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Pete Buttigieg with the only acceptable answer RE: "late term abortions" (Original Post) kpete Oct 15 OP
Pete is so good at this. Hope he becomes SOS under Harris. travelingthrulife Oct 15 #1
He truly is masterful at clarifying the argument. Trueblue Texan Oct 15 #34
He definitely needs a high level role in government. He is too... NNadir Oct 15 #47
His talents would be wasted in almost any role, Qutzupalotl Oct 15 #48
He can effortlessly cut someone off who asks trick questions (he uses LOGIC) ailsagirl Oct 15 #54
Jesus H. Christ in a chicken basket! SKKY Oct 15 #2
He is. My father in law asked me about Pete being POTUS once underpants Oct 15 #5
Ya got that right. Iggo Oct 15 #9
It's just occurred to me. Arthur_Frain Oct 15 #32
Bravo, sir! So well said. Timeflyer Oct 15 #3
That's the best answer I've ever heard to this question. Buckeyeblue Oct 15 #4
Thinking the same thing KS Toronado Oct 15 #14
I've been thinking recently that late term abortions are the most necessary abortions, soldierant Oct 15 #53
We are really talking about emergency C-sections and premies Deminpenn Oct 16 #56
Exactly. soldierant Oct 16 #58
I'm gonna frame this one. SupportSanity Oct 15 #6
We might be ready as a country for him by then ArkansasDemocrat1 Oct 15 #33
I saw that interview and have used Pete's answer Phoenix61 Oct 15 #7
That has been my answer for years. Lifeafter70 Oct 15 #51
I always listen when he speaks. I learn things. He is smarter than I. twodogsbarking Oct 15 #8
I would also add... HariSeldon Oct 15 #10
A very impressive answer and rebuttal. I'm saving this for future use. Martin68 Oct 15 #11
Pete Buttigieg is a logicsmith. A gifted one. dchill Oct 15 #12
Perfect answer. Quiet Em Oct 15 #13
what a great explanation mr. buttigieg dawn5651 Oct 15 #15
Republicans are OK with letting 6000 women die. OAITW r.2.0 Oct 15 #16
Is this an older interview? Seem to remember it. Nt BootinUp Oct 15 #17
It does sound familiar, so maybe... 3catwoman3 Oct 15 #27
He will be POTUS someday. nt BootinUp Oct 15 #28
I Liken Pete To Barack Obama - When We First Noticed Him At The Dem Conv Where....... global1 Oct 15 #29
And if he picked Melania for VP they would speak 12 languages! rubbersole Oct 15 #39
He needs a higher profile job in the next administration. Sec of state or something else. Brilliant dude dsp3000 Oct 15 #18
This was always the obvious answer Oliver Bolliver Butt Oct 15 #19
I've never heard anyone other individual nail it the way Buttigeige does, I first heard him say this several years ago. msfiddlestix Oct 15 #20
Thanks. I took a big risk and forwarded this Easterncedar Oct 15 #21
Bookmarked verargert Oct 15 #22
repeat, repeat, repeat Pete BoRaGard Oct 15 #23
He would make such an incredible avebury Oct 15 #24
And of these 1% cases; most of the time the baby is already dead or is expected to die or having a flying_wahini Oct 15 #25
That was a real bad example to us Oppaloopa Oct 15 #31
I've been in a few of this situations and they are always extremely hard Quiet Em Oct 15 #36
my AG here in Texas is so repulsive PedroXimenez Oct 15 #26
That's a damned fine answer! -misanthroptimist Oct 15 #30
sorry Pete, its NOT a good enough answer or defination to put this to rest.... samnsara Oct 15 #35
I agree. And I know the question BlueSky3 Oct 15 #37
. WhiskeyGrinder Oct 15 #40
As far as I can see and determine Zilli Oct 15 #38
Yes Figarosmom Oct 15 #41
There has to be unbelievable circumstance for a woman to choose an republianmushroom Oct 15 #42
These idiots think that a woman PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 15 #43
THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! calimary Oct 16 #55
That's how it's done, people! We don't bite on their provocation.... lastlib Oct 15 #44
🙄 Blue for the win Oct 15 #45
So good! nt LAS14 Oct 15 #46
**Here's the video WATCH** IcyPeas Oct 15 #49
I hope I live long enough to see him become President "Pete" Buttigieg. Of course with the help of my vote. usaf-vet Oct 15 #50
K and R times Infinity Martin Eden Oct 15 #52
He is so right wendyb-NC Oct 16 #57

Trueblue Texan

(2,986 posts)
34. He truly is masterful at clarifying the argument.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:50 AM
Oct 15

He is definitely going to stay in leadership for the rest of my lifetime, I have no doubt.

