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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(114,086 posts)
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:29 PM Yesterday

The owner of the Los Angeles Times has blocked the paper from endorsing a candidate for president this yea

The billionaire owner of the Los Angeles Times has reportedly blocked its editorial board from endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for president.

Members of the editorial board were all set to endorse Harris for the most powerful position in America, but earlier this month, executive editor Terry Tang told staff members the paper would not be endorsing a candidate for president, two people familiar with the conversations told Semafor.

She reportedly said the decision came straight from the paper's owner, Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, a doctor who made his fortune in the healthcare industry.

The decision marks a major departure for Harris' home state newspaper, which has exclusively endorsed Democratic presidential candidates since then-Senator Barack Obama ran in 2008.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/billionaire-owner-blocks-the-la-times-from-endorsing-kamala-harris/ar-AA1sJSHO

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The owner of the Los Angeles Times has blocked the paper from endorsing a candidate for president this yea (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Yesterday OP
Kicking so more eyes can see this. BComplex Yesterday #1
L.A. End Times BattleRow Yesterday #31
Oy, so many freaking cowards in the media... and it is self-defeating. Bastards. LymphocyteLover Yesterday #43
LOL BComplex Yesterday #52
The Editorial Department should issue a full-sized paper MineralMan Yesterday #2
Yep. In this case a "mulligan" says more than if they just endorsed. n/t forgotmylogin Yesterday #25
Kirk, you will find a way Tetrachloride Yesterday #3
Mask off time. If you read the LAT, now you know what kind of editorial RockRaven Yesterday #4
this is fucked up! barbtries Yesterday #5
Time to bring back the Telecommunications Act. rubbersole Yesterday #18
Huh? Sarcasm? onenote Yesterday #24
It used to be ownership of media outlets was restricted. rubbersole Yesterday #30
YES DENVERPOPS Yesterday #33
Yes DENVERPOPS Yesterday #34
Ownership of newspapers like the LA Times has never been regulated. onenote Yesterday #42
You are correct. rubbersole 17 hrs ago #62
While I don't know about news "papers" soandso Yesterday #44
Id do it anyway, only NOW its going on the front page because its not JUST editorial,... Volaris Yesterday #6
Freedom of the Press Quiet Em Yesterday #7
The "freedom of the press" belongs to he who owns the press. marybourg Yesterday #10
I didn't know that. Quiet Em Yesterday #12
As he's falling out the window Johonny Yesterday #8
"I'm President Xi Jinpeng and I approve this message." Kid Berwyn Yesterday #9
Well, there goes California. (BLUE) usonian Yesterday #11
Owner is from South Africa and friend of Elon Musk Nevilledog Yesterday #13
What is it with these South Africans? S/V Loner Yesterday #14
I weary of South Africans having power here ArkansasDemocrat1 Yesterday #32
Apartheid Joinfortmill Yesterday #37
Exactly. This is why the GOP want forced babies from Caucasians, GreenWave Yesterday #54
The L. A. Times local TV news via Spectrum has been on default for months. SleeplessinSoCal Yesterday #39
Theil is German tenderfoot 21 hrs ago #56
Thiel did live in... S/V Loner 21 hrs ago #58
Ah, I did not know that... thanks for the info. tenderfoot 19 hrs ago #60
Fascist Asshole.. Tough Shit.. California is Going FOR Cha Yesterday #15
Such bastards!!!! LA times bdamomma Yesterday #40
The Filthy Rich Fascists are Everywhere! Too Bad Cha Yesterday #46
kicked .. likesmountains 52 Yesterday #16
so is it really journalism anymore 4catsmom Yesterday #17
Absolutely not senseandsensibility Yesterday #19
There are times orangecrush Yesterday #20
Another reason to find and follow trusted independent journalism. Bev54 Yesterday #21
billionaires rule the world et tu Yesterday #22
Those bdamomma Yesterday #41
Independent news needs to report this. 33taw Yesterday #23
Exhibit #1 on how our press is not free Stardust Mirror Yesterday #26
DU...drop your subscription if you have one PortTack Yesterday #27
Patrick Soon-Shiong is a South African verargert Yesterday #28
He's also a naturalized US citizen. onenote Yesterday #47
So, too, is Trump. Wednesdays 21 hrs ago #55
No. Trump is a natural born citizen. onenote 21 hrs ago #57
No. If he were he couldn't be President. Presidents must be "natural-born citizens" marybourg 20 hrs ago #59
I had been thinking of returning to the LAT The Unmitigated Gall Yesterday #29
Hope they boycott the paper. Joinfortmill Yesterday #35
It ain't just newspapers twodogsbarking Yesterday #36
Patrick Soon-Shiong, born to Chinese immigrants in South Africa. Turns out he's one brilliant & uncomplicated human. ancianita Yesterday #38
If it's media and owned by billionaires, it's corrupt, most likely fascist, and definitely manipulated. Magoo48 Yesterday #45
Well, its a newspaper, so who will know? Joe Nation Yesterday #48
Every news source should interview the editorial board KS Toronado Yesterday #49
Apartheid - thrown out of South Africa ... dchill Yesterday #50
Worker-owned journalism jayschool2013 Yesterday #51
seen on twitter orleans Yesterday #53
And the editor of the editorials page resigned because of it. Buns_of_Fire 19 hrs ago #61

