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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWow -- this was weird. Trump wrapped up his "town hall" in Oaks, Pennsylvania, after just a few questions...
Link to tweet
He then tells his production crew to play YMCA "nice and loud" and wraps it up. Definitely one of the most bizarre Trump events I can recall.
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demmiblue
(37,871 posts)Upthevibe
(9,233 posts)I expect Sinead O'Connor's estate will issue a cease and desist letter (or whomever owns the rights to, "Nothing Compares to You"- Prince wrote the song).
demmiblue
(37,871 posts)Doodley
(10,452 posts)Ocelot II
(121,382 posts)people have on their dashboards. If they don't make one of him, they should.
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Disaffected
(5,157 posts)There is no way on earth they had permission to use that song.
BTW, Cohen's "Halleluiah" is not what one would call "religious" music.
AloeVera
(2,004 posts)Not only that Leonard Cohen's hauntingly beautiful song is not recognized but that Trump thinks it's beautiful too. How is that even possible?
He's probably lying.
Hekate
(95,203 posts)A few, really very few, changes in words which also happens in secular settings and it is very spiritual indeed.
But I agree that neither the songwriter nor his estate would have given permission to Trump the schmuck to use it at his rallies.
Disaffected
(5,157 posts)OneBlueDotS-Carolina
(1,432 posts)karynnj
(59,999 posts)Cha
(305,812 posts)hatrack
(61,176 posts)tanyev
(44,700 posts)UTUSN
(72,658 posts)Bev54
(11,935 posts)It just makes me laugh. I did enjoy the Lesbian couple right behind him when he was talking. He is going to go ballistic on his campaign staff, if anyone points it out to him.
Botany
(72,641 posts)Btw did he have the rights to play Leonard Cohen and or G n R? Do I smell more law suits coming?
Bev54
(11,935 posts)Botany
(72,641 posts)
. has something to say about it. Just like the lawyers for Issac Hayess family and trusts
who got an injunction against Trump for the use of his music even after they had sent the
Trump campaign cease and desist letters and now they are going to sue the hell out of
Trump.
Btw did Trump have the South Dakota dog killer with him on stage?
And was he using Guns and Roses music too?
Good God in Butter that was a train wreck into a dumpster fire 🔥.
Bev54
(11,935 posts)so if that person had permission to use the song and then he allows Trump to use it, is it legit? Not sure who was on stage, didn't really pay attention. I usually don't even watch any videos of him, but was interested in the songs. I also never considered Hallelujah as a religious song but maybe that is just me.
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tavernier
(13,277 posts)People with dementia become much more confused and disoriented after dark.
Jack Valentino
(1,497 posts)confused and disoriented earlier in the day, than he is later in the evening....
tavernier
(13,277 posts)there is a facial expression, a look in the eyes that they were suddenly elsewhere that I observed in my patients more pronounced after the sun set. That is how he looked to me tonight in those clips.
Jack Valentino
(1,497 posts)Just saying Trump in the morning is little better than Trump in the evening--- if you understand my meaning---
In my humble non-medical opinion, Trump is a "sundowner" 24 hours a day!!!
servermsh
(1,406 posts)pat_k
(10,882 posts)Or express a little concern? Or maybe reassure people a medical issue is being addressed?
AloeVera
(2,004 posts)Two of my favourite songs of all time - Time to Say Goodbye (Con Te Partiro) and Hallelujah, both playing at a Trump rally. Feels like we've entered a different dimension.
demmiblue
(37,871 posts)He has been standing on stage playing his favorite songs awkwardly to a crowd for more than 20 minutes instead of answering questions:
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progressoid
(50,785 posts)The slurring of the speech and the rambling dialog. At least a few of those cult members had to be wondering what the fuck happened.
Jack Valentino
(1,497 posts)walking distance of their cars....
kentuck
(112,947 posts)What is his sick mind trying to convey to his followers. He's going after the "man vote"? He's trying to start a gender war?
He's a real snake.