NNadir

(34,811 posts)
47. He definitely needs a high level role in government. He is too...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:47 PM
Oct 15

...intelligent, incisive and decent to pass up.

His way of cutting through an argument recommends him highly as SOS.

I would love to see him become the first gay President since Jamed Buchanan, though clearly he'd be infinitely more competent.

(I've read so as to believe it that Woodrow Wilson was bisexual.) As is the case with Buchanan, I'm sure Pete would be a far better President than either Buchanan or Wilson.

Qutzupalotl

(15,159 posts)
48. His talents would be wasted in almost any role,
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:56 PM
Oct 15

but he is so good at messaging, I'd be happy to see him head the DNC after Harrison (who is doing a good job). Or press secretary, can you imagine?

He has taken George Lakoff's ideas and internalized them. He is possibly the best debater I have ever seen.

ailsagirl

(23,860 posts)
54. He can effortlessly cut someone off who asks trick questions (he uses LOGIC)
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:39 PM
Oct 15

I really hope he becomes part of her administration!! Sanity will out!!

SKKY

(12,285 posts)
2. Jesus H. Christ in a chicken basket!
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:18 AM
Oct 15

That man is just unbelievably good at this stuff. He's a generational talent that is being wasted because a certain part of the electorate can't overlook the fact that he's a gay man.

underpants

(187,186 posts)
5. He is. My father in law asked me about Pete being POTUS once
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:25 AM
Oct 15

Their whole family was there including my brother in law who is a Republican.

I said “Not yet”
FIL “You think he’s too young?”
Me “uh….” My BIL is dying on the other end of the room as I’m trying to get around this. “I just don’t think it’s time yet”
FIL “maybe the next election?” He likes Pete
Again BIL has tears watching this.
Finally I said “I’m not sure a lot of people are uh ready for his husband….”
FIL “Oh!”

FIL is in his 80’s but he’s open minded. Good Bew Deal Dem.

Arthur_Frain

(2,199 posts)
32. It's just occurred to me.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:38 AM
Oct 15

That if he were to run for president I’d go to work for his campaign/administration. I can’t think of any other person I’ve said that of.

Timeflyer

(2,712 posts)
3. Bravo, sir! So well said.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:24 AM
Oct 15

How he stays so calm and eloquent when confronted by these types of "gotcha" questions (without expressing the urge to slap the questioner) is inspiring.

soldierant

(7,965 posts)
53. I've been thinking recently that late term abortions are the most necessary abortions,
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:20 PM
Oct 15

because they are only even considered when something goes terribly wrong with the health of the mother, or of the fetus. A lot od late term abortions should not even be callled abortions, because the fetus is already dead - and decomposing.

But I couldn't say it as well as he did.

Deminpenn

(16,347 posts)
56. We are really talking about emergency C-sections and premies
Wed Oct 16, 2024, 03:20 AM
Oct 16

not abortions in the 8th or 9th month. Neo natal care is amazing, but sometimes the babies can't be saved or are stillborn.

Phoenix61

(17,721 posts)
7. I saw that interview and have used Pete's answer
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:39 AM
Oct 15

multiple times when the question of late term abortion comes up.

HariSeldon

(509 posts)
10. I would also add...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:57 AM
Oct 15

...that every day spent pregnant is a medical risk. This person late in pregnancy has invested in the pregnancy, not just with hopes and dreams but with their very health, not to mention nutritional changes and discomfort.

