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JohnSJ

(95,372 posts)
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 05:56 PM 2 hrs ago

Listening to VP Harris on Charlamagne, if the callers are any indication of the views of the African American community,

Last edited Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:05 PM - Edit history (1)

the pollsters and some pundits are full of it when they say that 10% less African Americans are supporting VP Harris then they did President Biden in 2020. Nonsense. There is no way15% or higher of the African Americans will support trump, and VP Harris will get at least as much support President Biden had in 2020, and I believe actually more.

VP Harris is doing terrific on the questions and answers. She is doing a lot of work with these callers correcting the misinformation that has been circulated.

One caller accusing her of playing "identity politics", and she responded absolutely not, and listing that before running for President how she worked to help fight against the discrimination against black Americans on issues such as being refused loans, or paying higher interest, etc.

If there is any undecided African Americans if they should or shouldn't vote, this Charlamagne town hall is going to help.






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Listening to VP Harris on Charlamagne, if the callers are any indication of the views of the African American community, (Original Post) JohnSJ 2 hrs ago OP
Listeners are asking some tough questions, and she's responding well. Silent Type 2 hrs ago #1
Absolutely. Comparing this to the crap trump was doing at the Chicago Economic Conference interview by Bloomberg is JohnSJ 2 hrs ago #3
"Identity politics" is pretty much what all the bigotry-baiting is all about unblock 2 hrs ago #2
and she wasn't baited by it either. She is so comfortable and competent, I really wish some of these undecided voters, JohnSJ 2 hrs ago #4
My view of those interviewed LiberalFighter 2 hrs ago #7
Maybe, but those questions were NOT softball questions, and they voiced real concerns. JohnSJ 1 hr ago #8
It's also in the unfortunate framing of the discussion BaronChocula 36 min ago #25
So who is the person who called in about identity politics? duncang 2 hrs ago #5
It was a caller. The screener of the calls let it through. JohnSJ 2 hrs ago #6
Yeah, but I wouldn't doubt it was someone from his campaign. duncang 1 hr ago #9
Regardless, in my view she was excellent. JohnSJ 1 hr ago #10
TSF's "identity politics" is Fascist Morons. Cha 1 hr ago #13
Of course she is & FO to the Pundits & Pollsters. Cha 1 hr ago #11
Who has claimed Trump would get 95% of the Black vote? onenote 1 hr ago #12
I think that was an oddly worded sentence whopis01 1 hr ago #15
Thanks, I screwed up, I meant 15% not 95%, and I don't believe that number either, but yes I do fell she will get JohnSJ 1 hr ago #18
You are right, that was an error on my part. I meant 15%, and have self-corrected. JohnSJ 1 hr ago #17
Listened to part of it on CNN Deminpenn 1 hr ago #14
Charlemagne is an Ass Wiz Imp 1 hr ago #16
She did do well. I listened on iHeart radio, and Charlemagne was not being an ass on this interview. In fact he was JohnSJ 1 hr ago #19
He said a couple things Deminpenn 1 hr ago #20
I don't know what CT stands for BUT BaronChocula 26 min ago #27
He can be fine at times and then others he's a gigantic asshole. Overall I've never been impressed Wiz Imp 1 hr ago #21
She did do so well. She was very relatable, accountable, intelligent. Nixie 56 min ago #22
I haven't been a big fan of his... appmanga 38 min ago #24
Just finished the replay here. Gods, she is brilliant. The only one who matches her is Buttegieg... Hekate 41 min ago #23
Amazingly smart,but rarely smart ass BattleRow 36 min ago #26
Did she ask CTG ... krkaufman 19 min ago #28
"...the pollsters and some pundits..." are employed by the Trump campaign. dchill 19 min ago #29
JohnSJ, You're saying almost EXACTLY what I said in response to another post about how black men will refuse to vote The_REAL_Ecumenist 55 sec ago #30

JohnSJ

(95,372 posts)
3. Absolutely. Comparing this to the crap trump was doing at the Chicago Economic Conference interview by Bloomberg is
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 06:05 PM
2 hrs ago

night and day. He rambles, doesn't answer questions, lies and is all over the place.

She is so personable, it is hard for me to believe that the country has this many people supporting such a hateful, ugly man.

JohnSJ

(95,372 posts)
4. and she wasn't baited by it either. She is so comfortable and competent, I really wish some of these undecided voters,
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 06:11 PM
2 hrs ago

especially among those supposed "young black men", if this conversation doesn't convince them that VP Harris has got their back, nothing will, but I think they will, and that false talking point that young black men are not enthusiastic about her, I don't buy it.

