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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGov. Walz: Trump just crossed a line that I have to tell you, in my lifetime, I would have never imagined. He said he
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Gov. Walz: Trump just crossed a line that I have to tell you, in my lifetime, I would have never imagined. He said he would deploy the military against Americans who disagree with him. He called it the 'enemy within.' To Donald Trump, anybody who doesn't agree with him is the enemy. We need to put this guy behind us
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Fullduplexxx
(8,365 posts)There is no low to trump . There are no lines .
flying_wahini
(8,043 posts)Justice matters.
(7,614 posts)maximum desperate projection on others who disagree with him because he unconsciously hates actually being the enemy within propped up by Putin since three decades!
onecaliberal
(36,396 posts)Im sure we dont even know the half. Im expecting him to drop the word, knowing those vile fuckers who support him will love it.
Lucky Luciano
(11,502 posts)Sogo
(5,855 posts)Orange Asshole!!!!
Klarkashton
(2,323 posts)WestMichRad
(1,909 posts)Since he wants to be dictator on day one, hed start by declaring the constitution null and void. And this edition of the SCOTUS Six would opine that theres nothing in the constitution that says he cant do that
AZ8theist
(6,578 posts)The Supreme Court becomes irrelevant. He would have no need or use for them anymore.
Sogo
(5,855 posts)They take an oath to defend the Constitution, not a particular person. I believe they have a duty to not obey unlawful orders....
Klarkashton
(2,323 posts)uponit7771
(92,094 posts)The Wizard
(12,953 posts)ignoring unlawful orders is required.
COL Mustard
(7,010 posts)Doesnt contain the phrase about obeying the orders of the President and the officers appointed over me.
pfitz59
(11,015 posts)Enlisted men swear to obey orders.
COL Mustard
(7,010 posts)Officers have a moral obligation to not accept or obey illegal orders. The flip side of that is that they also have a moral obligation to protect their subordinates from receiving an illegal order.
Wuddles440
(1,443 posts)most will honor it, but the potential for chaos perpetrated by his loyalist in the military is a real concern.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)T has always tried to appeal to the ones with guns.
B.See
(3,888 posts)MADuro.
Trump Suggests Hell Flee to Venezuela If Harris Wins the Election - Vanity Fair
Birds of a feather...
evolves
(5,598 posts)He will have immunity. No guardrails anymore.
Justice matters.
(7,614 posts)Well, since never, but that remains to be seen when he will lose.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)He's been criming since the minute he was sworn in - at the very least, the emoluments clause.
If he seizes power, I honestly don't know what will stop him.
Baron2024
(263 posts)If Trump gets back in office and suspends the Constitution he would no longer be the legitimate President. He would be an unlawful Dictator. The President's authority derives from the Constitution. No Constitution, no authority. We are loyal to the country and the Constitution, not any one person. Anyone in the Federal Government or the Military that is not loyal to their oath to defend the Constitution should be legally removed. If Trump takes over and tries to suspend the Constitution, everyone in the Military, the Federal Government, and also just Citizens loyal to the Constitution would be called upon to rise up and Actively Resist the illegal Trump Regime.
Mc Mike
(9,173 posts)bars.
For the rest of his hopefully long and miserable life.
I bet Tim Walz chose his words carefully, knowing what we're all thinking. Keep ears open for him to say "behind us" at a rally, and then listen for what the crowd shouts back.
Mc Mike
(9,173 posts)DENVERPOPS
(10,200 posts)Or when he has said at his rallies: If I don't win, there will be blood shed........
Or countless other things that would normally be considered to be "Inciting A Riot".........
Evolve Dammit
(19,166 posts)DENVERPOPS
(10,200 posts)and hand signs that are referred to as: "Dog Whistles"
Evolve Dammit
(19,166 posts)are funding, promoting and encouraging, cuz they are Nazis too.
Need to be ready. No Malarkey. And no fascist fucks. Period.
birdographer
(2,528 posts)magicarpet
(17,072 posts)They see Fascism as an express highway to achieve zero restraints hyper-capitalism. Self enrichment on hyper drive.
Evolve Dammit
(19,166 posts)Beartracks
(13,620 posts)WTF that's dumb and lazy.
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Evolve Dammit
(19,166 posts)kerry-is-my-prez
(9,421 posts)Evolve Dammit
(19,166 posts)DENVERPOPS
(10,200 posts)his spawn, Jared, and hundreds of others in his administration, advisors and cabinet posts should be in Colorado's SuperMax.
After six months, McVeigh begged the court to give him the death penalty, saying Super Max was far worse than death.
Absolutely no contact with the outside world forever, sitting alone in a soundproof cell, all meals just shoved thru the door, no contact with other prisoners, Guards will not talk to you.......
Evolve Dammit
(19,166 posts)Sorry. A bit of a tangent..
Beartracks
(13,620 posts)Genuinely curious.
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Justice matters.
(7,614 posts)One at a time.
DENVERPOPS
(10,200 posts)Double door on each cell...............absolutely positively no way to get out, or anyone can get in.
unquestionably an escape free prison.......Reserved only for the worst of the worst. Two guards take you out of the cell for a half hour a day, to exercise or shower, then back in......the entire time you are in the complex, you can only see the sky, no view of the mountains or anything on ground level. All meals are shoved thru a slot in the inside cell door.......
The perfect definition of rotting in your cell until you die........
jmowreader
(51,639 posts)The law governing the United States Secret Service says that under the direction of the Secretary of Homeland Security the Secret Service is authorized to protect, not required to protect, various US Government officials.
If President Harris' Secretary of Homeland Security directs that Trump's security is now the responsibility of the Bureau of Prisons, no Secret Service agent has to sit outside his cell watching him soil his nappies and slam back bags of Whole Shabang Chips all day long.
