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demmiblue

(37,871 posts)
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 07:23 PM Oct 14

Wow -- this was weird. Trump wrapped up his "town hall" in Oaks, Pennsylvania, after just a few questions...

Wow -- this was weird. Trump wrapped up his "town hall" in Oaks, Pennsylvania, after just a few questions, and right after he said he would take a few more questions. More music then played while Trump stood around on stage. Deeply bizarre scenes.

they're now playing an opera version of "It's A Man's Man's Man's World" while Trump continues to bob around on stage. words fail.



Trump takes the mic again. He says he'll take another question, changes his mind, and calls Democrats "evil. They're evil."
He then tells his production crew to play YMCA "nice and loud" and wraps it up. Definitely one of the most bizarre Trump events I can recall.

Trump is now just standing on stage while religious music plays




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Wow -- this was weird. Trump wrapped up his "town hall" in Oaks, Pennsylvania, after just a few questions... (Original Post) demmiblue Oct 14 OP
Trump is still standing on stage bopping around to music fyi demmiblue Oct 14 #1
I only watched a little of it..... Upthevibe Oct 14 #74
Guns N' Roses is playing now. Can't make it up. Trump is still standing around. demmiblue Oct 14 #2
I wonder if he became aware that his diaper was full. Doodley Oct 14 #3
OK, that's *super* weird. He's just bouncing around like one of those bobble-head dolls Ocelot II Oct 14 #4
Post removed Post removed Oct 14 #42
Leonard Cohen is probably doing 100 RPM now. Disaffected Oct 14 #5
Yeah. I'm shocked. AloeVera Oct 14 #11
Not so oddly, I find Cohen's "Hallelujah" in both Christian and Jewish settings at this point Hekate Oct 14 #21
I would agree - spiritual. nt Disaffected Oct 14 #23
I think it was Rufus Wainwright's version, n/t OneBlueDotS-Carolina Oct 14 #64
Wow. and he has the chutzpah to demand cognitive testing for Harris! karynnj Oct 14 #6
He's a Psychotic Sociopath. Cha Oct 14 #69
What (and I can't stress this enough) The Fuck? hatrack Oct 14 #7
How can they miss him if he won't go away? tanyev Oct 14 #8
That he's just calling it in gives me hope UTUSN Oct 14 #9
I just don't see his supporters as fans of opera or classical music. Bev54 Oct 14 #10
The one on the left would not clap for him. I think both of them were punking him real bad. Botany Oct 14 #38
Yeah I doubt he has the rights, not sure who does now, his daughter? Bev54 Oct 14 #48
I would imagine that the estate which manages the use of Cohen's music for the benefit his heirs Botany Oct 14 #56
Yeah, I don't know enough about how it works, not sure who it was singing but it wasn't Cohen Bev54 Oct 14 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Oct 14 #67
He has sundowners. tavernier Oct 14 #12
I understand that experts say that--- but I cannot see any evidence that Trump is less Jack Valentino Oct 14 #36
As a nurse who worked with dementia patients, including Alzheimer's, tavernier Oct 14 #45
"Just sayin' ". I'm not a nurse, and not saying you are wrong. Jack Valentino Oct 14 #47
There are claims there were medical events in the audience n/t servermsh Oct 14 #13
If so, why the hell not make an announcement? pat_k Oct 14 #33
Twilight Zone. AloeVera Oct 14 #14
Trump at his town hall: "Let's not do any more questions. Let's just listen to music. Who the hell wants to hear questio demmiblue Oct 14 #15
What the??? progressoid Oct 14 #17
Even his magat supporters don't want to hear his answers, if they are within Jack Valentino Oct 14 #49
It's A Man's World? kentuck Oct 14 #16
I guess he's smart enough to know that most of the women won't vote for him--- Jack Valentino Oct 14 #34
He is gaining in the polls on National media... bee_peaceful Oct 14 #18
No, he's gaining in polls funded by Republican and Maga corporate and business interests. lees1975 Oct 14 #22
No, the polls are being polluted with right wing polls crimycarny Oct 14 #27
Don't forget #3 caraher Oct 14 #43
Yep crimycarny Oct 14 #68
one more time Wiz Imp Oct 14 #58
It is a natural "tightening of the race at the end of the campaign" Jack Valentino Oct 14 #63
I was just talking about this two min ago crimycarny Oct 14 #70
No. They're Magat polls... There's been several OPs about it Cha Oct 14 #72
How many of those songs slightlv Oct 14 #19
When will someone explain to Trump that the Village People's song "Y.M.C.A." Jack Valentino Oct 14 #20
Maybe he thinks it's really a group called the Village Idiots & is about him Hekate Oct 14 #24
Indeed. Trouble is though Disaffected Oct 14 #26
yeah, lmao--- seems like it was a favorite at wedding receptions back in the '90s... Jack Valentino Oct 14 #32
Rivals the 'Pina Colada' song ("Escape")... rubbersole Oct 14 #65
Lively lyrics. John1956PA Oct 14 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Oct 14 #59
His crowd size is underwhelming. Compared to the Vice President it is notable. onecaliberal Oct 14 #25
He's clearly losing his mind, and Montgomery county voters will notice lindysalsagal Oct 14 #28
Stood there while "Time to Say Goodbye" played. WOW Grokenstein Oct 14 #29
I remember Bocelli's version playing after a really bad breakup, many years ago peppertree Oct 14 #35
Hopefully it's a prophetic title. BlueKota Oct 14 #40
Wow, the makeup. Welcome to Donny's Traveling Minstrel Show. tanyev Oct 14 #51
Why is Kristi Noem hosting a town hall in PA? Bristlecone Oct 14 #31
surely his poll numbers in PA will plummet now right??? Takket Oct 14 #37
I'd love to have heard what attendees had to say. nolabear Oct 14 #39
TFG was sundowning LetMyPeopleVote Oct 14 #41
So maybe that asshat knows he is going to lose. Grammy23 Oct 14 #44
He knew he was going to lose in 2016, too. And then he won. Iggo Oct 14 #60
He is clearly unwell Johnny2X2X Oct 14 #46
Weird gets weirder. Baitball Blogger Oct 14 #50
And except for partisan sources like Kos and Raw Story, Vogon_Glory Oct 14 #52
Kristi dog killer Noem looked so uncomfortable kimbutgar Oct 14 #53
The playlist looks like it comes from the voices in his head indigovalley Oct 14 #54
Figures he's been asked to stop playing most of these songs or artists in the past but won't stop Wiz Imp Oct 14 #66
Such a confused D.J. - UTUSN Oct 14 #55
he doesn't understand how MAGA can be criticized Skittles Oct 14 #57
And rhese people go home Figarosmom Oct 14 #61
Who's the woman trying to give him some cues? Warpy Oct 14 #71
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Oct 14 #73

