They ALL signed it?

"I'd like to grab them by the pussy too!"

In the meantime, Trump is a totally unfit person for this office. A 34x convicted criminal awaiting sentencing.

It was going around months ago that he was with one of the Epstein teen girls and she was to perform oral sex on him but he demanded she put on gloves before she touched him, him being a germophobe.

Also it was reported that the teen later asked him not to put it in her vagina.

Who knows. Maybe there is a tape someone had sense enough to save.

This is the same "news" source that oh-so-accurately predicted Beyonce was going to be at the Dem Convention....and even if by some odd chance it's true, do you think many in his base will care?

I'm calling BS until I hear that this is a criminal investigation. Someone has evidence of sexual assault of a minor but is shopping it to the media instead of reporting it to the police?
Anything is possible these days, but until I hear from credible sources that this is an ongoing criminal investigation. This is a non story.

or her family don't report it. -- and I can understand fear of repercussions of they did report it -- the person who has the video should report it. Obviously whoever has the video does not fear repercussions or they would not be making it known that they have it.

vile piece of shit molester.

Depending on how wealthy they could, maybe donate 5 million to Kamala!!

And they believe that all of the prior allegations were made up.

Until it's confirmed or released, it's still just that, a rumor.

Any statement that begins with "I have been told" is on shaky ground until proven otherwise.

…takes it to another whole level — and also begs the question of why the adult with the camera kept quiet.

Look at Trump’s recorded history. Aside from being a rapist, there is a part of him that is thoroughly exhibitionistic. He raped E Jean Carroll in a department store dressing room, for gods’ sake. In front of many witnesses he invaded the Teen pageant dressing room, to which young Ivanka reportedly said, “Daddy does that.” The lifestyle magazine photos he commissioned with him and a barely pubescent Ivanka make me ill to look at. Further exhibitionism was with Ivanka at about the same age giving him a lap dance at a public music event — he with his patented smirk, and unwilling observers looking appalled.

as well as an Adjudicated Rapist. Who knows who is actually leaking the Video.... was it the person who took it or someone else and how did they get a hold of it?

Imagine our Surprise.

Caught on video, otherwise, he would deny deny deny, you didn't see what you think you saw. Anyway Trump is nervous about this coming out, and is scared it will end his campaign.

Arrested. If parents know and did not report it they should be charged with child endangerment.

But, maybe, just maybe, the film will be the difference

For the release of this video. They are saying it is AI generated

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I don't believe that she would. Not her style.

If the source is really a Dem strategist, it's clearly not intended to distract, unless the strategist is an idiot.

wouldn't do it, but that there is no verification, just rumors, speculation, and weird conspiracy theories floating around about motives for making it public.

So I am trashing all the threads about it unless it becomes a verified actual news story.

It's just frustrating that we bite on this stuff every, single time. There is quite literally zero evidence at present, and spreading this as though it's been confirmed is just irresponsible. But here we are.

If it becomes a real story, we'll hear plenty about it. I can wait.

And it isn't going to detract from all of 45's PROVEN criminal behavior, traitorous actions, or the fa t that he fomented an insurrection.

Get us all excited about it so they can ridicule us for falling for a hoax. Therefore, everything we say is a hoax.

I hope the press proceeds with caution.

Groping describes many actions

Because it sounds like that one was made up.

MAGA is a cult. Sexual abuse is a feature of cults. Even a video of the molestation of a minor won't phase these people. They just don't think like people who know the difference between right and wrong.

They love Trump for the cruelty and the deviance.

But that's ok.

for an internet search to turn up dozens of stories of children whose family turned on them when they accused a coach or church leader of sexual assault; or of families ejected and shunned after accusing a church leader of assault.

and "I've been told" means that neither has the source

Think I'll leave the gossip mill in charge of this one.

Please edit, or better yet, self-delete this until a better source is available, if ever.

It's 12 days away.

the cult doesn't care that Trump is a rapist and he pays off porn actors

Like what happened during the Access Hollywood audio?

Could such a video even be shown on TV? Seems to me if a video like this exist, the news would need to be broke by law enforcement. Sense they would be obligated to watch it.

it directly relates to how he governs and is from an impeccable source.

From Generals publicly claiming TSF is unfit for office.

The paper that broke the story probably gave it to them a day or two ahead of the release.

they have him groping a minor? WTF

Who says he "has been told" there's a video.

If he intended it as a distraction, that's a pretty dumb strategy.

If it was bait and he took it, that would be just as dumb.

We should not push this shit.

But no one cares. The water is so muddied with many men of all political parties and religions taking sexual advantage of underage kids that no one seems to care anymore. It just isn’t any kind of surprise.

Presidency. My spidey senses are tingling.

Do I believe orange fuckface is capable? Yes!. This seems too perfectly timed.

COMPLETELY EVISCERATING MAGA.

Looks like the repubs are mediassassinating their leader before our eyes.

Or just decided that rumor = fact. The former seems more likely.

Either way, spreading this with zero evidence is irresponsible.

kind of a dick, so we'll see.

That's not stopping him from talking about it, of course.

"They" set up Dan Rather with a fake story years ago, then torpedoed his career......

Even if true, magats won't believe it, or won't care. It's a version of the shooting someone in the middle of 5th avenue. The weirdo cult would probably love him more for it.

The only thing that may change some minds is if the victim and her parents both came out against him.

Spreading this with zero evidence is irresponsible and could make us look pretty silly if there's no there there.

Wouldn't be the first time, sadly.