BaronChocula

(2,366 posts)
25. It's also in the unfortunate framing of the discussion
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:40 PM
36 min ago

When talking about the specific black men in question, people tend to use the general term "black men" when in fact they aren't talking about Eric Holder, or, Derrick Pitts, or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, or Walter Mosely, etc. They're talking about a small portion of the black community which does make a difference in close electoral margins, but the name clumping of "black men" is particularly unhelpful.

duncang

(3,125 posts)
5. So who is the person who called in about identity politics?
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 06:13 PM
2 hrs ago

Was it someone who works for tfg, RNC, ?

whopis01

(3,686 posts)
15. I think that was an oddly worded sentence
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 06:57 PM
1 hr ago

I think the OP was trying to say that for 95% of Black voters there is no way that they would support Trump. Meaning that no more than 5% would support Trump.


People have posted polls claiming that the Black vote will be 78% for Harris (or something similar) and the OP is saying that at least 95% will support her. At least I think that’s what is being said.

JohnSJ

(95,372 posts)
18. Thanks, I screwed up, I meant 15% not 95%, and I don't believe that number either, but yes I do fell she will get
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:08 PM
1 hr ago

more support than Biden did, and it could be quite high.

Deminpenn

(15,942 posts)
14. Listened to part of it on CNN
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 06:54 PM
1 hr ago

There were good questions, but slso a surprising amount of misinformation tinged with a bit of CT from both the host and the callers.

Harris gave detailed and thoughtful answers to the questions I heard. She did well.

Wiz Imp

(881 posts)
16. Charlemagne is an Ass
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:05 PM
1 hr ago

He's sort of a Black Joe Rogan. If Kamala Harris did indeed perform well in this interview/town hall, then it would definitely be a big positive for her - probably reaching some people that otherwise might not be reached

JohnSJ

(95,372 posts)
19. She did do well. I listened on iHeart radio, and Charlemagne was not being an ass on this interview. In fact he was
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:10 PM
1 hr ago

supportive.

Deminpenn

(15,942 posts)
20. He said a couple things
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:15 PM
1 hr ago

that were CT ish. Harris corrected those, but it made me wonder what he says to his listeners.

BaronChocula

(2,366 posts)
27. I don't know what CT stands for BUT
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:50 PM
26 min ago

When he asked his journalistically lazy question "what went wrong with immigration under you guys" the Vice President set him straight immediately. I kind of wish she had informed him that migration over what is now that border has been occurring over thousands of years throughout every presidential administration and it just so happens that crossings from the South began increasing during the previous administration. Outside of catastrophic means, you don't stop human physics on a dime.

Wiz Imp

(881 posts)
21. He can be fine at times and then others he's a gigantic asshole. Overall I've never been impressed
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:16 PM
1 hr ago

I have no interest in listening to him. Anybody who calls himself "tha God" is clearly a narcissist himself.

I'm glad Kamala did well!

Nixie

(17,351 posts)
22. She did do so well. She was very relatable, accountable, intelligent.
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:20 PM
56 min ago

She gave herself a huge advantage by going to that venue and engage those voters or potential voters.

I found Charlemagne to be a very engaging host. Not that I listen to him much to compare, but he seemed fair. It was interesting to listen to all the way around.

appmanga

(849 posts)
24. I haven't been a big fan of his...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:39 PM
38 min ago

...but he's become a lot more serious as his visibility has risen. It seems like he understands he has responsibility he didn't have years ago. There's nothing wrong with tough, fair questions for those who run for office, and especially questions to try to get beyond their talking points.

Hekate

(93,988 posts)
23. Just finished the replay here. Gods, she is brilliant. The only one who matches her is Buttegieg...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:36 PM
41 min ago

You know how we love Buttegieg here at DU? He’s so quick, so bright, has all the info at his fingertips, and never gets derailed?

Same with Kamala.

krkaufman

(13,663 posts)
28. Did she ask CTG ...
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 07:57 PM
19 min ago

… if he thought they’d taken enough questions, and maybe they could just DJ some music tracks for the next 45 minutes?!?

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(778 posts)
30. JohnSJ, You're saying almost EXACTLY what I said in response to another post about how black men will refuse to vote
Tue Oct 15, 2024, 08:16 PM
56 sec ago

for Kamala....because{{SHE'S A GIRL}}! As a member of the African diaspora, there's NO WAY IN HELL that enough black men, women, children or their pets would vote for that walking piece of garbage...NO WAY! Every group has mentally ill members, which would account for any of the knuckle dragging, mouth breathing useful idiots who, for whatever reason, would cast a vote for that crime against the Human Race. WE are not, as a group, STOOPID. Oragina has been open and above board, (probably the ONLY time he's been "honest & above board" about anything) and we believe he's is the abomination he has always been known to be.

Do NOT believe the claims that huge number of black men are breaking for trump, it ain't true. AS a black woman, I'm proud to say that WE are responsible for saving the country from out n'out facism & we will again. We'll vote for Kamala or anyone else who treats the working me, the poor, the elderly, children, the middle class, etc irregardless of the skin colour, the ethnic group they came from, ad nauseum. If a potential candidate stands up for treating people with respect, honour, kindness, etc, as a group, we'll vote for them but NOT for someone who has displayed disdain for us or anyone else, based on their ethnicity, language, religion, skin colour...NEVAH!

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