Upthevibe

(9,233 posts)
74. I only watched a little of it.....
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 10:55 PM
Oct 14

I expect Sinead O'Connor's estate will issue a cease and desist letter (or whomever owns the rights to, "Nothing Compares to You"- Prince wrote the song).

Ocelot II

(121,382 posts)
4. OK, that's *super* weird. He's just bouncing around like one of those bobble-head dolls
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 07:42 PM
Oct 14

people have on their dashboards. If they don't make one of him, they should.

Response to Ocelot II (Reply #4)

Disaffected

(5,157 posts)
5. Leonard Cohen is probably doing 100 RPM now.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 07:43 PM
Oct 14

There is no way on earth they had permission to use that song.



BTW, Cohen's "Halleluiah" is not what one would call "religious" music.

AloeVera

(2,004 posts)
11. Yeah. I'm shocked.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:06 PM
Oct 14

Not only that Leonard Cohen's hauntingly beautiful song is not recognized but that Trump thinks it's beautiful too. How is that even possible?

He's probably lying.

Hekate

(95,203 posts)
21. Not so oddly, I find Cohen's "Hallelujah" in both Christian and Jewish settings at this point
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:42 PM
Oct 14

A few, really very few, changes in words — which also happens in secular settings — and it is very spiritual indeed.

But I agree that neither the songwriter nor his estate would have given permission to Trump the schmuck to use it at his rallies.

Bev54

(11,935 posts)
10. I just don't see his supporters as fans of opera or classical music.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:01 PM
Oct 14

It just makes me laugh. I did enjoy the Lesbian couple right behind him when he was talking. He is going to go ballistic on his campaign staff, if anyone points it out to him.

Botany

(72,641 posts)
38. The one on the left would not clap for him. I think both of them were punking him real bad.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:07 PM
Oct 14

Btw did he have the rights to play Leonard Cohen and or G n R? Do I smell more law suits coming?

Botany

(72,641 posts)
56. I would imagine that the estate which manages the use of Cohen's music for the benefit his heirs
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:39 PM
Oct 14

…. has something to say about it. Just like the lawyers for Issac Hayes’s family and trusts
who got an injunction against Trump for the use of his music even after they had sent the
Trump campaign cease and desist letters and now they are going to sue the hell out of
Trump.

