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Trump cancels NRA rally. (Original Post) Kingofalldems 10 hrs ago OP
NRA is totally friendly territory. He must be completely FUBAR. Girard442 10 hrs ago #1
Something going on for sure. Kingofalldems 10 hrs ago #2
His campaign can't hide his cognitive decline any more wnylib 9 hrs ago #41
Agree 100%! ShazzieB 9 hrs ago #45
As you said, "Beware of Vance, Trump's replacement." It may have already happened in reality erronis 9 hrs ago #48
Beware of Vance indeed.... Atreus 9 hrs ago #49
Not just your opinion. Many people who have been wnylib 8 hrs ago #60
The scene in The Godfather where the Don coprolite 8 hrs ago #62
I remember that from the Untouchables... reACTIONary 39 min ago #95
didn't they just elect an even nastier than usual person for president of the NRA? 4catsmom 2 hrs ago #90
Before we go getting all worked up over this, he still has at least two other appearances scheduled..... groundloop 8 hrs ago #58
Do we have an office pool going as to whether he shows for either? Hekate 8 hrs ago #75
Not a big college town Johonny 10 hrs ago #3
"They were still booing him when we came on stage" OC_Lars 10 hrs ago #4
The review was just two words: "Shit Sandwich". LudwigPastorius 10 hrs ago #20
They can't say that!!! yardwork 9 hrs ago #29
Every line in this movie OC_Lars 8 hrs ago #52
I just love that movie. yardwork 8 hrs ago #54
Can I ask a practical question... is he doing Stonehenge tonight? yardwork 10 hrs ago #17
I hope they play "Lick My Love Pump." Sky Jewels 4 hrs ago #88
Making a big thing out of it would have been a good idea . . . hatrack 1 hr ago #94
Ha! Perfect Bristlecone 1 hr ago #93
I have a feeling Faux pas 10 hrs ago #5
?? NJCher 10 hrs ago #7
The state election officials who are Trumpers and will work on his behalf to rig elections. nature-lover 9 hrs ago #22
Exactly Iwasthere 9 hrs ago #34
That's rather telling. They keep underscoring how they know they can't win fair 'n' square. calimary 9 hrs ago #39
A cure for the angst is to watch Nicolle Wallace gab13by13 9 hrs ago #42
Thanks for the tip, Gab! Hekate 7 hrs ago #81
I worry about that too. Escape 9 hrs ago #46
Yes! Faux pas 8 hrs ago #59
Shitler also reminded his flying monkeys to vote on January 5th. OMGWTF 6 hrs ago #84
I'll spot him some points for not saying January 6 Skittles 5 hrs ago #85
Your pessism is understandable but unnecessary. ShazzieB 8 hrs ago #64
I think that Trump is finally incapable of giving a speech. MineralMan 10 hrs ago #6
PILE ON! NCDem47 10 hrs ago #9
And he seemed totally spaced out with his 39-minute music fest instead of finishing the rally. Lonestarblue 9 hrs ago #28
And that was a hand-picked friendly crowd. yardwork 9 hrs ago #31
Yes. I caught a few minutes of his Atlanta speech a few evenings ago. John1956PA 9 hrs ago #37
No question. ShazzieB 8 hrs ago #68
He also cancelled NBC interview so this is #4 Bev54 10 hrs ago #8
The air has leaked out of his inflated head and wnylib 8 hrs ago #53
The NRA should be cancelled too. Gaytano70 10 hrs ago #10
trump and interviews pamdb 10 hrs ago #11
I think they would begin the 25th Amendment Island Blue 10 hrs ago #14
I sense that a deal has been made. usonian 10 hrs ago #16
People misunderstand the 25th. zipplewrath 8 hrs ago #65
I think that is the plan. Katinfl 10 hrs ago #18
He could resign notemason 8 hrs ago #72
I don't think he knows where he is or what he's doing half the time. They seem to be putting him out Vinca 10 hrs ago #12