BComplex

(8,971 posts)
1. Kicking so more eyes can see this.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:32 PM
Yesterday

The owner of the paper should see sales of his publication drop substantially.

MineralMan

(147,271 posts)
2. The Editorial Department should issue a full-sized paper
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:34 PM
Yesterday

With all pages blank, except for this statement on each page, in large, bold type:

"This page is intentionally left blank."

RockRaven

(16,056 posts)
4. Mask off time. If you read the LAT, now you know what kind of editorial
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:37 PM
Yesterday

distortions and manipulations you are potentially being exposed to every day. Is that the sort of "news" you want?

rubbersole

(8,254 posts)
30. It used to be ownership of media outlets was restricted.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:17 PM
Yesterday

Massive corporations controlling the "news"/message is a cancer on democracy. Billionaires buying elected representatives and media platforms is becoming the norm. It's on the ballot like never before. Government is the ONLY thing that can rein in this massive concentration of wealth. Repubs encourage it. Dems have a generational struggle ahead to reverse this trend. People vs unlimited money. No guarantees as who will prevail. Nov 5th is a good start.

rubbersole

(8,254 posts)
62. You are correct.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 01:07 AM
17 hrs ago

Your options were greater when there was more competition. Journalistic integrity was paramount. Editors weren't just rubber stamps in independent newsrooms. Yeah, I know...and a quarter would buy you a cup of coffee...

soandso

(743 posts)
44. While I don't know about news "papers"
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:51 PM
Yesterday

It was the Telecommunications Act of 1996 that allowed the corporate monopolies of news stations and that was promoted and signed by Bill Clinton. As far as I'm concerned, no corporation or individual should own more than one news outlet. Even that wouldn't help the fact of individual newspapers being controlled by billionaires, though.

Volaris

(10,531 posts)
6. Id do it anyway, only NOW its going on the front page because its not JUST editorial,...
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:38 PM
Yesterday

it'll be national news when everyone gets fired.

Quiet Em

(611 posts)
7. Freedom of the Press
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:40 PM
Yesterday

They need to defend their right and publish the endorsement.

A search of the owner shows he wants a role in a Trump administration, health care czar

marybourg

(13,061 posts)
10. The "freedom of the press" belongs to he who owns the press.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:49 PM
Yesterday

In this case the owner of the L. A. Times.

Quiet Em

(611 posts)
12. I didn't know that.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 01:54 PM
Yesterday

That's awful.

Time for folks to cancel their subscriptions then.

And thank you for the clarification on this.

S/V Loner

(9,083 posts)
14. What is it with these South Africans?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:07 PM
Yesterday

Musk, Thiel and now Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong.
I guess they are still pissed about losing apartheid there and have plans to bring it back here in the States..

ArkansasDemocrat1

(3,018 posts)
32. I weary of South Africans having power here
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:22 PM
Yesterday

Need to raise taxes so they don't have money to cause mischief with.