Btw did Trump have the South Dakota dog killer with him on stage?

And was he using Guns and Roses music too?

Good God in Butter that was a train wreck into a dumpster fire 🔥.

Bev54

(11,935 posts)
62. Yeah, I don't know enough about how it works, not sure who it was singing but it wasn't Cohen
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:55 PM
Oct 14

so if that person had permission to use the song and then he allows Trump to use it, is it legit? Not sure who was on stage, didn't really pay attention. I usually don't even watch any videos of him, but was interested in the songs. I also never considered Hallelujah as a religious song but maybe that is just me.

Response to Botany (Reply #38)

tavernier

(13,277 posts)
12. He has sundowners.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:09 PM
Oct 14

People with dementia become much more confused and disoriented after dark.

Jack Valentino

(1,497 posts)
36. I understand that experts say that--- but I cannot see any evidence that Trump is less
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:04 PM
Oct 14

confused and disoriented earlier in the day, than he is later in the evening....



tavernier

(13,277 posts)
45. As a nurse who worked with dementia patients, including Alzheimer's,
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:16 PM
Oct 14

there is a facial expression, a look in the eyes that they were suddenly “elsewhere” … that I observed in my patients more pronounced after the sun set. That is how he looked to me tonight in those clips.

Jack Valentino

(1,497 posts)
47. "Just sayin' ". I'm not a nurse, and not saying you are wrong.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:19 PM
Oct 14

Just saying Trump in the morning is little better than Trump in the evening--- if you understand my meaning---

In my humble non-medical opinion, Trump is a "sundowner" 24 hours a day!!!



pat_k

(10,882 posts)
33. If so, why the hell not make an announcement?
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:01 PM
Oct 14

Or express a little concern? Or maybe reassure people a medical issue is being addressed?

AloeVera

(2,004 posts)
14. Twilight Zone.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:12 PM
Oct 14

Two of my favourite songs of all time - Time to Say Goodbye (Con Te Partiro) and Hallelujah, both playing at a Trump rally. Feels like we've entered a different dimension.

demmiblue

(37,871 posts)
15. Trump at his town hall: "Let's not do any more questions. Let's just listen to music. Who the hell wants to hear questio
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:14 PM
Oct 14
Trump at his town hall: "Let's not do any more questions. Let's just listen to music. Who the hell wants to hear questions?"

Trump was not kidding.

He has been standing on stage playing his favorite songs awkwardly to a crowd for more than 20 minutes instead of answering questions:


progressoid

(50,785 posts)
17. What the???
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:30 PM
Oct 14

The slurring of the speech and the rambling dialog. At least a few of those cult members had to be wondering what the fuck happened.

Jack Valentino

(1,497 posts)
49. Even his magat supporters don't want to hear his answers, if they are within
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:22 PM
Oct 14

walking distance of their cars....

kentuck

(112,947 posts)
16. It's A Man's World?
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:22 PM
Oct 14

What is his sick mind trying to convey to his followers. He's going after the "man vote"? He's trying to start a gender war?

He's a real snake.

Jack Valentino

(1,497 posts)
34. I guess he's smart enough to know that most of the women won't vote for him---
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:03 PM
Oct 14

loser white men are his only hope.

bee_peaceful

(35 posts)
18. He is gaining in the polls on National media...
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:31 PM
Oct 14

is what is really weird. Can there be that many cultists living around me? That is much scarier than the (R) scare talk..

lees1975

(6,087 posts)
22. No, he's gaining in polls funded by Republican and Maga corporate and business interests.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:43 PM
Oct 14

The national polls and the battlegrounds are holding steady for Harris. And don't show me what 270 or 538 or RCP or BTRTN says, because they're including the red wave polls.

You're right, it seems really weird because it is. It's a red mirage. Don't buy into it, that's what they're doing this for. Get off mainstream media and go to independent news sources. Listen to Democracy Now.

crimycarny

(1,647 posts)
27. No, the polls are being polluted with right wing polls
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:51 PM
Oct 14

12 of the 15 polls in one of the last national aggregates were right-wing sponsored. The same thing happened this time (October) in 2022. I wondered why the GOP would try to make the races seem tighter the closer to election day because, to me, it seems that would simply ensure Dems turnout.

Apparently they do this for two reasons: 1) to keep their base from being demoralized and 2) to try and panic Dems into putting money into races that seem tight, but really aren't, and to not spend money in races that are winnable but the (polluted) polls appear to be a lost cause for Dems.