He doesn't know where he is, and doesn't care... JoseBalow 8 hrs ago #74
I think his recent public appearances/utterances/weird behavior are shedding votes. OAITW r.2.0 10 hrs ago #13
I'm ready for the final scene with the Luger and a pill ArkansasDemocrat1 8 hrs ago #67
Oh, please, please, please, let him be shedding votes. ShazzieB 8 hrs ago #71
C'mon, donnie.... rubbersole 10 hrs ago #15
Isn't Trump late for jail? Emile 10 hrs ago #19
As Jimmy Kimmel said, Wednesdays 9 hrs ago #24
Old...weak...no stamina... LudwigPastorius 9 hrs ago #21
Maybe he's getting his affairs in order Gary 50 9 hrs ago #23
He'll never go to prison. He'll flee first. Demobrat 8 hrs ago #55
"Scheduling conflict" will be easy to check up on. robleb 9 hrs ago #25
He's having trouble getting a camouflage tutu for his dance performance there. Ping Tung 9 hrs ago #26
Chickenman!!! moondust 9 hrs ago #27
Could it possibly be due to "the enemy within"? KY_EnviroGuy 9 hrs ago #30
Hmm, he's speaking to the Alfred E Smith dinner tonight in NY. LauraInLA 9 hrs ago #32
He'd be better off at the Alfred E. Neuman dinner. cloudbase 9 hrs ago #36
.... LauraInLA 5 hrs ago #86
BOOM! Prof. Toru Tanaka 2 hrs ago #92
He's a trainwreck and they can't hide it anymore . . . . SarcasticSatyr 9 hrs ago #33
This guy is gun shy! BattleRow 9 hrs ago #35
I think his comrades are finally influencing him..... Lovie777 9 hrs ago #38
he's arranging his transportation to ... TrunKated 9 hrs ago #40
He knows what they all look like and he is chickenshitscared again. There is a point there. twodogsbarking 9 hrs ago #43
The 22nd is 5 days away. gab13by13 9 hrs ago #44
Wouldn't be the first time. usonian 8 hrs ago #73
Something is seriously wrong in the Trump campaign if he misses a guaranteed hug-fest. Martin68 9 hrs ago #47
But, but, I thought he said people needed guns for entertainment and such? Solly Mack 9 hrs ago #50
He's gotten gun shy after two MAGAs wanted to martyr him. Besides, he's only got one more ear. marble falls 9 hrs ago #51
Aren't NRA events gun-free zones? Wounded Bear 8 hrs ago #56
Maybe he is still just cognizant enough to remember DFW 8 hrs ago #57
To me, that seems NOT outside the realm of possibility. LudwigPastorius 7 hrs ago #80
Psyops SilasSouleII 19 min ago #98
oh the irony considering the NRA yobrault1 8 hrs ago #61
Meaning the power play fallout from the Baier interview has failed bucolic_frolic 8 hrs ago #63
I love this!!! YAY!!! liberalla 8 hrs ago #66
Leaked transcript from his prepared speech. "I have Doodley 8 hrs ago #69
Aren't *all* his rallies NRA rallies? Coexist 8 hrs ago #70
I have an idea: send Vance in for everything. Just put that slimy sucker on full display... Hekate 8 hrs ago #76
My guess says any appearances will be early in the day and strictly controlled Warpy 8 hrs ago #77
I strongly suspect Needy Amin had a health scare peppertree 8 hrs ago #78
Peepaw's dementia is showing, his campaign knows it 634-5789 8 hrs ago #79
He/they're keepimg him underwraps until after the election. brush 7 hrs ago #82
As he himself might put it: "HE CHOKED!" peppertree 7 hrs ago #83
was the cognitive dissonance too much? ecstatic 5 hrs ago #87
Health problems? Lunabell 2 hrs ago #89
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (nt) Paladin 2 hrs ago #91
Harris Walz campaign want to know Is he okay? LetMyPeopleVote 23 min ago #96
Harris Walz campaign want to know Is he okay? LetMyPeopleVote 22 min ago #97

