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applegrove

(122,373 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:17 PM 10 hrs ago

Trump's Plans Could Exempt 93 Million from Paying Taxes

Trump’s Plans Could Exempt 93 Million from Paying Taxes

October 21, 2024 at 4:10 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 152 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2024/10/21/trumps-plans-could-exempt-93-million-from-paying-taxes/

"SNIP............

“Donald Trump’s tax reform ideas could leave roughly 93.2 million Americans, or just under half of the U.S. electorate, off the hook for at least part of their income taxes,” CNBC reports.

“Trump has proposed eliminating taxes on tips and Social Security benefits, and has also said he would think about exemptions for firefighters, police and military personnel.”

“These exemptions are part of Trump’s larger vision to transition away from the income tax system and replace it with the revenue he expects to generate from his hardline tariff proposals.”

Wall Street Journal: We could tax like it’s 1899.

.............SNIP"

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Trump's Plans Could Exempt 93 Million from Paying Taxes (Original Post) applegrove 10 hrs ago OP
The convicted felon lies a lot. republianmushroom 10 hrs ago #1
Hmmm, ok I'll bite... what exactly is the counting about? 😂 Jmb 4 Harris-Walz 7 hrs ago #18
A tariff is a tax. Just imagine tariff exemptions for luxury goods but not daily goods for ordinary people. keithbvadu2 10 hrs ago #2
What happens when the imports fall and the rest of Klarkashton 10 hrs ago #3
Would You Buy A Used Car From This Man?..... global1 10 hrs ago #4
It will never happen. If they are stupid enough to think they won't pay taxes I have a bridge. Autumn 10 hrs ago #5
That is exactly what would happen!!! Stargazer99 4 hrs ago #30
Although he lies constantly, his "pledge" to remove taxes on tips, overtime, and Social Security benefits is a lie we Silent Type 10 hrs ago #6
What might Trump's criteria be? C_U_L8R 9 hrs ago #7
Up until 1913... appmanga 9 hrs ago #8
Are you in favor of any tariffs? former9thward 8 hrs ago #12
Yes, under very specific circumstances... appmanga 8 hrs ago #14
Biden has a tariff on pickup trucks from the EU. former9thward 8 hrs ago #16
Yes, it's fair and American consumers who buy the trucks are paying for the tariff. appmanga 7 hrs ago #17
Pickup trucks are an emerging market? former9thward 5 hrs ago #19
EVs dude. C'mon... (nt) appmanga 5 hrs ago #20
Why are you trying to dodge? former9thward 5 hrs ago #21
Asked and answered... appmanga 5 hrs ago #24
You never answered. former9thward 5 hrs ago #26
Read it again... appmanga 5 hrs ago #27
Maybe you should do a cut and paste. former9thward 5 hrs ago #28
Maybe you'd be happier VMA131Marine 4 hrs ago #29
Fair suggestion. marble falls 4 hrs ago #31
He answered. Consumers pay for tariffs. They're meant to discouraged consumers who don't realize ... marble falls 4 hrs ago #32
I'll answer. Yes, they're fair Blue_Roses 2 min ago #37
This are the rantings of a moron, not plans. Bev54 9 hrs ago #9
I didn't realize there were that many millionaires in this country. Wonder Why 9 hrs ago #10
Per capita, only Australia and Switzerland have more ... marble falls 4 hrs ago #33
Sure...he'll eliminate the taxes on social security payments by eliminating social security payments. pecosbob 8 hrs ago #11
He also said everyone will get health insurance. N/t usregimechange 8 hrs ago #13
Don't forgot no tax on Overtime pay... Jmb 4 Harris-Walz 8 hrs ago #15
This is a pre-curser to the rights newdayneeded 3 hrs ago #35
Completely insane Prairie Gates 5 hrs ago #22
Firefighters, police & military - Trump thinks these are macho male jobs. Nurses & teachers Maru Kitteh 5 hrs ago #23
That's how many jobs his plans will kill. GoCubsGo 5 hrs ago #25
Tariffs-- huge price increases andym 4 hrs ago #34
The Harris campaign needs to address this head on by making it clear to voters what she would do. MichMan 3 hrs ago #36

keithbvadu2

(39,650 posts)
2. A tariff is a tax. Just imagine tariff exemptions for luxury goods but not daily goods for ordinary people.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:26 PM
10 hrs ago

global1

(25,826 posts)
4. Would You Buy A Used Car From This Man?.....
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:28 PM
10 hrs ago

'proposed' and 'would think about'

'concept of a plan'

I wouldn't believe him!!!!!

Autumn

(45,920 posts)
5. It will never happen. If they are stupid enough to think they won't pay taxes I have a bridge.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:33 PM
10 hrs ago

Their taxes will double while the wealthy will get more tax breaks.