Jack Valentino
(1,497 posts)loser white men are his only hope.
bee_peaceful
(35 posts)is what is really weird. Can there be that many cultists living around me? That is much scarier than the (R) scare talk..
lees1975
(6,087 posts)The national polls and the battlegrounds are holding steady for Harris. And don't show me what 270 or 538 or RCP or BTRTN says, because they're including the red wave polls.
You're right, it seems really weird because it is. It's a red mirage. Don't buy into it, that's what they're doing this for. Get off mainstream media and go to independent news sources. Listen to Democracy Now.
crimycarny
(1,647 posts)12 of the 15 polls in one of the last national aggregates were right-wing sponsored. The same thing happened this time (October) in 2022. I wondered why the GOP would try to make the races seem tighter the closer to election day because, to me, it seems that would simply ensure Dems turnout.
Apparently they do this for two reasons: 1) to keep their base from being demoralized and 2) to try and panic Dems into putting money into races that seem tight, but really aren't, and to not spend money in races that are winnable but the (polluted) polls appear to be a lost cause for Dems.
Didn't work in 2022, won't work in 2024.
caraher
(6,312 posts)To create the illusion that the election was stolen among his followers when he loses
Thats definitely another reason they pollute the polls.
Wiz Imp
(2,334 posts)Based on what's listed on 270towin
The last national poll to show Trump with a lead was a full month ago from AtlasIntel (a right wing pollster which does not have a positive reputation). During the past month only 4 polls (out of 44) even showed the race tied. That includes the recent NBC poll which was of registered voters meaning it probably under states Harris' support.
So, no. Trump is not gaining in the national polls
Without commenting on the reliability of the polls, it is totally fair to say it remains a close race, but the national polling has shown the margins very stable for over a month now.
Yes, the swing state polls have tightened but that can be traced directly to the heavy influx of "red wave" polls since the beginning of October.
Jack Valentino
(1,497 posts)which happens in almost every election. That is somewhat normal.
It does not disturb me, because what matters is "turnout",
and all the metrics for that favor US!
Hell, there is no election in my memory when so many Republicans ever publicly came out endorsing the Democrat in a presidential election---
it has never happened before!
crimycarny
(1,647 posts)My husband and I were just talking about all the Republicans who have not only said they dont support trump, but are actually saying they are VOTING for Kamala. I asked my husband Do you ever remember this happening when so many established party members came out for the OPPOSITE party? It was a serious question because I thought maybe I was just not remembering. But, no, neither of us remember an election like this. (Were in our 60s).
I hope that means not just a victory but a landslide for Kamala.
Cha
(305,812 posts)on DU. I know everyone doesn't see Everything on here but those are important.
slightlv
(4,416 posts)Have been accompanied by cease and desist letters?!
Jack Valentino
(1,497 posts)was an 'under the radar' pro-Gay anthem????
LMAO
Hekate
(95,203 posts)Disaffected
(5,157 posts)YMCA is a contender, IMO, for world's most annoying song (the music, not the message).
Jack Valentino
(1,497 posts)Perhaps he is confusing it with the Village People's OTHER most popular hit,
"Macho Man"--- which probably should have been his rally song of choice,
taking his own contexts into account....
rubbersole
(8,683 posts)John1956PA
(3,421 posts)"You can get yourself clean,
You can have a good meal,
You can do whatever you feeeel."
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onecaliberal
(36,264 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,417 posts)This is not entirely maga country .
Grokenstein
(5,851 posts)It's a YUGELY popular song for funerals.
I can almost understand the other ones--telling his own supporters to shut up and stop asking questions, and playing songs the artists would never give permission is what passes for a "power move" in dim donnie's world--but that one is sheer WTF'kery.
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peppertree
(22,850 posts)May Repugs have that exact same feeling this November.
BlueKota
(3,720 posts)I want to say goodbye to him for eternity.
Also I did read that in some forms of dementia, if the decline suddenly starts to accelerate in severity, it maybe a sign the person might not make it much longer.
tanyev
(44,700 posts)Bristlecone
(10,515 posts)Do they not have any PA Rs that could host?
