He has a history of not paying contractors and in fact Laura Cruz-Acosta, communications director for the City of El Paso confirmed Trump has an outstanding balance of $569,204.63 which includes a one-time late fee of $98,787.58 for his February 2019 visit.

The man is clearly a corrupt person with no ethics....and he could become the most powerful person on the planet? It just doesn't make sense. WTF is wrong with Americans?

Ocelot II

(119,697 posts)

10. He did pay Stormy Daniels the first time.

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:12 PM

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walkingman

(8,205 posts)

25. That's my point - he initally paid Stormy to keep the info from the electorate

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:58 PM

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before the 2016 election. The cat is out of the bag - so why would he worry about this prior to the Nov. election? I'm thinking it must involve something else? I don't think it would affect this election at all?

magicarpet

(16,031 posts)

9. The Tangerine Traitor has a lot of stress,...

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:12 PM

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... right now. Melania is ignoring him. So trDUMPee wants to have another quickie raw dog with Stormy Daniels to relieve all his pent up stress. He is willing to pay her $600K this time if she will keep the rendezvous hush hush.

happybird

(5,006 posts)

11. They are judgements against Stormy, right?

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:14 PM

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Can they even offer to accept a reduced amount on a judgement amount decided by the court?

This whole thing is effin’ nuts. And stooopid.

gab13by13

(24,358 posts)

13. The lawyers were negotiating the final amount

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:21 PM

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Which is proper with things such as how much interest. TSF was willing to take less money if Stormy signed an NDA.

Stormy would not agree so a higher settlement was agreed to.

happybird

(5,006 posts)

16. Thank you!

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:26 PM

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tanyev

(44,188 posts)

12. FFS, why? Does he have a Men in Black neuralyzer to mind wipe our memories?

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:21 PM

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Solly Mack

(92,176 posts)

14. Gross. Reckon there's more to tell about mushroom man?

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:24 PM

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gab13by13

(24,358 posts)

15. Maybe Stormy has more information

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:24 PM

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About the affair that she hasn’t revealed, or maybe TSF is just paranoid?

Cha

(303,934 posts)

17. That's what TSF is concerned with NOW!

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:31 PM

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dweller

(24,642 posts)

18. Repeat offender

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:31 PM

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Trying to influence an election
Again
🫤

✌🏻

Liberal In Texas

(14,319 posts)

20. Sure is a shame she owes him money. She lost the defamation suit

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:43 PM

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and owes the attorney fees. If the situation were reversed, and he owed her attorney fees, she would probably never see it. He would just keep appealing and appealing until the end of time.

LetMyPeopleVote

(153,230 posts)

34. Rachel did a go fund me that raised the money to pay off judgement

Reply to Liberal In Texas (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:46 PM

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Stormy no longer owes TFG anything

krawhitham

(4,823 posts)

21. What else could she say?

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 09:52 PM

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Diraven

(931 posts)

22. Why would they even try to launder it?

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:23 PM

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The only reason the first time was illegal is because they tried to hide it by having his company pay it. If he just has his campaign cut her a check it would be sleazy but totally legit.

TommyT139

(571 posts)

29. No, he was offering a discount

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:05 PM

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Trump was offering a discount on the money owed by Stormy Daniels to Trump after a different case. He would essentially have been "paying" her "hush money" from her own bucket of money.

This whole thing is very weird. It will be interesting to see if it is illegal in any way. Mostly it seems like he bought a whole bunch of free advertising about how he is an adulterer who paid an adult actress for sex when his third wife was home tending to their newborn.

Plus she is somehow being shadowbanned on social media, which Rachel et al are looking into.

Turbineguy

(38,195 posts)

23. It's who he is.

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:35 PM

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Always do something crooked. Even if being straight is less effort.

dlk

(12,215 posts)

24. Trump is still awaiting sentencing for his conviction on 34 felonies relating to the first hush money payment!

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:36 PM

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And he’s doing it again. So much for any claims of remorse at his upcoming sentencing hearing.

EndlessWire

(7,159 posts)

38. Oh, he is never going to

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Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:54 AM

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admit he has ever done anything wrong. He has to be able to tell the public something else during his appeal.

Tarzanrock

(392 posts)

26. This isn't going to bode well for the Turd.

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 10:58 PM

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That criminal shithead is about to be "sentenced" for his 34 felony convictions on November 26 related to his "hush money" payments to Stormy -- now the Turd just again tried to "hush" Stormy up. It's not like he has shown any "remorse" whatsoever for his criminal convictions if he is again trying to "hush" Stormy up. Any claims of "remorse" or any plea for "leniency" at the criminal sentencing hearing will just be laughable. Any probabion "reports" or parole "reports" provided to the Court of the Turd's so-called "remorse" will likewise be laughable. This isn't going to bode well for the Turd. It's like an arsonist who is let out on bail prior to sentencing and the arsonist prior to the sentencing tries to burn down a church full of parishoners on a Sunday morning. Judge Merchan will not be fooled.

EndlessWire

(7,159 posts)

39. I thought he was getting sentenced on the 7th.

Reply to Tarzanrock (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 17, 2024, 04:01 AM

21 hrs ago

I can't keep up. Well, at least during the month of November.