GreenWave

(8,804 posts)
54. Exactly. This is why the GOP want forced babies from Caucasians,
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 05:53 PM
Yesterday

Their Apartheid acquaintances lost Big Time in South Africa from being the minority.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,583 posts)
39. The L. A. Times local TV news via Spectrum has been on default for months.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:34 PM
Yesterday

I've tried to override the default in settings, but to no avail. I looked this guy up a year ago and felt comforted by his bio. But knowing he has a similar path as Musk is upsetting. There is a 19 year age difference. And his work is extremely admirable...

"American businessman, investor, medical researcher, philanthropist, and transplant surgeon. He is the inventor of the drug Abraxane, which became known for its efficacy against lung, breast, and pancreatic cancer."

"He has committed to the Giving Pledge and has pledged to give away at least half of his wealth to philanthropy."

tenderfoot

(8,640 posts)
56. Theil is German
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:57 PM
21 hrs ago

I think he romanticizes the Third Reich rather than Apartheid. One and the same really.

Cha

(304,121 posts)
15. Fascist Asshole.. Tough Shit.. California is Going FOR
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:09 PM
Yesterday

VP Harris & Gov Tim Walz in Spite of his Authoritarian Bullshit!

bdamomma

(65,687 posts)
40. Such bastards!!!! LA times
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:39 PM
Yesterday

The voters will have something to say about that!!!!!! VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cha

(304,121 posts)
46. The Filthy Rich Fascists are Everywhere! Too Bad
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:56 PM
Yesterday

For them.. This is a People Powered Election For VP Harris and Gov Tim Walz & Democracy!

senseandsensibility

(20,141 posts)
19. Absolutely not
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:44 PM
Yesterday

It is not journalism. I have degrees in both Journalism and K-12 education. What is happening in journalism today is the equivalent of a school principal telling teachers that they can't explain concepts to their students. For informational purposes, there are "scripts" in teachers' textbooks that tell them what to say to students when they teach. But NO good teacher limits themselves to that. When students don't understand, teachers access the problem and adjust accordingly. So while a principal could cover themselves by saying that if you read the script and nothing else you are technically "teaching", it would be real instruction in name only. And that's what's going on in too much of journalism today.

orangecrush

(21,155 posts)
20. There are times
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 02:53 PM
Yesterday


When integrity is more important than a job.

This is one of them.

Time for them to speak out.

Bev54

(11,785 posts)
21. Another reason to find and follow trusted independent journalism.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:00 PM
Yesterday

Time to put these oligarch's out of business.

Stardust Mirror

(587 posts)
26. Exhibit #1 on how our press is not free
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:10 PM
Yesterday

owners will fire anyone in their company/paper/channel who goes against their politics
and all the people working for said owner know it

that is how the press becomes biased

it's ok to have biased press if reporters/outlets are free to express their own biases and it's ok for owners to direct those biases but it's not ok when there are only 15 individual people who own/control 90% of all media in the country. There should be as many independent owners of media as there are varied points of view. Ownership should be limited to the billionaire class.

marybourg

(13,061 posts)
59. No. If he were he couldn't be President. Presidents must be "natural-born citizens"
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 09:53 PM
20 hrs ago

according to the Constitution.

The Unmitigated Gall

(4,411 posts)
29. I had been thinking of returning to the LAT
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:16 PM
Yesterday

After stopping the Post. Years ago I dropped NY Times over Judith Miller.

But not now. Wonder what the Editorial Board will do...

twodogsbarking

(12,092 posts)
36. It ain't just newspapers
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:31 PM
Yesterday

And when you trust your television
What you get is what you got
'Cause when they own the information, oh
They can bend it all they want

John Mayer

ancianita

(38,056 posts)
38. Patrick Soon-Shiong, born to Chinese immigrants in South Africa. Turns out he's one brilliant & uncomplicated human.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 03:33 PM
Yesterday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Soon-Shiong

Soon-Shiong's net worth is $6.2 billion as of 2024.[9] He has been called the richest man in Los Angeles and one of the wealthiest doctors in the world.[10]...


from the New Yorker 2 years ago... a fascinating profile of a highly accomplished human. No wonder he and Elon are friends.