On the remote chance that it's true, his supporters wouldn't blink an eye, but independents might, or at least enough to matter.

As noted in the post. "Keith Edwards, Dem strategist, appears to confirm: "

The Newsweek link is the OP speculating that the story from the strategist is the same one Halperin is talking about.

Also, "I have been told" is confirmation of nothing.

They don't care what he does. They will overlook anything for tsf.

Unless he groped someone last week, the vid would have been destroyed or posted by now.

Dems are being trolled on this one. And it's taking away our efforts on the important shit that is known and proven.

This will help them. When all these bullshit rumors about Trump fondling a minor is proven false that will prove he is actually Jesus.

Sounds conspiratorial to me which rarely peeks my interest since there's not a species in our galaxy worse at keeping secrets than humans. And this was kept tightly under wraps until just now? If it happened last week, it might have more credence in my mind. If this happened months ago and was kept firmly under the radar until now?....well, see my statement about humans above.

I thought he already had that.

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1. MAGAts don't care anyway
2. There's no evidence yet
3. Even if evidence comes forth it will be regarded as fake by half the voters and held against the Harris campaign on that basis
4. If it turns out to actually be fake, TSF can parade around claiming "complete exoneration" and it becomes a catastrophe for the Harris campaign
5. Looks like yet another shiny distraction from news cycles that should already be sufficiently damning for TSF

I wouldn't put much faith in any one story to finish off TSF's campaign.

Nothing shocks me from this filthy sleaze.

No need to hold back. If not, it is just stuff to throw a bait to us liberals. Pitched to Halperin, a fascist lover?

Another sexual abuse act, now just allegedly at this point....One can assume she will be paid off...then she would say something else....

Boundaries are gone with him and the guardrails can't be rebuilt in time with tRump...We already know he is a predator..

Hard to believe….

It could still help get more folk on our side to get up and vote though.


As far as the MAGA side goes, youth pastors and priests, have weathered worse. Churches have administered schools that left large grave yards of native children. While I don't see t***p getting on a mike and saying, "I have sinned against you," while continuing his ministry, I expect the promise of tax breaks for the rich to keep them supporting t***p at the top. The bottom seems to love him the more he shows how low he is.

The faltering few MAGA will be easily convinced by the "She seduced him," line. Despite being surrounded by people and guards, that line will work with the fundamentalists, and lower end of the MAGA just fine. They are already trained to blame the victim.

Anyone looking for decent behavior or ethics will already be voting for Kamala.

The Russians are very good with deepfakes and AI. Extreme caution is warranted.

By claiming and defending his post on Threads that Democrats would get more young men to vote for them if they helped them get laid.

No, really.

Massive facepalm.

We're also much too quick to accept dodgy or unknown sources as legitimate.

there's no way someone didn't have tape. A reminder for what it's worth about the rumored contents of that safe that David Pecker was holding. I wonder who else might have seen that stuff or had access to it. This new report could be something else but I've always wondered about that safe.

No one knows a thing about this.

One of two possibilities exist:
1. It’s true in which case the full story w,I’ll emerge with facts that can be checked.

2. It’s bullshit that is being spread in a trap for Democrats. Whoever has concocted this tale has done so to get us to spread the phony story, thereby destroying our credibility and given the MAGAts something with which to make us look foolish.

Leave it alone.

I don't think falling for one false story for a day is going to make us look foolish comparatively.

will break.

If this is real, why don't they just break the actual story, instead of having a story about rumors of an upcoming story? A legit news organization could verify, write, and publish or broadcast this story in probably less than an hour to get the scoop. That's what makes this sound bogus to me.

distract everyone away from the General Kelly revelation which is ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

Then right after that story, here comes a titillating story that none of Trump’s base will care about anyway and for those who do care, well it’s probably an AI generated faux story.

Now the story is off of the Trump wants Generals like Hitler’s and on a fake Trump groping minor story.

It’s a diversion plot, pure and simple

THe first story was the lead on ABC Nightly News. The only people who have even heard of the second are the Very Very Very Online. If it's a distraction, it's a pretty bad and ineffectual one.

DU is a bit of a niche website. We're also really easily distracted and tend to blow things out of proportion or give them an undue amount of attention, as in this case. Lots of people want to believe it's true and ignore all the signs that it probably isn't, including the fact that the only source has no evidence and seems a bit shady.

In the real world, this is currently a non-event. Unless a legitimate source picks it up and actual evidence is provided, the story is going nowhere and hardly anyone will ever even know it was a thing. It's not taking away from the generals story (which is actually at least two years old, but being presented as new) or anything else at the moment.

and easily proven to be AI generated... AND planted by the far right or the Russians.

The key is easily proven. They would plant such a story with video to discredit the left. That might generate sympathy for Trump as a victim of "dirty tricks"... and one more thing

If there IS a video of him doing something like that or worse... this fake video and story would immunize Trump from any REAL video doing what we all know he probably did at some point in the past.

the AI argument can be disposed of by producing the person Trump groped or witnesses to that if she, quite understandably doesn’t want to come forward. AI can only do so much; it can’t invent real people.

I guess we will see in the next couple of days.

Illegal video. Obviously this is fake

But if it were true, and there's clear video evidence of him groping a minor, that is a problem for him. Minors are a whole other ball game. It would be a big deal. He wouldn't drop out and core cult members would be unbothered, or claim it's a deep-state conspiracy. But it would likely move the voters on the margins away from him.

Its over for Trump.

Correct?