Flirting with authoritarianism and fascist, tyrannical dictators is a stupid game. One that nether Trump or Musk will win.

all because of Leon Musk. I feel bad for his workforce.

Toyota, the world's biggest auto maker selling 10x what Tesla does has a P/E of 7.
And since his promises of self driving cars was more bullshit,,that tells me Tesla stock is over priced by 1000%

That nimrod, Musk, doesn’t know how to read a room

It's the market, Elon! People don't like you, they don't buy your shit! it's capitalism at work!

As of late, it seems that Musk's mega-funded disinformation campaign has become his life goal.

Racist misogynistic righwing musk

Tesla's sales in the third quarter of 2024 were 462,890 vehicles, a 6.4% increase from the same quarter in 2023. This was the first quarter of 2024 that Tesla saw a rise in quarterly deliveries. The increase was due to strong performance in China and financing deals offered to counter high interest rates.

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/10/02/tesla-sales-up-6-4-in-3rd-quarter-charts-graphs/

those who work abroad (or live abroad).

he would not have lost them if he did not go full-blown nuts about social media propaganda for the fascists, revealing himself to be one ugly liar and manipulator. He should have stayed out of meddling in politics.

If I owned a company I would never involve myself in politics.

The WSJ article was published in April. The data was from October and November 2023.

The part that is false is that it's breaking news. It's obviously not. It's year-old data.

https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/elon-musk-turned-democrats-off-tesla-when-he-needed-them-most-176023af

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Going back to the 1st quarter and 2nd quarter of 2024, Tesla’s year-over-year sales drops were 8.5% and 4.8%, respectively. As your CleanTechnica article goes on to point out, Tesla "will still need a strong 4th quarter in order to log sales growth in 2024." So no, the OP headline is not "false," former9thward. Tesla's sales in 2024 are down. The overall Tesla sales picture that your own CleanTechnica article describes shows Tesla sales look like they are trending down, not up.



And you can't blame it on a marketwide EV sales slowdown. The so called EV sales slowdown is mostly a Tesla sales slowdown, according to sales data. Tesla may be in trouble, but other EVs are selling just fine. Almost every other automaker is seeing double-digit EV sales growth. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2024/06/ev-sales-slowdown-is-mostly-a-tesla-problem-according-to-sales-data/

I wondered how his politics would impact sales

“The Tesla Cybertruck was the third bestselling EV in the U.S. in the third quarter, defying conventional wisdom. Used prices, meanwhile, are falling as more new Cybertrucks flood the market.

Despite a lavish price tag starting at about $100,000, the Tesla pickup outsold every EV in the U.S. in the third quarter except for the Model Y and Model 3, according to Cox Automotive, which owns Kelley Blue Book.”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2024/10/15/tesla-cybertruck-sales-surge-in-q3-as-used-price-crashes/

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I’m curious to know how you determine that it’s a “shitty” car?

Case. Closed.

Basically you don’t actually have any real knowledge? You just hate Musk?

I was hoping that you could educate me. Guess not.

Nobody cares about your silly Tesla.🙄

I thought it a reasonable question.

Have a nice evening.

The case isn't closed at all (IMO).

..also the repair costs are extremely higher than most other vehicles.

The Mini Cooper has a better interior design that most Teslas.

Perhaps now that the vehicles prices have come down, they are making maintenance more expensive.

Except maybe for tires. And very little maintenance. I think there are less than 10 moving parts.

It’s completely different than an ICE automobile in many aspects.

My cars and my computers are salvage.

I don't want to encourage certain industries with my dollars.

The only "new" computer I've bought this last decade was a Raspberry Pi 4.

The last and only time I'll ever buy a new car was when I was young and foolish, back in the 'eighties.

Those who say such things either don't own one or can't afford one.

I definitely wanted one before Musk made it so public what an asshole he is.

As for the Cybertruck, from what I've heard it's fair to call that particular monstrosity a shitty car.

List of most reliable car brands ranks Tesla as #14 (out of 30 total), with a score of 48/100, so pretty mid range.

I mean they aren't Chrysler at least, but a there are plenty of higher quality cars out there.

Another ‘genius businessman’ who ain’t…

The data was from October and November 2023.

https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/elon-musk-turned-democrats-off-tesla-when-he-needed-them-most-176023af

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Not sure why that channel is claiming that it's breaking news. It's not. It's year-old data from a six-month-old report.

This is a "developing" story though. Leon Loses a lot of potential customers who lean Democratic (inside the US of A) every hour and there are a lot of new (and better) EVs on the market today (and in the coming years).

I get he sells a lot abroad but that will change overtime as competitors will take bites at his market shares.

to buy a Tesla. She saved for several years.

She owns an electric Audi. All due to Musk.

there are lots of EVs now compared to just 5 or 6 years ago. Many of them are cheaper than a Tesla and have lots of bells and whistles.

As mentioned, the MachE is a really cool car.

Really alot of cars look like a tesla. Reminds me of my corolla now

There are now lots of electric cars to choose from too.

I have 10 or so I see regularly

And 2 were adamant they would never buy a Tesla !

19 Tesla sales for every 1 Ford EV.

"Sorry, I bought mine back when we thought he was cool."

I cannot believe this country has become to entangles with that one guy. Maybe someone should look for bribes.

• People prefer hybrids in a lot of cases. I know a fellow DU'er who did just that.

• You cannot PAY me to own or even use a car that is remotely controllable by ANYONE, let alone a nazi.

Tesla spelled sideways is STEAL
STOP THE STEAL.

An analysis here:
https://electrek.co/2024/10/21/elon-musk-delusionally-believes-trump-support-not-affecting-tesla-claims-sales-all-time-highs/

Whether dems are boycotting Tesla or not, it can’t help that the idiot ceo is spending all his time humping Trump over focusing on his job.

Also re:Tesla being a shitty car, it probably is not. I have no idea. But I don’t think EVs alone will fix our environmental crises without many other switches to a less consumption oriented lifestyle.
And it is not as if he personally probably has anything to do with the design of the car. Tesla engineers are probably pretty competent and at least some of them probably consider him an embarassing bloviating idiot.

Even politics aside, the man is an ass…

I hate Eloon and you can hate me if you want, but I fking love this car.

Couple of years back, Tesla cars were seen as progressive, unique and a hope for the future in terms of renewable and cheaper motive energy.

I imagine a lot of people wanted one, and still do, but are holding off because their current gas powered car is really too good to dump, so yeah I'd say they are thinking . . . some time in the future.

Then Elon started playing silly bugger political games and certain Asian makers said . . . hold my beer, and see what we can do!

Two things that put me off, beyond the above - little motivation locally to put EV chargers in convenient spots - any spots really - and the few Teslas I have seen just look low budget and unfinished. (No idea what models I've seen though.)

Mahalo, SunSeeker! 💙

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