wnylib

(23,947 posts)
41. His campaign can't hide his cognitive decline any more
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:04 PM
9 hrs ago

so they are removing him from the public.

They tried to guide him through the Oaks, PA "town hall meeting" by providing the Q & A format to keep him from rambling too far off topic. They had Gov. Noem on hand to lead him through the process, continually calling him "Sir" and reminding him of each pre planned step in the town hall meeting as they went along. She was like a recreational therapist at a home for Alzheimer patients.

And he still went bonkers, on stage, in spite of all their precautions and Noem's obvious attempts to lead him around. They can't afford to take more chances like that so close to election day.

I think that his decline is two pronged. One is the devastating effect on him of having his narcissistic gimmicks exposed and crushed through his legal problems and the Harris/Walz campaign. The other is a genetic inheritance of his father's dementia. He's being hit with a double whammy. Couldn't happen to a more deserving person.

Mentally, Trump is burned out toast.

Beware of Vance, Trump's replacement.

erronis

(16,651 posts)
48. As you said, "Beware of Vance, Trump's replacement." It may have already happened in reality
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:17 PM
9 hrs ago

with the 25th Amendment there to make it all look legal.

Wonder if they've picked out trump's resting spot. Perhaps somewhere near Ivana? Trump National Golf Club, Bedminster, New Jersey, U.S., 40.6536°N 74.6969°W

Atreus

(38 posts)
49. Beware of Vance indeed....
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:17 PM
9 hrs ago

I'm beginning to suspect that the Big Oaf is being limped to the finish line...then, should the worst case come to fruition and as has been the plan for some time now, Vance and Co. will be 25th Amendmenting the Dufus. Voila, mission successful.

Just my opinion of course.

wnylib

(23,947 posts)
60. Not just your opinion. Many people who have been
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:42 PM
8 hrs ago

watching the Trump decline and observing Vance would agree with you, from pundits and political strategists to ird8nary citizens.

It is no longer an opinion. It is now a dem9bstrated fact that Trump is no longer functioning so Vance is next in line to take over.

coprolite

(295 posts)
62. The scene in The Godfather where the Don
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:45 PM
8 hrs ago

Last edited Thu Oct 17, 2024, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)

kills the other mob bosses with the baseball bat at the dinner table, comes to mind when people suggest that JD should use of the 25 amendment.

reACTIONary

(5,949 posts)
95. I remember that from the Untouchables...
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 10:45 PM
39 min ago

... but I never saw the godfather, so it might have been in that also.

4catsmom

(127 posts)
90. didn't they just elect an even nastier than usual person for president of the NRA?
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 09:05 PM
2 hrs ago

maybe trump's afraid of him

groundloop

(12,103 posts)
58. Before we go getting all worked up over this, he still has at least two other appearances scheduled.....
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:37 PM
8 hrs ago

One in Latrobe, PA on Oct 19th and another in Duluth, GA at a Turning Point PAC rally.

Hekate

(94,018 posts)
75. Do we have an office pool going as to whether he shows for either?
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:09 PM
8 hrs ago

Meanwhile, Kamala is blanketing the airwaves and hitting every state needed.

OC_Lars

(30 posts)
52. Every line in this movie
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:30 PM
8 hrs ago

is a gift. This scene where they are doing the reviews, it is clear they are just having a blast filming this

yardwork

(63,630 posts)
17. Can I ask a practical question... is he doing Stonehenge tonight?
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:17 PM
10 hrs ago

Love your Spinal Tap reference!

Faux pas

(15,149 posts)
5. I have a feeling
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:38 PM
10 hrs ago

that it doesn't matter what he does because all his state minions are going to eff us all.

