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Talitha

(7,379 posts)
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:48 PM 4 hrs ago

Does anyone know a voter who is still 'undecided'?

I sure don't.

And do you think people attend rallies to help them decide, or are most of them basically there to cheer for their Candidate?

IMO, some of Dump's attendees are there just to see the freak show.

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Does anyone know a voter who is still 'undecided'? (Original Post) Talitha 4 hrs ago OP
Hard to say. Around here in Connecticut, "I'm undecided" is the polite way to say I'm voting for Donnie but don't want unblock 4 hrs ago #1
And there use to be a fairly strong tradition of saying, "None of your damned business!" stopdiggin 3 hrs ago #11
My suspicion is that some went along with the cult, but are close to breaking away, like shaking an addiction. usonian 4 hrs ago #2
Thanks for the link! Talitha 3 hrs ago #16
Let's hope that lots and lots of others are fed up with his re-runs. usonian 2 hrs ago #17
The whole "undecided" bamagal62 4 hrs ago #3
There are many more 2020 non voters who could be motivated to vote. spooky3 4 hrs ago #4
Yes, I guess those are the folks who'd attend in order to make up their mind. Talitha 2 hrs ago #18
An article to consider: There Are No "Undecideds" B.See 4 hrs ago #5
Thanks for the link and yes indeed, GOTV!! Talitha 2 hrs ago #19
Anyone who is "undecided" is a Trumper, NameAlreadyTaken 4 hrs ago #6
I know several. TwilightZone 4 hrs ago #7
Yet to us, things are crystal clear. It boggles the mind. Talitha 2 hrs ago #20
No. H2O Man 4 hrs ago #8
I have a friend who is not undecided per se. She just changes her mind every time I speak with her. Intractable 4 hrs ago #9
I actually do know 2 undecided voters. MyMission 4 hrs ago #10
Nope sakabatou 3 hrs ago #12
Well, I know that "undecided" means "clueless." Iggo 3 hrs ago #13
Rachel Bitecofer says we are reading undecideds all wrong. Hassler 3 hrs ago #14
Yes, a lot of people are just thinking about local races Johonny 3 hrs ago #15
Yes Raine 23 min ago #21

unblock

(54,028 posts)
1. Hard to say. Around here in Connecticut, "I'm undecided" is the polite way to say I'm voting for Donnie but don't want
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:52 PM
4 hrs ago

to lose friends over it.

stopdiggin

(12,593 posts)
11. And there use to be a fairly strong tradition of saying, "None of your damned business!"
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:33 PM
3 hrs ago

but, have to essentially agree that most of "none of your business", in this environment - means 'Trump'.

usonian

(13,063 posts)
2. My suspicion is that some went along with the cult, but are close to breaking away, like shaking an addiction.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 10:59 PM
4 hrs ago

I like to re-read a Buzzfeed article:

Republicans Voting For Kamala Harris Over Donald Trump Are Sharing The Reasons Why, And This Makes So Much Sense

https://www.buzzfeed.com/morgansloss1/republicans-voting-for-kamala-harris-share-why

29 readers responded with their reasons.

It seems that the contradiction of a so-called Messiah appointed by Jesus himself, who behaves in the most deplorable and deranged manner is too much for minds to contain. But I won’t second guess the switchers.

The “undecided” may indeed be reluctant switchers.

spooky3

(35,793 posts)
4. There are many more 2020 non voters who could be motivated to vote.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:00 PM
4 hrs ago

I think these are the people the campaign is trying to reach.

Talitha

(7,379 posts)
18. Yes, I guess those are the folks who'd attend in order to make up their mind.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:25 AM
2 hrs ago

Hadn't thought of that - thanks!

B.See

(3,125 posts)
5. An article to consider: There Are No "Undecideds"
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:00 PM
4 hrs ago
There Are No "Undecideds" - Dailykos


if they’re telling you that they are “undecided” that means…

...that they did decide that Trump being impeached twice didn’t disqualify him.

...that they did decide that Trump’s handling of COVID, including lying about how serious and deadly it is, and manipulating health care supplies based on whether an area or a representative supported him, didn’t disqualify him.

...that they decided helping lead an insurrection to overturn an election, all based on lies, does not disqualify him.


The author of the piece makes a good point. In spite all of the above (and what I couldn't excerpt - read the rest for yourself) it hasn't been enough for them to "DECIDE."

So, don't count on the so-called 'undecided.' This election, and the future of OUR DEMOCRACY is up to US.

GOTV!

TwilightZone

(27,362 posts)
7. I know several.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:01 PM
4 hrs ago

Mostly extended family members and clients.

Some are life-long Republicans or libertarians/conservatives who won't vote for Trump but haven't yet convinced themselves that they can vote for Harris.

A few think "Washington" or "the government" is the problem and don't see stark differences (that seem obvious to us) between the two parties in that regard.

A couple are mostly apolitical but usually vote anyway. They're in the decide at the last minute camp.

None of them really fit into the nice, neat boxes into which we tend to throw them.

I think people remain undecided for myriad reasons, and I don't think we have a very good grasp on what those reasons might be. Nor do we really care. It's just easier to assume the worst.

Intractable

(313 posts)
9. I have a friend who is not undecided per se. She just changes her mind every time I speak with her.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:06 PM
4 hrs ago

More of a flip-flopper than an undecided.

She changes her mind based on things she randomly hears. And she's very sure of herself.

At 76, there's some dementia there.

MyMission

(1,990 posts)
10. I actually do know 2 undecided voters.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:17 PM
4 hrs ago

They're not voting for Harris, they decided that. But they're undecided about voting for tfg, because they were going to vote for Kennedy. They'd decided not to vote for tfg, but when Kennedy endorsed tfg they were torn. They haven't decided to vote for him and there are 4 other presidential candidates on the NC ballot besides Harris and tRump. I think some of the "undecided" fall into this category. Most will end up voting for tfg, but I'm hoping these 2 folks will decide to vote for a 3rd party candidate if they can't bring themselves to vote for Kamala, I'd prefer their vote not go to tfg.

Again, to clarify, i think that most undecided voters are undecided about whether or not they're voting for tfg. It's not that they can't decide between Harris and tRump.

Iggo

(48,188 posts)
13. Well, I know that "undecided" means "clueless."
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 11:42 PM
3 hrs ago

So yeah, I know some undecided voters.

They think it makes them sound thoughtful and fair. But it doesn’t. It makes it sound like the test is tomorrow, so now they’re going to see what this “algebra” stuff is all about.

Hassler

(3,576 posts)
14. Rachel Bitecofer says we are reading undecideds all wrong.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:03 AM
3 hrs ago

They are extremely uninvolved in politics. It's not that they can't decide between Kamala and Don Old, it's that they can't decide between voting or not voting.

Johonny

(21,794 posts)
15. Yes, a lot of people are just thinking about local races
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:03 AM
3 hrs ago

Down ballot stuff doesn't get national news anymore. Information is hard to find. A lot of people don't even look at the local stuff until it is time to sit down and figure out their vote.

Raine

(30,592 posts)
21. Yes
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 02:59 AM
23 min ago

They dislike both candidates and are leaning toward Bobby Kennedy or skipping the presidential vote but will vote down ballot.

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