Soon-Shiong founded NantHealth in 2007 to provide fiber-optic, cloud-based data infrastructure to share healthcare information.[37] Soon-Shiong went on to found NantWorks in September 2011, whose mission was "to converge ultra-low power semiconductor technology, supercomputing, high performance, secure advanced networks and augmented intelligence to transform how we work, play, and live."[38][39] It owns a number of technology companies in the fields of healthcare, commerce, digital entertainment as well as a venture capital firm in the healthcare, education, science, and technology sectors. Particular technologies include machine vision, object and voice recognition, low power semiconductors, supercomputing, and networking technologies.[40] In January 2013, he founded another biotech company, NantOmics, to develop cancer drugs based on protein kinase inhibitors. NantOmics and its sister company, NantHealth, were subsidiaries of NantWorks.[41]

In 2013, Soon-Shiong became an early investor in Zoom, the video conferencing company.[42]

In September 2014, NantWorks LLC, a company headed by Soon-Shiong, invested $2.5 million in AccuRadio.[43]...the NantWorks galaxy, there is NantHealth, which builds diagnostic medical software; NantCloud, which offers cloud-computing services; ImmunityBio, which develops immunotherapy treatments for cancer; and NantStudios, a movie soundstage and visual-effects studio. There are also NantMobile, NantBioScience, NantEnergy, NantOmics, and NantGames...


Given his surgeon background and his drug research & development, his purchases of big pharmaceuticals, investments in South Africa, and his biggest project umbrella of all, Nantworks, why did he want to own the LA Times at all? Here's one clue, imo.

NantWorks’ logo is a feather emerging from a circle. When I asked Soon-Shiong what “Nant” referred to, he gestured to a ropework basket hanging from the bookshelf behind him. “You see this Apache basket? The word ‘Nantan’ stands for ‘he who speaks for the people,’ ” Soon-Shiong said. “I’m an honorary Navajo, and I’m on the Apache council. Because my job, frankly, is to help the marginalized and underserved.”






Joe Nation

(998 posts)
48. Well, its a newspaper, so who will know?
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 04:02 PM
Yesterday

I mean as popular as the print media is these days, not sure anyone will notice any kind of endorsement.

jayschool2013

(2,448 posts)
51. Worker-owned journalism
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 04:24 PM
Yesterday
From the Columbia Journalism Review

404 Media and the hopes of worker-owned journalism

April 18, 2024
By Justin R. Silverman

What is it like to place a bet in a Las Vegas casino that’s been hacked and is refusing to pay the ransom? Last September, technology journalist Jason Koebler answered that question in the style of Hunter S. Thompson: he went to Vegas and started gambling.

Koebler wrote about the bizarre conditions at the Aria, the Bellagio, and other MGM-owned casinos, which had been the victim of a ransomware attack a week earlier—with employees paying out slot machines by hand and eight restaurants forced to share a single credit card processing machine. His story was picked up by national news outlets.

It wasn’t so different from the kind of reporting Koebler had done for years at his previous employer, Vice’s Motherboard. But this time, he was doing it for 404 Media, a new publication that he, along with his three coeditors, don’t just work for, they own.

SNIP

Koebler quit his job as editor in chief at Motherboard last summer, a few months after Vice declared bankruptcy. (I worked at Vice from 2020 to 2023, and sometimes produced videos for Motherboard.) He and three other Motherboard writers and editors, Samantha Cole, Joseph Cox, and Emanuel Maiberg, launched 404 Media in August. They named it after the error code generated when an internet browser can’t find a webpage.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,774 posts)
61. And the editor of the editorials page resigned because of it.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 10:58 PM
19 hrs ago
Los Angeles Times editor resigns after newspaper withholds presidential endorsement
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143327197
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The editorials editor of the Los Angeles Times has resigned after the newspaper’s owner blocked the editorial board’s plans to endorse Democratic Vice President Kamala Harris for president, a journalism trade publication reported Wednesday.

Mariel Garza told the Columbia Journalism Review in an interview that she resigned because the Times was remaining silent on the contest in “dangerous times.”

“I am resigning because I want to make it clear that I am not OK with us being silent,” Garza said. “In dangerous times, honest people need to stand up. This is how I’m standing up.”

In a post on the social media platform X that did not directly mention the resignation, LA Times owner Patrick Soon-Shiong said the board was asked to do a factual analysis of the policies of Harris and Republican former President Donald Trump during their time at the White House.

Good for her. Good editors are hard to find. Unfortunately, wealthy naturalized nazis are way too common all of a sudden.
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