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PCIntern

(26,698 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:48 AM 7 hrs ago

I'm gonna make a diagnosis which I can do as a lay person:

In my mind, nearly without question, he suffers from Frontotemporal Dementia.

Wanna know a few things those afflicted demonstrate? Sure you do…

1. Binge eating and obsessive food behaviors. The whole fast food thing is a simple way of binging. It’s much easier than telling your chef go through the efforts of making another double cheeseburger with all the fixings. And then another. With fast food, it’s…fast. “Gimme another” and poof! there it is. His ordering of that for the teams that came to the WH was indicative not only of a low opinion of the players and coaches, but it’s what he would like to eat. That’s how narcissists cook: incidentally others are coming for dinner. And take a look at him.

2. Palmar Grasp disorder: watch how he uses his (tiny) hands to hold a cup of water or Diet Coke. He’s got a problem picking things up.

3. Disinhibition: he has been progressively cursing and sexualizing in his public speeches. Notice that he prefaced the Arnold Palmer story with reflection that translated into the fact that this was not a story to be told, but he couldn’t help himself. I also believe that his groping of women is and was an early sign, because this often starts manifesting itself in one’s forties. (I had a patient who was a famous Philly judge who exhibited this exact behavior for decades and nobody could or would do anything about it. He continued his behavior well into his nineties).

4. Progressive nonfluent aphasia: no shit, Sherlock. Too many examples to begin to list here.

5. Cognitive Dysfunction: ya think? I wouldn’t even know where to begin.

Yep…AFAIC, it’s a three point basket…and the foul. BOOM.

P.S. if the video of him groping comes out, then the disinhibition is quite real and proven. Q.E.D.

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I'm gonna make a diagnosis which I can do as a lay person: (Original Post) PCIntern 7 hrs ago OP
All of which cements his positioin as #1 MAGA Choice for President!! bucolic_frolic 7 hrs ago #1
The hero to the MAGA nation moniss 5 hrs ago #22
Would the grasp problem affect his golfing? jmbar2 7 hrs ago #2
HE has had time to adapt PCIntern 7 hrs ago #3
I have that myself jmbar2 7 hrs ago #6
When you cheat anyway, hardly matters. dutch777 7 hrs ago #7
Trump often uses "Winter Rules" Ray Bruns 6 hrs ago #11
Trump uses gloves when he golfs dlk 4 hrs ago #29
6. Sundowners GusBob 7 hrs ago #4
No question... PCIntern 7 hrs ago #5
When he can't find a news show about himself, House of Roberts 4 hrs ago #32
I saw most of these symptoms in my former husband. Bumbles 6 hrs ago #8
He's a special case of a psychopath with Farmer-Rick 6 hrs ago #9
My brother who passed recently had Frontotemporal Dementia KS Toronado 6 hrs ago #10
The food issues range from overindulgence to non-eating... PCIntern 6 hrs ago #14
If he did SIL never mentioned them KS Toronado 5 hrs ago #20
Interesting... PCIntern 4 hrs ago #24
You didn't mention that he's a self-indulgent egomaniac who needs a timeout with extreme prejudice. jaxexpat 6 hrs ago #12
Just an observation but I believe he has been a fast food binger for quite some time, this is Bev54 6 hrs ago #13
Whatever diagnosis puts him in a pine box the fastest is fine with me Orrex 5 hrs ago #15
In my mind, he has accepted his election defeat and moved on to deploying "Operation Fifth Avenue" Rocknation 5 hrs ago #16
Simpler diagnosis: syphilitic dementia relayerbob 5 hrs ago #17
Do you suppose he self-diagnosed and self-treated it with "old-fashioned" heavy metals - mercury and arsenic Backseat Driver 4 hrs ago #25
That would assume he can read relayerbob 4 hrs ago #33
Boy, was I wrong! MyOwnPeace 5 hrs ago #18
That's funny PCIntern 5 hrs ago #21
🙋‍♂️ underpants 4 hrs ago #26
Seems very accurate to me. ananda 5 hrs ago #19
I read that Dump eats fast food because he has a fear of being poisoned. Talitha 5 hrs ago #23
I thought the fast food on his private plane was just pandering to "regular guys" underpants 4 hrs ago #27
He just knows what he, himself would do ... dchill 4 hrs ago #30
Maybe there's a video of him groping himself BattleRow 4 hrs ago #28
'as a lay person'... No problem. Dotard makes his own diagnosis about other folks' mental capabilities. keithbvadu2 4 hrs ago #31

moniss

(5,369 posts)
22. The hero to the MAGA nation
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:14 AM
5 hrs ago

because all of those things about him with the behavior, marital infidelity, criminality, menacing and the desire to use physical violence against others are all things they embrace as acceptable not just in a candidate but in their own lives as well.

jmbar2

(5,936 posts)
2. Would the grasp problem affect his golfing?
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:55 AM
7 hrs ago

Seems like it would, but then I'm not a golfer with FTD.