Iwasthere

(3,332 posts)
34. Exactly
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:41 PM
9 hrs ago

I'm still worried about the shenanigans they'll pull. There's no low they won't consider. An absolutely overwhelming margin is what we need. Is the machinery safe?

calimary

(83,770 posts)
39. That's rather telling. They keep underscoring how they know they can't win fair 'n' square.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:54 PM
9 hrs ago

They can only “win” if they cheat.

gab13by13

(24,358 posts)
42. A cure for the angst is to watch Nicolle Wallace
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:04 PM
9 hrs ago

every Wednesday she has on Marc Elias. Yesterday Elias explained how RNC co-chair has filed over 100 lawsuits this year and his law firm is beating them down.

Best move Kamala made was hiring his law firm. Elias said your vote will count, he has an army of lawyers ready to stop the ratfucking.

Maybe even the milquetoast will help out?

Go in the msnbc archives and watch yesterday's segment with Elias.

Escape

(25 posts)
46. I worry about that too.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:14 PM
9 hrs ago

He smugly slept through his felony trial. His campaign schedule has become lax and laid back. He frequently cancels events. Earlier this week he swayed, smirked and stumbled for 39 minutes in front of a group of people who deserved every minute of it.

Apparently, in contentious situations, he sometimes shits his pants to dissuade or unnerve his opponents. Not unlike a skunk.

A few weeks ago he was telling his Koolaid zombies that they "didn't really need to vote."

He seems to think that this "election thing" that happens on November 5th is not really that important. He appears to be very confident that "his people", foreign and domestic, have it all in the bag for him.


Faux pas

(15,149 posts)
59. Yes!
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:41 PM
8 hrs ago

Thank you for highlighting more of his suspicious behaviors. There's just so much and it never ends. I felt that we were cooked when he came down that escalator and was surrounded by paid "supporters".

ShazzieB

(18,317 posts)
64. Your pessism is understandable but unnecessary.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:46 PM
8 hrs ago

This country learned a few things from the last election. Our side has lawyers all over this stuff!

Last time, Uncle Sam got caught with his pants down, but this time everyone has been expecting and preparing for these hijinks.

The fact that there's a non election denier (i,e. Democrat) in the White House helps a lot, too. We'll get through this.

MineralMan

(147,230 posts)
6. I think that Trump is finally incapable of giving a speech.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:39 PM
10 hrs ago

He hasn't been doing them well for some time, and I believe he is not going to give any more of them before the election.

He's done. Finished. Out of it.

Spread the word.

NCDem47

(2,505 posts)
9. PILE ON!
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 12:54 PM
10 hrs ago

Real momentum going on to get Trump out of the public eye. Where will the MSM be on THAT?!?!

Lonestarblue

(11,446 posts)
28. And he seemed totally spaced out with his 39-minute music fest instead of finishing the rally.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:34 PM
9 hrs ago

I suspect he totally lost track and could not think of what he was supposed to be saying so just played music and left.

John1956PA

(3,250 posts)
37. Yes. I caught a few minutes of his Atlanta speech a few evenings ago.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:51 PM
9 hrs ago

He stated repititiously that he would bring more business to Georgia than the state would be able to handle. He insultingly lied about our candidate's record in San Francisco. He did the same regarding the current governor of California with respect to that state. When he had exhausted himself of spewing insults, he switched on a video presentation of clips from our candidate. I think that the audio of most of those clips was altered or AI-generated.

I do not believe he is capable of delivering a coherent speech on the order of what is required in addressing a crowd at a special-interest convention.

ShazzieB

(18,317 posts)
68. No question.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:55 PM
8 hrs ago

At best, he's become disastrously unreliable. They know their best bet is to keep him hidden away from now on.

wnylib

(23,947 posts)
53. The air has leaked out of his inflated head and
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:34 PM
8 hrs ago

there is nothing left in it for his campaign to keep it looking functional.

