rally in Cali has the same impact as a day spent touring rural PA.

There have been Zoom calls for Harris, galore. Taylor Swift posts one thing & it reaches millions of women. Tim Walz had a twitch gamer on screen at one of his rallies!

The awfulness is that the msm gives them an honored platform to indoctrinate more into their authoritarian cult. What can be done about the current state of the media? They have become our poison.

said he planned to use the military to go after the enemy within. The follow-up question was. How do you plan to get around the bureaucracy? What the actual fck?

Will be dealt with the first day. He's going to hand out half a million Pink slips to people that he doesn't feel are loyal to him in the government. Read project 2025

...story, and that's why they're slanting their writing.

Wouldn't a blue landslide election of the first female POTUS, a woman of color no less, be the biggest damn story EVER? Why aren't they pulling for that?

Russia
China
North Korea
Hungary
Saudi Arabia
Iran
Cuba

Just to name a few. The media in this country need to get their heads out of their asses and realize that they will be prosecuted and shut down if HE gets re-elected. PROPAGANDA costs more than just money. For the LIES they will be forced to tell will COST American lives.

And how is that working out, As entire industries circle the drain?

Private interests vs. the public good. Media are corporations. Private interest. Citizens voting are the public good. By design.

Business vs. America.

Business opposed the United States from the beginning. The US had terrible problems getting loans from European banks from the get go.

https://www.johnadams.us/p/dutch-loan.html

On April 19, 1782, the United Provinces of Holland, by their States-General, acknowledged the independence of the United States. Mr. Adams then negotiated The Dutch-American Treaty of Amity and Commerce at The Hague as plenipotentiary for the United States, which was signed October 8, 1782. Most of the Treaty’s twenty-nine articles concern trade, shipping, merchant ships, and other commercial ventures like the treatment of prize vessels. Adams also made a successful application for a Dutch loan of three million guilders, Dutch currency, with a 5 percent interest rate per year, for the time period of ten years, to be paid off by 50 f coupons, annually. This was direly needed aid for the exhausted treasury of the United States in Congress Assembled that was quite insolvent as it negotiated a Treaty with Great Britain to end the Revolutions.
The Dutch-American Treaty of Amity and Commerce arrived in the United States in December and it was ratified by Congress on January 3rd, 1783. The ratified treaty marked the beginning of the long friendship between the United States and the Netherlands and remains the foundation of all Dutch-American political intercourse since 1782.

But it meant business, which evolved into corporations. The founding settlers were part of business enterprises, Royal charter granted to British businessmen for the Virginia Company of London.

We didn't even have a national bank. America was founded on civil rights, a legal system. Business operated under the laws, they didn't write the laws, but they do now!

already and that is not helping this nation only the monied. I was reading where most of the wealth has gone up to the rich from the bottom 90%. The wealthy are not helping this nation, greed is not good despite what Reagan said. It is destroying this nation. The wealthy OWE this country that has allowed them to live in ease and I am getting damn tired about their whining about taxes. Most of us can show the wealthy where the food bank is located if the taxes are really costing them

A major "commodity" of the Netherlands at that time were enslaved Africans.

If they told you the truth, that this will be a pretty large blue wave, who would watch? Who would listen? Pay no attention to media or the polls.

Kamala is going to win PA by a pretty good margin, and with that, she wins the election. I believe we’re going to take the house. Keep the senate. Just look at how energized Democrats are.

I don’t understand the obsession with media and polls.

Democrats have this.

538 underestimated Democratic support for Fetterman by 5.5%.
538 underestimated Democratic support for Shapiro by 4.2%

In the 2024 PA Republican Primary Trump received about 20% less votes than he did in the 2020 PA primary.

His goose is cooked.

Why the obsession with always wrong polls and click bait media?

I see so many here so upset to the point of making themselves ill over polls and media. We’re all adults. Just ignore that. Once Kamala is elected, the media will find a way to get you so upset to the point of illness. We all know that. Stop giving them clicks. It’s so easy.

We KNOW what can happen and the fact that the media supports the fascists means they are traitors. They KNOW what they are supporting and pushing for. They are (most of them) idiots.

is deliberately misleading, up to and including outright lies. My assumption is this is coming from executive management and large shareholders.

Except for Rachel and Lawrence, I'm done with them. I don't think I'm alone. We are in a critical moment. Every vote matters, every damn one.

This cannot be blamed on the media. Trump is Trump for all the world to see. No one has any excuse for not knowing what’s really going on, it’s right there. And has been for quite some time. This is on Trump voters and people who aren’t voting at all because they “don’t know what Harris stands for.”

...is the media.

A boycott. They depend on us watching the ads to make money. I gave up on broadcast stuff a long time ago.

