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Bolo Boffin

(23,870 posts)
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 07:22 PM Tuesday

BS alert: CNN manufacturing false charges of plagiarism attacking Kamala Harris

CNN has released a story today saying that in 2007, Kamala Harris "lifted language" from a Republican district attorney when he testified before a Senate committee. Harris later testified before a House committee on the same topic, and her statement does contain 80% of the Republican DA's testimony, BUT...

Both were testifying because they were members of the National District Attorneys Association. The NDAA had drafted the initial testimony for both appearances, and had made use of much of the previous Senate testimony for Harris's later House appearance.

In other words, this plagiarism charge is a buncha damn BS.

https://bsky.app/profile/kennorton.com/post/3l7557cxdwf2l

EDITED: Oh, my dear Lordt, they got this story from Chris Rufo. Chris GD Rufo fed them this line of BS and they couldn't even be bothered to do the least bit of counter-investigation into it.

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BS alert: CNN manufacturing false charges of plagiarism attacking Kamala Harris (Original Post) Bolo Boffin Tuesday OP
The CNN article says that the passages were likely written for both of them. TwilightZone Tuesday #1
It's the headline and the way it's being described by CNN in social media Bolo Boffin Tuesday #3
Yep, this is being pushed by that POS Christopher Rufo... keep_left Tuesday #2
He's a rabid extremist republican wolfie001 Tuesday #4
he's more well known for the whole anti-DEI crusade Reputhugs latched onto early in Biden's term LymphocyteLover Tuesday #9
You're right but he's DeShitBag's go to hate-organizer for LGBTQ issues wolfie001 Tuesday #12
If the truth is that Harris did not plagiarize senseandsensibility Tuesday #5
Wow they really are desperate arent they? And as for the media, Volaris Tuesday #6
not all outlets but way too many LymphocyteLover Tuesday #8
Who the fuck cares at this point? So dumb. Also Rufo is a racist fuckface. LymphocyteLover Tuesday #7
CNN living up to Rump's title of Fake News! mdbl Tuesday #10
CNN... GiqueCee Tuesday #11
Manufactured to use against her like the China inuendo was used against Walz flamingdem Tuesday #13
It's not plagiarism. It's DA talking points that the NDAA wanted her to say. SunSeeker Tuesday #14
who cares at this point? WE should. B.See Tuesday #15
CNN: "Harris isn't doing enough rallies". Meanwhile Trump is bragging about the size of a golfer's penis. Galraedia Tuesday #16
CNN lifted language from Chris Rufo. dchill Tuesday #17
Will that be a question from CNN at the Town Hall on Wednesday Night? The audience usually asks the questions I Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Tuesday #18

TwilightZone

(27,538 posts)
1. The CNN article says that the passages were likely written for both of them.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 07:38 PM
Tuesday

Which is the same thing you're saying, so I'm not sure what the problem is. They also quote an expert who says it's no big deal and an extremely common practice. Perhaps you stopped reading after your excerpt.

Logli told the Free Beacon that he remembers the organization researched and drafted his opening statement. He said the organization likely used similar statements to be consistent with its positions.

“Kamala Harris represented California state prosecutors as a member of the Board of Directors of NDAA and was testifying in that capacity two months later before the House Judiciary Committee,” he told the Beacon. “I believe she also relied on NDAA staff support for her opening statement.”


(snip)

“It’s definitely not a serious case of plagiarism, to put it mildly. We’re researching it now because she’s running for president. We can argue if it’s ethical or not, but I bet it’s extremely common practice [in politics],” said Jonathan Bailey, a plagiarism expert who runs the site Plagiarism Today.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/22/politics/kamala-harris-plagiarism-allegation-congressional-testimony/index.html

Bolo Boffin

(23,870 posts)
3. It's the headline and the way it's being described by CNN in social media
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:50 PM
Tuesday

Headline:

Harris lifted language from Republican attorney in her 2007 congressional testimony


In social media:

Kamala Harris lifted language from a Republican attorney when she testified in front of Congress in 2007, a CNN review of her testimony finds.


The article provides a lot of punch-pulling. The headline and the social media blurbs are the bullshit I'm talking about. Most people don't read more than that. CNN knows this and they aimed for the bullshit to get the clicks. Good job providing them some more with the link.

keep_left

(2,276 posts)
2. Yep, this is being pushed by that POS Christopher Rufo...
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 07:42 PM
Tuesday

...and covered extensively by far-right media, particularly Catholic radtrad media like EWTN and (Ir)-Relevant Radio.

wolfie001

(3,403 posts)
4. He's a rabid extremist republican
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:50 PM
Tuesday

That's apparently a moderate these days. He created the whole fucking anti-trans movement. With dark money from deep republican pockets.

wolfie001

(3,403 posts)
12. You're right but he's DeShitBag's go to hate-organizer for LGBTQ issues
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 09:31 PM
Tuesday

Of course it's behind a paywall but what I referred to is in this here article. Both issues are in this lede. From 2022. He's a hater so you're not really telling me anything new. But thanks anyway?

senseandsensibility

(20,141 posts)
5. If the truth is that Harris did not plagiarize
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:53 PM
Tuesday

then that IS the headline. The real news is that the rightwing is lying and smearing Harris. That should be reflected in the headline and should be the main focus.

Volaris

(10,531 posts)
6. Wow they really are desperate arent they? And as for the media,
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:57 PM
Tuesday

They really have thrown their support to the face-eating leopard, haven't they?

flamingdem

(39,833 posts)
13. Manufactured to use against her like the China inuendo was used against Walz
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 09:38 PM
Tuesday

Can't wait for this to be over and Pres Harris can get things straight!

SunSeeker

(53,404 posts)
14. It's not plagiarism. It's DA talking points that the NDAA wanted her to say.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 09:45 PM
Tuesday

Such a stupid attack.

Meanwhile, their guy led an insurrection and wants Hitler's generals.

B.See

(3,174 posts)
15. who cares at this point? WE should.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 09:49 PM
Tuesday

After this is over, let us remember all of the MSM media pundits and moguls, the corporations, the celebrities and social entities - those who benefit from our patronage - and who let us down at this critical moment in our nation's history.

Galraedia

(5,099 posts)
16. CNN: "Harris isn't doing enough rallies". Meanwhile Trump is bragging about the size of a golfer's penis.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 09:49 PM
Tuesday

CNN is a joke. It doesn't surprise me that they would run with this BS as they try to appear to be fair by criticizing both sides even if it means making sh*t up to do it.

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(671 posts)
18. Will that be a question from CNN at the Town Hall on Wednesday Night? The audience usually asks the questions I
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 09:58 PM
Tuesday

know, but doesn’t the sponsor, in this case CNN, ask some as well?

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