Didn't work in 2022, won't work in 2024.

caraher

(6,312 posts)
43. Don't forget #3
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:12 PM
Oct 14

To create the illusion that the election was stolen among his followers when he loses

Wiz Imp

(2,334 posts)
58. one more time
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:43 PM
Oct 14

Based on what's listed on 270towin

The last national poll to show Trump with a lead was a full month ago from AtlasIntel (a right wing pollster which does not have a positive reputation). During the past month only 4 polls (out of 44) even showed the race tied. That includes the recent NBC poll which was of registered voters meaning it probably under states Harris' support.

So, no. Trump is not gaining in the national polls

Without commenting on the reliability of the polls, it is totally fair to say it remains a close race, but the national polling has shown the margins very stable for over a month now.

Yes, the swing state polls have tightened but that can be traced directly to the heavy influx of "red wave" polls since the beginning of October.

Jack Valentino

(1,497 posts)
63. It is a natural "tightening of the race at the end of the campaign"
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:56 PM
Oct 14

which happens in almost every election. That is somewhat normal.


It does not disturb me, because what matters is "turnout",
and all the metrics for that favor US!


Hell, there is no election in my memory when so many Republicans ever publicly came out endorsing the Democrat in a presidential election---
it has never happened before!


crimycarny

(1,647 posts)
70. I was just talking about this two min ago
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 10:23 PM
Oct 14

My husband and I were just talking about all the Republicans who have not only said they don’t support trump, but are actually saying they are VOTING for Kamala. I asked my husband “Do you ever remember this happening when so many established party members came out for the OPPOSITE party?” It was a serious question because I thought maybe I was just not remembering. But, no, neither of us remember an election like this. (We’re in our 60’s).

I hope that means not just a victory but a landslide for Kamala.

Cha

(305,812 posts)
72. No. They're Magat polls... There's been several OPs about it
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 10:25 PM
Oct 14

on DU. I know everyone doesn't see Everything on here but those are important.

Jack Valentino

(1,497 posts)
20. When will someone explain to Trump that the Village People's song "Y.M.C.A."
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:38 PM
Oct 14

was an 'under the radar' pro-Gay anthem????


LMAO

Disaffected

(5,157 posts)
26. Indeed. Trouble is though
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:48 PM
Oct 14

YMCA is a contender, IMO, for world's most annoying song (the music, not the message).

Jack Valentino

(1,497 posts)
32. yeah, lmao--- seems like it was a favorite at wedding receptions back in the '90s...
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:01 PM
Oct 14

Perhaps he is confusing it with the Village People's OTHER most popular hit,
"Macho Man"--- which probably should have been his rally song of choice,
taking his own contexts into account....

John1956PA

(3,421 posts)
30. Lively lyrics.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:54 PM
Oct 14

"You can get yourself clean,
You can have a good meal,
You can do whatever you feeeel."

Response to Jack Valentino (Reply #20)

lindysalsagal

(22,417 posts)
28. He's clearly losing his mind, and Montgomery county voters will notice
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:51 PM
Oct 14

This is not entirely maga country .

Grokenstein

(5,851 posts)
29. Stood there while "Time to Say Goodbye" played. WOW
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 08:52 PM
Oct 14

It's a YUGELY popular song for funerals.

I can almost understand the other ones--telling his own supporters to shut up and stop asking questions, and playing songs the artists would never give permission is what passes for a "power move" in dim donnie's world--but that one is sheer WTF'kery.


peppertree

(22,850 posts)
35. I remember Bocelli's version playing after a really bad breakup, many years ago
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:04 PM
Oct 14

May Repugs have that exact same feeling this November.

BlueKota

(3,720 posts)
40. Hopefully it's a prophetic title.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:08 PM
Oct 14

I want to say goodbye to him for eternity.

Also I did read that in some forms of dementia, if the decline suddenly starts to accelerate in severity, it maybe a sign the person might not make it much longer.

Takket

(22,646 posts)
37. surely his poll numbers in PA will plummet now right???
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:07 PM
Oct 14

all those voters that say they want to know a candidate's policy will be turned off by someone literally not taking questions at a town hall. right? right??????????????

how the hell is this election going to be so close........

nolabear

(43,276 posts)
39. I'd love to have heard what attendees had to say.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:08 PM
Oct 14

I don’t doubt they’d be all gooshy over it but it has to have been rattling at about the third song to realize he wasn’t kidding—they were just going to enjoy a musical interlude. A LONG musical interlude.