I think that J. Merchan will not like this very much. This might even push Trump into prison. Maybe this is the October surprise! I know I'm very surprised. It's like he has no sensibility whatsoever.

dlk

(12,215 posts)

40. Stormy must be privy to much more seriously damaging dirt

Reply to Tarzanrock (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:41 PM

9 hrs ago

Otherwise, why would Trump make such a risky offer, and make it so close to his sentencing hearing?

LetMyPeopleVote

(153,230 posts)

42. ONCE AGAIN tried to launder money through legal fees to elicit Stormy Daniel's silence, and signing an NDA.

Reply to Tarzanrock (Reply #26)

Thu Oct 17, 2024, 10:22 PM

3 hrs ago

Link to tweet

OneGrassRoot

(23,372 posts)

27. Hasn't she told us everything already? n/t

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:00 PM

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Think. Again.

(16,627 posts)

28. Good, I'm glad she turned him down, I hope we see her a LOT on the news shows over the next two weeks.

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:01 PM

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Mr.WeRP

(432 posts)

31. October Surprise!

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:27 PM

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LetMyPeopleVote

(153,230 posts)

32. October Surprise-putting illegal plan in writing

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:32 PM

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Link to tweet

struggle4progress

(119,640 posts)

33. Slow learner

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Skittles

(157,568 posts)

35. gawd is she still grifting

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Wed Oct 16, 2024, 11:48 PM

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

LetMyPeopleVote

(153,230 posts)

36. Trump is again trying to pay Stormy Daniels hush money: MSNBC's Rachel Maddow

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Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:09 AM

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TFG is scared of Stormy

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https://www.rawstory.com/stormy-daniels-2669412796/

New reporting from MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow revealed that Donald Trump is once again attempting to keep Stormy Daniels silent before an election – despite the former president awaiting sentencing on 34 felony charges related to hush money payments before the 2016 election.

“We have just learned, we have reported out – 20 days before this election – we can report that he is once again trying to pay Stormy Daniels to be quiet,” Maddow said Wednesday night as part of a breaking news “special report.”

Maddow, who said she was “a little bit bewildered by it, as well as a little bit shocked” by the bombshell reporting noted that Trump was convicted earlier this year for making hush money payments to Daniels 11 days before the 2016 election.

The MSNBC host said the new information was discovered after Daniels’ appearance on her show, “The Rachel Maddow Show,” when a GoFundMe page setup by Daniels raised enough money to pay off hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees for Trump-related cases that she was still on the hook for......

The MSNBC host said the new information was discovered after Daniels’ appearance on her show, “The Rachel Maddow Show,” when a GoFundMe page setup by Daniels raised enough money to pay off hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees for Trump-related cases that she was still on the hook for.

dalton99a

(83,655 posts)

37. Kick

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LetMyPeopleVote

(153,230 posts)

41. Maddowblog-Trump's legal team tried to keep Stormy Daniels quiet (yes, again)

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Thu Oct 17, 2024, 05:07 PM

8 hrs ago

Ahead of Election Day 2016, Donald Trump tried to silence Stormy Daniels. Ahead of Election Day 2024, incredibly enough, the Republican did it again.

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Shortly before Election Day 2016, Trump tried to silence Stormy Daniels.

Shortly before Election Day 2024, incredibly enough, the Republican did it again.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-legal-team-tried-keep-stormy-daniels-quiet-yes-rcna175887

But as bizarre as this might seem, there’s fresh evidence that, eight years after Trump paid Daniels to be quiet shortly before Election Day 2016, the Republican candidate is also trying to pay Daniels to be quiet shortly before Election Day 2024. As NBC News summarized:

Former President Donald Trump this summer offered a financial incentive to adult film star Stormy Daniels if she agreed to keep quiet about Trump — including about the relationship that became the center of the hush money payments that ended up the subject of a New York criminal trial — ahead of this November’s election, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow reported on Wednesday.

.....Trump’s lawyer did not respond to requests for comment. In a statement to MSNBC, Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung falsely asserted that the documents Maddow referenced “were attained as part of an illegal, foreign hacking attack against President Trump and his team.” The fact is, Daniels' lawyer provided the documents to Rachel.

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“We disagree that a payment of $620,000 would be in full satisfaction of the three judgments,” Trump’s lawyers said in a July letter obtained by Rachel. “However, we can agree to settle these matters for $620,000, provided that your client agrees in writing to make no public or private statements related to any alleged past interactions with President Trump, or defamatory or disparaging statements about him, his businesses and/or any affiliates or his suitability as a candidate for President.”

So to review, Trump wanted $650,000. He was prepared to accept $620,000 alongside a signed NDA.

When Daniels balked, Trump agreed to accept $635,000 — and he got $627,500, without an NDA.

So what’s the bottom line? As Rachel summarized on the show, “The Republican nominee for president, Donald Trump, is currently awaiting sentencing for crimes related to a secret hush-money payment he made to porn star Stormy Daniels, just before the 2016 election, to keep her from talking about him — and specifically about having sex with him.

“And now just before the 2024 election, Trump has once again demanded that Stormy Daniels sign on to an agreement not to talk about him, offering to knock thousands of dollars off her bill if she did. Maybe this time, Trump has learned his lesson about not laundering this through his business, but he really is basically trying to do the same thing again.”

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