Takket
(22,646 posts)all those voters that say they want to know a candidate's policy will be turned off by someone literally not taking questions at a town hall. right? right??????????????
how the hell is this election going to be so close........
nolabear
(43,276 posts)I dont doubt theyd be all gooshy over it but it has to have been rattling at about the third song to realize he wasnt kiddingthey were just going to enjoy a musical interlude. A LONG musical interlude.
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,389 posts)Grammy23
(5,912 posts)Therefore Time to say Goodbye might be appropriate. 🤔
Iggo
(48,483 posts)Johnny2X2X
(21,874 posts)When is the media going to start covering this? Hes seriously diminished. Hes skirting his words and cant even talk straight.
Baitball Blogger
(48,390 posts)Vogon_Glory
(9,592 posts)the lamestream corporate medias response would be to ignore it and move on to cover celebrity glitter and some manufactured scandal.
But close your eyes and imagine how the lamestream corporate news media would have reacted if Joe Biden had given a similar performance? The pack would already have been out and baying.
kimbutgar
(23,568 posts)You could see it in her darting eyes!
It was like OMG he is sounding crazy!
indigovalley
(202 posts)Ave Maria; Time To Say Goodbye; It's A Man's World; YMCA; Hallelujah; Nothing Compares 2 U; An American Trilogy; Rich Men North of Richmond; November Rain; Memory from Cats. He also inexplicably played Dixie even though he was in Pennsylvania.
Wiz Imp
(2,334 posts)In November 2018, after Trump played the band's hit song "Sweet Child o' Mine" during an event, Axl Rose said that he and his band had formally requested that Trump not use their music at his events, and posted on X that "the Trump campaign is using loopholes in the various venues' blanket performance licenses which were not intended for such craven political purposes, without the songwriters' consent."
In May 2020, Axl Rose opposed the use of the Guns N' Roses cover of the Paul McCartney and Wings song "Live and Let Die" in a meatpacking plant where Trump refused to take the COVID-19 pandemic precaution of wearing a mask. In response, Rose created shirts with the phrase "Live N Let Die With COVID 45", with all proceeds going to the MusiCares charity
Hallelujah - On August 28, 2020, Leonard Cohen's estate issued a statement criticizing Trump's unauthorized use of Cohen's "Hallelujah" at the Republican National Convention. They said they specifically rejected permission for its use, (Now here he played a cover version but Cohen's estate still controls the rights)
Luciano Pavarotti He played Pavarotti's version of Ave Maria
Family members of Italian opera singer Luciano Pavarotti protested the use of his recording of "Nessun Dorma" (which ends with the line "Vincerò! Vincerò!" "I will win! I will win!" at Trump's rallies. Pavarotti's widow and three daughters objected, stating that Trump's views on immigration were incompatible with Pavarotti's efforts as United Nations Messenger of Peace, which had raised large amounts of money for the support of immigrants and refugees.
Nothing Compares to You
The estate of Sinéad O'Connor has asked Donald Trump to stop using her music at his political rallies.
YMCA I posted elsewhere that the Village people have been trying for years to get him to stop playing this.
UTUSN
(72,658 posts)* Item: Nessum Dorma is a male role aria, here sung by a female. (Disclaimer, from the disapproving point of view of MAGATs)
* Item: "It's a Man's World" when he needs women's votes.
* Item: YMCA to his followers who are hostile to Gays.
* Item: "Halleluyah" that SNL played as a lament for Hillary in 2016.
, indeed.
Skittles
(160,236 posts)while fully embracing ANTIFA
Figarosmom
(3,251 posts)And say "yeah that's the guy who should hold my future in his hands. That was great." And they believe thst. I DONT GET IT
Warpy
(113,131 posts)Obviously, he was sundowning and starting to ad lib and they wanted to get him the hell out of there before he said anything even more stupid than he already had. I'd suggest using tranquilizer darts from now on, the verbal cuing is too easy for him to ignore.
Oh, and note to Fatso: purple has long been the color of office and of royaly--you know, the things you want. When the devil is portrayed, it'a uauLLY IN AHsw od ews NS VLxk---you know, like your favorite suits and ties.
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