Grammy23

(5,912 posts)
44. So maybe that asshat knows he is going to lose.
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:15 PM
Oct 14


Therefore Time to say Goodbye might be appropriate. 🤔

Johnny2X2X

(21,874 posts)
46. He is clearly unwell
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:17 PM
Oct 14

When is the media going to start covering this? He’s seriously diminished. He’s skirting his words and can’t even talk straight.

Vogon_Glory

(9,592 posts)
52. And except for partisan sources like Kos and Raw Story,
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:29 PM
Oct 14

the lamestream corporate media’s response would be to ignore it and move on to cover celebrity glitter and some manufactured scandal.

But close your eyes and imagine how the lamestream corporate news media would have reacted if Joe Biden had given a similar performance? The pack would already have been out and baying.

kimbutgar

(23,568 posts)
53. Kristi dog killer Noem looked so uncomfortable
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:32 PM
Oct 14

You could see it in her darting eyes!

It was like OMG he is sounding crazy!

indigovalley

(202 posts)
54. The playlist looks like it comes from the voices in his head
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:38 PM
Oct 14

Ave Maria; Time To Say Goodbye; It's A Man's World; YMCA; Hallelujah; Nothing Compares 2 U; An American Trilogy; Rich Men North of Richmond; November Rain; Memory from Cats. He also inexplicably played Dixie even though he was in Pennsylvania.

Wiz Imp

(2,334 posts)
66. Figures he's been asked to stop playing most of these songs or artists in the past but won't stop
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 10:10 PM
Oct 14
Guns n Roses - Can't find a specific reference to November Rain but they have tried to get him to stop using other songs

In November 2018, after Trump played the band's hit song "Sweet Child o' Mine" during an event, Axl Rose said that he and his band had formally requested that Trump not use their music at his events, and posted on X that "the Trump campaign is using loopholes in the various venues' blanket performance licenses which were not intended for such craven political purposes, without the songwriters' consent."

In May 2020, Axl Rose opposed the use of the Guns N' Roses cover of the Paul McCartney and Wings song "Live and Let Die" in a meatpacking plant where Trump refused to take the COVID-19 pandemic precaution of wearing a mask. In response, Rose created shirts with the phrase "Live N’ Let Die With COVID 45", with all proceeds going to the MusiCares charity

Hallelujah - On August 28, 2020, Leonard Cohen's estate issued a statement criticizing Trump's unauthorized use of Cohen's "Hallelujah" at the Republican National Convention. They said they specifically rejected permission for its use, (Now here he played a cover version but Cohen's estate still controls the rights)

Luciano Pavarotti He played Pavarotti's version of Ave Maria
Family members of Italian opera singer Luciano Pavarotti protested the use of his recording of "Nessun Dorma" (which ends with the line "Vincerò! Vincerò!" – "I will win! I will win!&quot at Trump's rallies. Pavarotti's widow and three daughters objected, stating that Trump's views on immigration were incompatible with Pavarotti's efforts as United Nations Messenger of Peace, which had raised large amounts of money for the support of immigrants and refugees.

Nothing Compares to You
The estate of Sinéad O'Connor has asked Donald Trump to stop using her music at his political rallies.

YMCA I posted elsewhere that the Village people have been trying for years to get him to stop playing this.

UTUSN

(72,658 posts)
55. Such a confused D.J. -
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:38 PM
Oct 14

* Item: Nessum Dorma is a male role aria, here sung by a female. (Disclaimer, from the disapproving point of view of MAGATs)

* Item: "It's a Man's World" when he needs women's votes.

* Item: YMCA to his followers who are hostile to Gays.

* Item: "Halleluyah" that SNL played as a lament for Hillary in 2016.

, indeed.





Figarosmom

(3,251 posts)
61. And rhese people go home
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 09:49 PM
Oct 14

And say "yeah that's the guy who should hold my future in his hands. That was great." And they believe thst. I DONT GET IT

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
71. Who's the woman trying to give him some cues?
Mon Oct 14, 2024, 10:24 PM
Oct 14

Obviously, he was sundowning and starting to ad lib and they wanted to get him the hell out of there before he said anything even more stupid than he already had. I'd suggest using tranquilizer darts from now on, the verbal cuing is too easy for him to ignore.

Oh, and note to Fatso: purple has long been the color of office and of royaly--you know, the things you want. When the devil is portrayed, it'a uauLLY IN AHsw od ews NS VLxk---you know, like your favorite suits and ties.

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