DENVERPOPS
(10,200 posts)having to remove his own diapers, clean himself, and sit with the diaper in his small cell trash can until trash time????????
AND also.....no Adderall or any other drug......no cell phone, no internet, no phone/calls.......
jmowreader
(51,639 posts)However, that's not the kind of prison he's going to. There are special hospital prisons called Federal Medical Centers.
Clouds Passing
(2,872 posts)jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)It's that lack of imagination, of perception that pre-war Germans had for their fatherland.
Klarkashton
(2,323 posts)Softened the brains of 48% of the population.
jaxexpat
(7,794 posts)calimary
(84,681 posts)BattleRow
(1,256 posts)spanone
(137,684 posts)mchill
(1,100 posts)And dont care how illegal or immoral it is.
bucolic_frolic
(47,696 posts)in terms that anyone can understand. And he does it on the fly.
Andy823
(11,533 posts)It is always us against them, and it always will be. His job for putin has always been to dived this country, and then once trump is in office, it will be putin who takes over and controls trump.
He has no plans to work together, no plans to help anyone but himself, and no plans to ever have another election! If we want to save our democracy we have to get out and vote like never before. We can do it and we can make sure that this lying loser will never see the the inside of the Whitehouse, only the inside of prison for tall the things he has done.
Justice matters.
(7,614 posts)The "history" should be "explained" to them, since it seems like they have no clue about it.
JoseBalow
(5,731 posts)Mariana
(15,210 posts)Justice matters.
(7,614 posts)They forgot the "Never Forget" pledge at the end of WWII or they don't know what happened and don't care.
Mariana
(15,210 posts)Looks like the majority of the people over 50 approve his obvious fascism. They forgot the "Never Forget" pledge at the end of WWII or they don't know what happened and don't care.
https://www.pellcenter.org/harris-leads-trump-by-4-nationally-but-with-wide-variation-by-age-ethnicity-and-u-s-regional-cultures/
Justice matters.
(7,614 posts)And they are about to vote for their Social Security benefits to get cut down and handed to billionaires to play with, thanks to hate radio and extreme right-wing propaganda lies, not to mention the end of Obamacare...
They are even worse than the 30% magat group that support the convicted felon's fascism without knowing exactly what fascism is.
augyboston
(275 posts)I am a senior and I am ashamed that people in my age group; whose parents fought against Hitler and the Nazis, support this MAGA crap.
When some Republicans say that the "bad guys won in World War II", I become enraged. The courage, sacrifice and valor of those who stood tall against fascism and saved democracy are to be revered not denounced. These people are just despicable!
My mother and father must be rolling over in their graves.
Mariana
(15,210 posts)orthoclad
(4,728 posts)because the Right wanted a wedge issue over public health.
Let that sink in.
We're talking about people willing to sacrifice hordes of their faithful just to create chaos.
THAT is how low they have already gone.
How much further? How much more damage will they be willing to do?
THIS is who we're dealing with.
BattleRow
(1,256 posts)hurricane than forecast.
Well,Derecho Donald and his comrades will be a Cat 6..
PoindexterOglethorpe
(26,883 posts)orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Did one of them infect one of my several friends who died of covid?
Think about what you're saying here...
birdographer
(2,528 posts)Although I would rather we put him six feet below us.
bluestarone
(18,419 posts)The supreme court listening to this? Someone needs to make god Dam sure they heard it!!
OverBurn
(1,114 posts)What a horrible horrible person he is. This sorry excuse needs to be 6ft under. I talked to several trump cult members at a cookout recently. They live in a different reality, it is unbelievable. They actually think he doesn't lie, gets things done. They say everything he said he would do, he did. They think he stopped Obama Care and Biden brought it back. Even after I told them just a few days ago Vance hilariously said trump saved it. You tell them facts, they look at you like you have two heads, I just want to scream. Fucking Idiots.
niyad
(120,814 posts)WestMichRad
(1,909 posts)Please!
niyad
(120,814 posts)OrlandoDem2
(2,337 posts)official presidential duties. Dont think for a minute he wouldnt.
Baron2024
(263 posts)If Trump gets back in office and suspends the Constitution he would no longer be the legitimate President. He would be an unlawful Dictator. The President's authority derives from the Constitution. No Constitution, no authority. We are loyal to the country and the Constitution, not any one person. Anyone in the Federal Government or the Military that is not loyal to their oath to defend the Constitution should be legally removed. If Trump takes over and tries to suspend the Constitution, everyone in the Military, the Federal Government, and also just Citizens loyal to the Constitution would be called upon to rise up and Actively Resist the illegal Trump Regime.
progressoid
(50,815 posts)Emile
(30,951 posts)ailsagirl
(23,891 posts)Blue Owl
(54,974 posts)Martin68
(24,773 posts)it seems to me Trump is making statements that if issued by anybody else would incur an investigation and a possible arrest. Like telling a crowd to beat up a protestor.
Initech
(102,595 posts)I've been called paranoid because I think that Trump would be capable of doing this. But believe me, he is. And all of the worst things that would encompass a second Trump term would happen if he's given a complicit Congress and SCOTUS. And he would have Fox News cheerleading and kissing his ass on every single move he makes. I see Trump and I see a man who is capable of great destruction to this country.
applegrove
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when they want to shut you up online. It is like clockwork that if you make a good point on a mixed board you will be labeled as paranoid. But call them part of a cult and you'll get booted from the discussion forum.
usonian
(14,797 posts)https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/adolf-hitler-donald-trump-mein-kampf-bluffed-way-to-power-nazi-leader-germany-fuhrer-us-president-election-ron-rosenbaum-a7568506.html
ProfessorPlum
(11,388 posts)2020 and now 2024.