The puppet strings that they were using to keep his mindless hulk propped up and looking normal are too frayed to safely operate them any more.

The Adderall and various drug cocktails that they were using to recharge his operating battery have shorted out and no longer work because the battery is too depleted to get a useful spark out of it.

Trump as a (sort of) human being is no longer a threat. But his legacy and the memory of him in the minds of his devoted ones are still a grave problem for the country. Vance, Thiel, and the members of Congress who united around him are the threats now. They will invoke the sanctity of Trump as the semi divine MAGA leader, like Rs did in the past with St. Ronnie of the Trickle Down Cathedral.



pamdb

(1,354 posts)
11. trump and interviews
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:04 PM
10 hrs ago

You know, I'm getting to the point where I'm more worried about chubby cheeks than just trump. I really am beginning to think that if (god forbid) trumps does get in, I would only give him a year before chubby cheeks and holy roller Mike Johnson, move to use the 25th amendment and get rid of him so chubby cheeks can become president.

Island Blue

(6,128 posts)
14. I think they would begin the 25th Amendment
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:10 PM
10 hrs ago

process immediately after Inauguration Day if (heaven forbid) he gets elected. It seems like that’s been the Heritage Foundation’s plan all along.

usonian

(12,952 posts)
16. I sense that a deal has been made.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:16 PM
10 hrs ago

Vance agrees to The Big Lie, to assuage the little baby's ego, and when, not if (WHICH WE WILL PREVENT) Dump steps down, Vance pardons him.

zipplewrath

(16,676 posts)
65. People misunderstand the 25th.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:52 PM
8 hrs ago

It's not some back door impeachment. Ultimately the Senate still has to remove him from office. You still have to believe that 2/3 of the Senate is in on the plan. (well, 16 GQPers any way).

Katinfl

(239 posts)
18. I think that is the plan.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:19 PM
10 hrs ago

Vance is being groomed to take over. Get trump elected, 25th amendment him and Vance takes over. Of course, that 25th amendment thing may not be that easy to accomplish being it takes 2/3.

Vinca

(50,837 posts)
12. I don't think he knows where he is or what he's doing half the time. They seem to be putting him out
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:06 PM
10 hrs ago

there on a day-to-day basis depending on his level of lucidity.

OAITW r.2.0

(27,813 posts)
13. I think his recent public appearances/utterances/weird behavior are shedding votes.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:07 PM
10 hrs ago

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The only way to stop the hemorrhaging is to head for the bunker.

rubbersole

(8,221 posts)
15. C'mon, donnie....
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:14 PM
10 hrs ago

..your devoted magats will hang on every word. Oops, I didn't mean to say 'hang'. I meant 'love'. J6 love. Let's just listen to music 🎶...

LudwigPastorius

(10,525 posts)
21. Old...weak...no stamina...
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:25 PM
9 hrs ago

(…not to mention the utterly insane logorrhea that he expels as “answers” to questions.)

robleb

(233 posts)
25. "Scheduling conflict" will be easy to check up on.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:29 PM
9 hrs ago

Where else will he be? Zoomba class? Spelling Bee?
Taking a cognitive test?
Calling Putin?

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,588 posts)
30. Could it possibly be due to "the enemy within"?
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:35 PM
9 hrs ago

Never dreamed I would see TFG get stage fright.....

Probably the enemy within his own head (and diaper).......

Lovie777

(14,427 posts)
38. I think his comrades are finally influencing him.....
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 01:51 PM
9 hrs ago

plus they know he’s mentally unfit as well as unhealthy. They are trying to keep him in contention because it’s getting louder that he’s not well.

Martin68

(24,324 posts)
47. Something is seriously wrong in the Trump campaign if he misses a guaranteed hug-fest.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:17 PM
9 hrs ago

I'm looking forward to hearing som e really good news about Trump's state of the bunion.

Solly Mack

(92,176 posts)
50. But, but, I thought he said people needed guns for entertainment and such?
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:18 PM
9 hrs ago

Did he not want to be the entertainment at the NRA Rally?