Silent Type

(6,000 posts)
6. Although he lies constantly, his "pledge" to remove taxes on tips, overtime, and Social Security benefits is a lie we
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:34 PM
10 hrs ago

need to counter in someway. It would not be that expensive considering the lower 50th Percentile pay only about 2.5% of Federal income taxes. https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/summary-latest-federal-income-tax-data-2023-update/

I know a number of servers and factory/warehouse/factory/etc workers who like that "pledge." Most probably already lean trump because I'm in a rube red area. And about 40 to 50% of retirees do pay tax on a portion of their benefits.

appmanga

(873 posts)
8. Up until 1913...
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 05:48 PM
9 hrs ago

...most of the taxes collected in this country were excise taxes. Excise taxes are taxes imposed on a specific good or activity and are commonly levied on cigarettes, alcoholic beverages, soda, gasoline, insurance premiums, amusement activities, and betting. Federal dependence on excise taxes is down significantly since 1950, when almost 20 percent of federal tax collections were from excise taxes. Today, excise taxes only make up about 3 percent of federal collections. Excise taxes are regressive, meaning those with the lower incomes pay the same rate as the richest people in this country and this is part of the reason they fell out of favor.

Tariffs are essentially the same as excise taxes except they're place on imported goods. Tariffs aren't paid by the country of origin; they're paid by the consumer. Like excise taxes, tariffs are not only regressive, but they're often answered with retaliatory levies from other countries and make American exports more expensive and, therefore, unattractive. Trump's tariffs on agricultural exports did so much harm to American farmers, he wound up increasing government aid to them to quell the political upset. Tariffs have their place, but as a wholesale economic strategy, they're bad. It was tariffs that exacerbated the Great Depression, plunging the American (and world) economy into an abyss from which it took years (and government deficit spending on a world war) to rebound from.

Most people today have no idea of what tariffs are, or how they work so, thus, may not understand why they won't only not make our economy better, but will lead to Americans paying more for their imported goods which include cars, electric appliances, and clothes.

https://taxfoundation.org/taxedu/glossary/excise-tax/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2020/01/21/trump-tariff-aid-to-farmers-cost-more-than-us-nuclear-forces/

appmanga

(873 posts)
14. Yes, under very specific circumstances...
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:33 PM
8 hrs ago

...like when China was undercutting U.S. chip makers by insane amounts.

former9thward

(33,336 posts)
16. Biden has a tariff on pickup trucks from the EU.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:36 PM
8 hrs ago

Fair? A tariff on EVs and EV batteries. Fair? Who is paying for those?

appmanga

(873 posts)
17. Yes, it's fair and American consumers who buy the trucks are paying for the tariff.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:39 PM
7 hrs ago

This is one of those case where an emerging U.S. market deserves some degree of protection for now.

marble falls

(61,287 posts)
32. He answered. Consumers pay for tariffs. They're meant to discouraged consumers who don't realize ...
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:10 PM
4 hrs ago

... buying cheap (often subsidized. substandard) foreign products kill jobs. Just like Walmart didn't kill small businesses, the people who swarmed Walmart did.

Blue_Roses

(13,161 posts)
37. I'll answer. Yes, they're fair
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 03:35 AM
2 min ago

and I'm glad they are taxed. I live in Texas and you can't go 2 inches down the highway without seeing an oversized truck trying to run you down. Not to mention the exhaust that is the main contributor to global warming. And while they're at it, tax those damn LED lights that blind the hell out of us at night. Yes, was just having this conversation the other day with one of my Lyft passengers.

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(619 posts)
15. Don't forgot no tax on Overtime pay...
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:36 PM
8 hrs ago

Oh but that probably won’t be an issue since he’ll likely make overtime illegal. 😂

newdayneeded

(2,426 posts)
35. This is a pre-curser to the rights
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:47 PM
3 hrs ago

wet dream of slave labor. He will pass this and make all overtime non tax. The corporation (with a wink and a nod toward trump) will immediately make all positions salary (no overtime for salaried employees). Once everyone is salary they will get 60 hour weeks from workers. essentially cutting worker's pay by a third. $20/hour x 40 = $800, $800 ÷ 60 hours = $13.33/hour. This is all planned folks.

Maru Kitteh

(28,895 posts)
23. Firefighters, police & military - Trump thinks these are macho male jobs. Nurses & teachers
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:22 PM
5 hrs ago

who he thinks are all women, can go pound sand for not supporting him.

GoCubsGo

(32,845 posts)
25. That's how many jobs his plans will kill.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:24 PM
5 hrs ago

It's hard to pay income tax when your job goes "POOF!", and you don't have an income. If you think jobs losses were bad in his first term, just imagine what they'll be like if he gets back in...

andym

(5,585 posts)
34. Tariffs-- huge price increases
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:14 PM
4 hrs ago

If people aren't happy with the results of inflation, just wait until they see the effects on prices of tariffs and trade wars.

MichMan

(12,950 posts)
36. The Harris campaign needs to address this head on by making it clear to voters what she would do.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:24 AM
3 hrs ago

Trump can't implement this on his own anyway. Nip this BS in the bud by promising voters that a President Harris will veto any reckless attempts by Congress to eliminate taxes on Social Security, Tips, and Overtime.

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