Martin68

(24,701 posts)
11. A very impressive answer and rebuttal. I'm saving this for future use.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:59 AM
Oct 15

"Late" abortions are a very small percentage of the total, and usually indicate a serious threat to the life of the mother.

OAITW r.2.0

(28,582 posts)
16. Republicans are OK with letting 6000 women die.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:12 AM
Oct 15

That's the political calculus they have made to get their pseudo religious base fired up.

3catwoman3

(25,642 posts)
27. It does sound familiar, so maybe...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:11 AM
Oct 15

...it is an answer he has used before.

I've never seen him unprepared, no matter the question/topic.

global1

(25,951 posts)
29. I Liken Pete To Barack Obama - When We First Noticed Him At The Dem Conv Where.......
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:34 AM
Oct 15

he gave that inspiring speech.

Listening and watching that - we said the same thing - he will be POTUS someday.

He stood out - just like Pete stands out. He overcame the racism that was considered his biggest drawback. He won two terms as POTUS. He became one of our greatest Presidents.

His speech the other day for Kamala was spot on. He always had that ability to say the right things and relate to Americans. He hasn't lost that.

I put Pete in that same situation. In time - he too will overcome what is considered his biggest drawback - being gay.

He will emerge as a great President as well.

I'm 76y/o and I won't be around to see it - but those that will be here will have something to look forward to. I'm jealous that I'll miss that.

dsp3000

(647 posts)
18. He needs a higher profile job in the next administration. Sec of state or something else. Brilliant dude
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:16 AM
Oct 15
19. This was always the obvious answer
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:33 AM
Oct 15

Why those on the ticket couldn't say something similar, and turn this into a strength of the pro-choice position, was a serious missed opportunity.

msfiddlestix

(7,848 posts)
20. I've never heard anyone other individual nail it the way Buttigeige does, I first heard him say this several years ago.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:48 AM
Oct 15

And I love that he is repeating it, because it is simply the absolute truth and it cannot be rationally, or reasonably argued against in a society that claims to cherish freedom.
Only religious fanatics running roughshod in our political sphere aided and enabled by the media to dictate and amplify the extremist views and perimeters of this issue.

Love Pete!!!


Easterncedar

(3,636 posts)
21. Thanks. I took a big risk and forwarded this
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:49 AM
Oct 15

An old friend hit me about late term abortions in our last conversation some many weeks ago, and my answer was not well organized. I tried to frame this so he and his wife might actually read it with open minds, but I fear they are too far gone. Still, thanks for giving me this good answer to try with.

avebury

(11,080 posts)
24. He would make such an incredible
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:54 AM
Oct 15

President. It makes me so angry that the bigotry of many may prevent him from reaching his full potential.

flying_wahini

(8,043 posts)
25. And of these 1% cases; most of the time the baby is already dead or is expected to die or having a
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 09:58 AM
Oct 15

Life or death emergency and needs to be delivered. Think of a car wreck or heart deformity or other
Issues where they take the baby in order to try and save it. These are NOT “abortions” but a delivery to save the life of the mother and/or the child. They are quick to assume that people are “disposing of an inconvenience “ when it’s just the opposite.
They are couching it like that but most people would choose to do the same thing if it were them.
I just wish once he would mention those cases.

It reminds me of when we all talking about Terry Schiavo and the “pull the plug” argument. Was she brain dead or not? The Republicans argued to “save her life and how could the liberals be so cruel?”
In the meantime Senator Tom DeLay’s Dad was brain dead from an injury and had to be “unplugged”.
Their hypocrisy is never ending.

Oppaloopa

(897 posts)
31. That was a real bad example to us
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:38 AM
Oct 15

Her parents wanted her they would have taken care of her not her abusive husband who remarried in a big church wedding soon after. She was planning on leaving him. I do not think being starved and dehydrated is ok. I was there

Quiet Em

(1,170 posts)
36. I've been in a few of this situations and they are always extremely hard
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:57 AM
Oct 15

Some never want to give up hope or let go.

My opinion is Terri died on February 25, 1990. Modern medicine was able to interfere in that death. But it was not able to do anything about her brain loss. Terri was brain dead, which is legally, dead. Her brain stem still had some function. But that isn't life.