Preening in front of mirrors.

Nothing more.

...even after he pissed on his wife's face by making reference to blood running down her neck due to botched plastic surgery.

Jonathan Lemire, NBC's version of "Uncle Tom," is bringing everyone up to speed just like Frank Burns with a pickle up his ass and a smile on his face.

"Women are turning out in great numbers, many many Republicans and independents have stated unequivocally that they’re voting for the Democratic column this time around, prominent Republicans and retired military are saying that there is no way they can support Trump."

This is the reality of things.


We are going to win, but do we have the intestable fortitude to push these motherf*ckers into the ocean after we win the first fight?

Is alleged to have given Kos the boot from msnbc as well. He's pals with network biggies. So it became pseudo left.

Howard Dean predicted we’d pick up seats in both houses. He was right about the Senate but, sadly, not about the House.

I always pay attention when Howard Dean speaks.

They just shifted to attacking they man who got the most votes of any candidate in presidential history, while making a huge deal about how many votes the loser got, and focused on how the newly narrowly controlled Republican House was going to function under the leadership of a man who took 15 tries to get the gavel. Pathetic.

A lot of it involved some serious pretzel-twisting.

And what did they do to address this? Over-sample even MORE 45 voters - basically "trolls under the bridge that are supposedly 'shy'".

They continue to dismiss the impact of Roe (which was one of the reasons why they flubbed 2022) and right now, there are whole demographics who they are intentionally ignoring as "likely voters" because by golly, those groups "didn't vote in the past" so they are assumed to NOT be a "likely voter". And in some cases, they do some black box "weighting" to correct for their intentional skew, which is a bunch of nonsense that makes no sense other than to try to make the numbers "look legit".

I know in 2022, some of what I call "the narrative" was designed to make Democrats spend MORE money on what were SAFE SEATS because the polluted polls that came out right around this same time in 2022, suddenly took 10 - 15 point ranges, down to a couple points, and even to "tied". And this was often AFTER they had actually switched to LV models.

An example was this that I have posted a few times before in other threads -

I believe, 6 HUGE corporations.

Note: Kamala and the Dems will take it all, up and down the ticket. We may lose a few, but control will be by the Dems.

Enough said.

That is all.

Trump has done nothing to build credibility.

Harris has done nothing to lose it.

Am I to understand that 5-8% of Americans reconsidered on Kamala Harris because they believe the Democrats are using a weather machine to attack the south with hurricanes?

Bull Fucking Shit.

Trump has done nothing to build credibility.

Harris has done nothing to lose it.

then it makes my point even stronger. Why didn’t these jerkoffs say beforehand that polls did not show a red tsunami? Because. That’s why.

...was when one channel had their projected range of the number of House seats Republicans were going to gain.

Later in the night, it was clear that the Republicans weren't even going to hit the LOWER number of that range.

The channel was predicting something like 15 to 35 seats gained early in the night and by the end of the night, it was clear that it was going to be well below 15...

I also have to say I do not remember a lot of 'shock' from the media when that 'red wave' did not happen. They just moved on to the next thing that gets them clicks. Which is predominately that orange gibbon and anyone associated with him.

Stop supporting the current media. Stay away from their sites. When you click on a story, you are continuing to support these cretins.

Until the money stops flowing, they will not stop what they are doing.

The MSM and the moneyed elite have so much invested in hanging on to their billions (and getting the rest of our own money for themselves), they'll do anything to sway the election. Election Interference? Why do the Feds not look at the obvious, covert machinations?!

I don't get poll calls anymore, since I switched to my Android only I answer only calls I recognize. But I remember how skewed the last poll was that I took. This was close to a decade ago, and was local campaigns only. The questions were skewed in such a way you either denied them the answer they wanted, or gave it to them. I refused to answer after the first three or four questions and hung up on them, after telling them I was a Test Creator before my retirement, and I know how to craft tests and polls such that they are non-biased. And for them NOT to do so was not only misleading and DISinformation, but also just an excuse for sheer laziness of their people. And anyone so lazy as to create a poll with questions like that would NOT be getting my vote, because they had just insulted my intelligence!

There'll be a Red Mirage. If, once again, trump gets these states to tally the votes of the in-person voters first and mail-in/walk-in ballots last, we'll have that same 2020 Red Mirage hit again, and once again the rallying cry of the Maga will be Fight! Fight! Fight! It was a stolen election.

If they count the mail-in's first, AND the early and in-person Nov 5 voting goes the way I think it will, we'll stomp on him so bad his brown painted face will be a bright red hue. And then there'll be champagne and dancing in the streets!

He is unquestionably the worst American who has ever lived.