DFW

(56,239 posts)
57. Maybe he is still just cognizant enough to remember
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:37 PM
8 hrs ago

"What is the NRA about, and weren't those things used to try to shoot me?"

LudwigPastorius

(10,525 posts)
80. To me, that seems NOT outside the realm of possibility.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:25 PM
7 hrs ago

Maybe he's having an about face on gun rights, but wants to hide it until after the election.

Even if it's not true, it would certainly make for a good whisper campaign aimed at his followers.

yobrault1

(133 posts)
61. oh the irony considering the NRA
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:45 PM
8 hrs ago

don’t allow any guns in their rallies so he should be relatively safe compared to almost anywhere else in the USA.

bucolic_frolic

(46,288 posts)
63. Meaning the power play fallout from the Baier interview has failed
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:45 PM
8 hrs ago

and the rush to judgment with Trump as the Alpha Male candidate is off for today. No one in TrumpLandia knows what's next and they need a few days to manufacture another end run around democracy.

Doodley

(10,087 posts)
69. Leaked transcript from his prepared speech. "I have
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:59 PM
8 hrs ago

done more than any other president in the history of America to defend gun rights. More Americans had guns when I was president than the world has ever known. But they want to take away your guns and take away your freedom to defend yourself, and yet they have tried to take me out three times and counting. I urge all gun owners to fight, fight, fight for free elections without election interference."

Coexist

(25,688 posts)
70. Aren't *all* his rallies NRA rallies?
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 02:59 PM
8 hrs ago

On a serious note, I wonder if this is due to the Iran threats against him? Maybe they've been stepped up because of Yahya?

I have no idea why Iran hates him so much -can anyone here help with that?

Never mind - used the google
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/25/nx-s1-5126621/what-we-know-about-irans-alleged-threats-to-assassinate-trump

LUCAS: Well, we don't really have to speculate as to why, and that's because Iranian officials have said quite openly that they want to avenge the death of an Iranian general who was killed during the Trump administration. That's General Qassem Soleimani. He's an almost mythic figure in Iran, and the U.S. killed him in a drone strike in Baghdad in January of 2020, when Trump was still in office.

Hekate

(94,018 posts)
76. I have an idea: send Vance in for everything. Just put that slimy sucker on full display...
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:12 PM
8 hrs ago

And if Trump still thinks he should be onstage, make it a two-fer. That should be entertaining.

Warpy

(113,000 posts)
77. My guess says any appearances will be early in the day and strictly controlled
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:15 PM
8 hrs ago

with no opportunities for ad libbing. He's really been making a serious fool of himself, convincing everybody but the abysmally stupid that he's totally lost the plot.

TheGOP needs to find another face in the crowd.

peppertree

(22,764 posts)
78. I strongly suspect Needy Amin had a health scare
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:17 PM
8 hrs ago

That pig from hell has one foot in the grave, so it could be almost anything - but probably something cardiovascular.

634-5789

(4,247 posts)
79. Peepaw's dementia is showing, his campaign knows it
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:23 PM
8 hrs ago

Boy, if we just had another 2-3 months, there would be a 100% breakdown for Peepaw. As is, he's shutting the door on public appearances. Breaks my heart to see this.

brush

(56,830 posts)
82. He/they're keepimg him underwraps until after the election.
Thu Oct 17, 2024, 03:56 PM
7 hrs ago

From the fiascos of his recent appearances and non-appearances, he's in no shape to make appearances.

The Q&A where he was supposed to interact with the crowd but instead decided to do 39 minutes of swaying and bopping to music, leaving the host and everyone eose there wondering what to do and what the hell was he doing?

Then he just left.

That has to be the end of it. His handlers know his mental decline is near complete and he can't be allowed to appear before audience except maybe a FOX hand-picked audience.

He's finished for the campaign.

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