PedroXimenez

(627 posts)
26. my AG here in Texas is so repulsive
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:02 AM
Oct 15

and so corrupt. The idea that he has the power to make these decisions should be a no way for anyone. They should put up ads with his ugly corrupt face and ask if you trust him with this power.

-misanthroptimist

(1,225 posts)
30. That's a damned fine answer!
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:35 AM
Oct 15

I'm still looking in the Constitution for the part where government-forced birth is authorized. I keep coming up with nothing.

samnsara

(18,296 posts)
35. sorry Pete, its NOT a good enough answer or defination to put this to rest....
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 10:55 AM
Oct 15

...abortion in the third trimester is when theres no chance of life. Its not a choice..... its medically NECESSARY to save the mother. No one has ever said 'NO there is no late term abortion' unless its medically necessary with being death imminent. And the decision is usually made very quickly..who has time to 'talk to a priest' when you're bleeding out...somewhere! In a public restroom??? In a car in the hospital parking lot?

and what does LATE term mean anyway? That's just L and D! Do they mean the very last day of 'pre- viability'? or what?

There needs to be a more defiant response and explanation of the support of this very rare and very necessary procedure..

we let them get away with using this ill defined term. My trumper sis used this term in the 90s..they actually believe it happens and we never say NO IT DOES NOT!

BlueSky3

(711 posts)
37. I agree. And I know the question
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:16 AM
Oct 15

was put to Pete, but something about two men discussing what should happen to a woman’s body/life as if she has no part in this decision is disturbing. Pete could have said he trusts women and left it at that.

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,081 posts)
40. .
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:55 AM
Oct 15
its medically NECESSARY to save the mother.
This is not true. Third-trimester abortions can stem from a later fetal diagnosis or even simply an inability to get to a facility that provides abortions at advanced gestational age. They don't necessarily depend on the health of the pregnant person.

..abortion in the third trimester is when theres no chance of life.
That's also not true. Third-trimester abortions often require an injection to stop the fetus' heart before its body is delivered.

No one has ever said 'NO there is no late term abortion' unless its medically necessary with being death imminent. And the decision is usually made very quickly..who has time to 'talk to a priest' when you're bleeding out...somewhere! In a public restroom??? In a car in the hospital parking lot?
Again, third-trimester abortions don't always stem from "imminent death." And third-trimester abortions can take days; they're not necessarily emergent situations.

Zilli

(286 posts)
38. As far as I can see and determine
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 11:26 AM
Oct 15

If a woman cannot deliver a healthy living infant she does not deserve to survive. If you have a catastrophic crisis with your pregnancy and you live in a state where treatment could mean the Dr. goes to prison, you must die to satisfy the dreams of men who hate women..

Figarosmom

(3,250 posts)
41. Yes
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 12:03 PM
Oct 15

I've heard him give this answer before. Its the most thoughtful answer there is from the point of view of the woman's perspective

republianmushroom

(18,123 posts)
42. There has to be unbelievable circumstance for a woman to choose an
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 12:15 PM
Oct 15

abortions at this time, third trimester. It should be her choice and only hers at any time for an abortion.
Tell the church and republicans to shove it.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(26,820 posts)
43. These idiots think that a woman
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 12:26 PM
Oct 15

walks by an abortion clinic two weeks before her due date and decides to abort. No, women don't do that.

And basically, if you're not the woman, her doctor, or her partner, it is no one else's business whatsoever.

lastlib

(24,977 posts)
44. That's how it's done, people! We don't bite on their provocation....
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 02:27 PM
Oct 15

...for emotional reaction! Stick to the heart of the matter as to WHY we make the decision.

IcyPeas

(22,714 posts)
49. **Here's the video WATCH**
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 03:16 PM
Oct 15

It was a Fox town hall 5 years ago. So, 5 years ago... other pro choice Dems should've picked up on this answer.




usaf-vet

(7,012 posts)
50. I hope I live long enough to see him become President "Pete" Buttigieg. Of course with the help of my vote.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 04:29 PM
Oct 15

And if I were still in a U.S.A.F. uniform, salute the Commander In Chief!

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