But the issue you raise is an important one.

Legal notifications and health dangers. Since they think they know better what should be done .

Depending on his age, he'd likely be guilty of statutory rape. He obviously has to be held accountable.

Actually, a lot of people should be held accountable, starting with whoever crafted this asinine law.

They shouldn't have to worry about jail to fo their job.

I assume many doctors will move and health care quality will decline.

My brother is a doctor in western Montana and had worked in Idaho some time back. Although he is largely retired, he keeps tabs on things. As of last May, he said that 4 of the 5 perinatologists (those docs who care for preemies) had left the state. The one remaining was in Boise and was considering leaving. Many of the state's OB units had closed and women were having to drive to neighboring states for OB care, or depend on lay midwives. They've returned to the 1850s in many respects.

Note to women: stay the hell out of Idaho. To men: not a smart place to be either!

They manage medically complicated pregnancies. The Neonatologists care for newborns.

The damage these laws do to the medical profession lead directly to poor outcomes for patients and their babies, as there may soon be no physicians in the area qualified to handle complex pregnancies and deliveries (or ANY pregnancies and deliveries). It is frightening and unconscionable.

HOWEVER-- the GOP zealots don't GAF. It means nothing to them when women and their babies die, as long as they can keep women under their boots.

It took years to create the illusion for voters that this is a political issue. It is not and never has been. They have created a pool of voters for whom this is the only issue that draws them to the polls and causes them to vote for Republicans. The voters consider this a righteous issue in part because politicians joined with religious fanatics to do so. Yes, they want women under the boot, but they will do anything to get votes-kill women, keep eligible voters from casting their vote, collude with foreign powers. I can’t believe people have blinders on about any of this.

but we had an extended family member decide to go to Montana 3 weeks before her due date with first baby.
They were going to stay 2 weeks in an RV for husband’s work.
Knocked me speechless.

I would only do this with an escape plan, up to and including a refundable plane ticket out of Montana.

His mother was so concerned that she went with them.

It depends on where you are. It's IDAHO that's a fucking disaster area and reverting to the 1850s. If theyr'e within an hour of a city of any size in Montana (Helena, Bozeman, Missoula, for example) they'll be fine.

I figured out in the sticks with the oil wells.

about depending on lay midwives took me immediately to "Educated" by Tara Westover.

What has happened in regard to our bodies is chilling.

It's bad enough this 13 year old girl in an obviously dis-functional family was pregnant, but the state of Idaho has created a nightmare scenario that makes it hard for her to get the health care she needs at this point in her pregnancy.
Health care professionals should not have to worry about whether or not they will be arrested if they treat a young girl who is probably going into labor.

and currently in juvenile detention.

That young woman has been failed by her parents, and now the state. No 13 year old should be pregnant or parenting an infant . She’s lost her teenage years, and vulnerable to poverty unless she decides otherwise.

What YOU said, my friend. NO 13-year-old should be pregnant OR having to parent an infant! NOT A SINGLE ONE.

Societies are better when the average of first birth is over 19 years old. The body is still growing and maturing through the teens.

Getting out of it's going to be a real challenge unless she gets a massive amount of help.

when girls and women are saddled with children they don’t want and can’t afford, they are kept in poverty and without a voice. They have no way to participate in civic life, allowing the PTB to continue to stay in power.

Don't let them leave until the child is treated. They want to run people's lives to remain in office, so be it.

If a woman dies due to these laws arrest every legislator who voted for them on murder charges

If I was a doctor I would treat that poor girl and ask questions later. Jesus Christ!

physicians can be charged with a felony if they do so, effectively ending their careers.

The choice then becomes felony vs malpractice. It is unconscionable.

It could also still cost them their job.

harming a patient and losing my career. Whether a jury would find in my favor or not, the thought of purposefully harming a patient by withholding care that could send me to prison is unconscionable.

Good god they really have set progress back a 100 years..

She could have become pregnant at age 12, and the fact that they aren't searching for a potential criminal who could have impregnated a minor is appalling. (Though for all we know, it could have been a 13-year old boy).

If it’s a 13 yo boy/consensual makes you wonder if Idaho has abstinence only type of sex ed. I have no idea what kind of sex ed they have and how early it starts, but clearly not early enough (if it is not rape by an older adult but consensual sex with another child).

push their kids into dating and relationships when they should be focusing on their studies instead?

Kids don't even KNOW the concept of "consent." They don't have the capability to make rational decisions. Besides coercion, including rape, can happen with teens.

I shouldn’t have used the word “consensual”. At 13, they don’t really know wth they are doing even without force or rape. Which is all the more reason why comprehensive sex ed would help.

policies so she can be declared an emancipated minor (=act as an adult) to make her own medical decisions.

until it is small enough to fit into the womb.

until it's tight when it fits around your neck

determination to control women.

from the Washington Post article:

Lamenting that teen births were down. Abstinence isn't going to work. Teenage hormones raging and no thoughts past now. I lived in republican controlled area. Went to a strict evangelical church and not one of the teens in the Bible study was a virgin.

with the caption:

it's absolutely terrible.

Gaia’s revenge.

There's so much wrong with this girl's environment. She doesn't appear to have had a stable home at any point in her life. Those responsible for her are evidently unable to provide anything.

And it doesn't look like CPS, or whatever it's equivalent in Idaho, has done much to help her.

I hope her larger community is able to rally around her. She needs it.

don't live in a situation where there is good, close parental supervision get pregnant. What we should do is be appalled that there is no support for youngsters who find themselves in that situation. That is where we are failing that girl. Getting pregnant is easy. Dealing with it is hard.

Plus, even kids with good, close parental supervision get pregnant sometimes. We need to deal with realities and help kids who need help. Wringing our hands over them getting pregnant isn't helping. They need real help with dealing with what is actually happening.