PCIntern

(26,698 posts)
3. HE has had time to adapt
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:56 AM
7 hrs ago

holding a club firmly is a whole lot different than grasping a glass of water and raising it to one's lips. I knew an oral surgeon who could hold the forceps quite firmly and use them, but had difficulty with fine motor skills.

GusBob

(7,484 posts)
4. 6. Sundowners
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:56 AM
7 hrs ago

The all night social media thing for example

I would add: an obsession with the television. My father, when trapped in his own mind would stare at the screen of a TV for hours on end.

PCIntern

(26,698 posts)
5. No question...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 08:58 AM
7 hrs ago

the only thing is that since the teevee is always all about him, I can't really blame him for watching because there is no question that he's a narcissist.

House of Roberts

(5,624 posts)
32. When he can't find a news show about himself,
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:01 PM
4 hrs ago

is when he tweets something outrageous to get his name back on top, unless he's about to do a rally and get to say it in public.

Bumbles

(175 posts)
8. I saw most of these symptoms in my former husband.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:43 AM
6 hrs ago

He needs to be in a care facility. Probably not for very long.

Farmer-Rick

(11,127 posts)
9. He's a special case of a psychopath with
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:50 AM
6 hrs ago

Frontotemporal Dementia.

Weird combination because you can't tell where the one mental illness begins and the other one starts.

Progressive nonfluent aphasia is very rare. Only about 5,000 people in the US have it. (And to think he has some disorder that we call progressive.) This may explain why he seems to be unable to read at times due to his alexia.

KS Toronado

(19,254 posts)
10. My brother who passed recently had Frontotemporal Dementia
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 09:54 AM
6 hrs ago

SIL never mentioned him over eating, quite the opposite he never wanted to eat.

PCIntern

(26,698 posts)
14. The food issues range from overindulgence to non-eating...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:16 AM
6 hrs ago

IT is an abnormal response to food and hunger. Did he have overt sexual issues?

KS Toronado

(19,254 posts)
20. If he did SIL never mentioned them
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:54 AM
5 hrs ago

Last few years only seen him 2/3 times a year. 6 years ago we began to notice him trying to talk and
stumbling trying to remember simple words and at the very last it was blink once for yes, 2 for no and
he'd blink dozens of times. Was a real shame he was a 4.0 student, high IQ, and a memory that was
like a steel trap.

PCIntern

(26,698 posts)
24. Interesting...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:27 AM
4 hrs ago

It's anecdotal I know, but in 45 years of practice the vast number of my dementia patients had been high functioning individuals prior. to their fall from grace. This is anecdotal...I'm not drawing any conclusions. And yes, i know that anyone may have dementia.

Bev54

(11,785 posts)
13. Just an observation but I believe he has been a fast food binger for quite some time, this is
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:13 AM
6 hrs ago

not something new to him. To me it is hard to assess where the moron ends and any disorder begins.

Orrex

(63,862 posts)
15. Whatever diagnosis puts him in a pine box the fastest is fine with me
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:29 AM
5 hrs ago

Even so, your analysis sounds convincing IMO.

Rocknation

(44,818 posts)
16. In my mind, he has accepted his election defeat and moved on to deploying "Operation Fifth Avenue"
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:34 AM
5 hrs ago

deliberately escalating his symptoms in an effort to nullify his legal issues by being declared unfit to stand trial.


Rocknation

relayerbob

(6,944 posts)
17. Simpler diagnosis: syphilitic dementia
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:37 AM
5 hrs ago

He's been nuts for many years, none of this is new, it's just gotten worse and more obvious.

Backseat Driver

(4,604 posts)
25. Do you suppose he self-diagnosed and self-treated it with "old-fashioned" heavy metals - mercury and arsenic
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:36 AM
4 hrs ago

One of my favorite movies taken from a book was Out of Africa - So romantic... looked up the author of the book - Karen Blixen a.k.a. Isak Dinesen - to learn more about her - Here's what wiki said about her background and medical issues; kinda explains "stable genious" and convalescing w/those medical issues though there are similar controversies about the treatment then of the educated aristocratic Europeans pre-penicillin. Although he was a bit younger, it was surprising to me so little was known about the "chronic" form of syphillis and what its toxic treatment might cause.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Blixen
snip

When Blixen was diagnosed with syphilis in 1915, she was treated with mercury tablets. She took approximately 1 gram of mercury per day for almost a year according to some reports,[68] while others show she did so for only a few months.[62] She then spent time in Denmark for treatment and was given arsenic, which she continued to take in drop form as a treatment for the syphilis that she thought was the cause of her continued pain.[69] Blixen had reported severe bouts of abdominal pain as early as 1921, while she was still in Kenya.[62] Several well-known physicians and specialists of both internal medicine and neurology diagnosed her with third-stage chronic syphilis.[70] Mogens Fog, who was Blixen's neurologist, thought that her gastric problems were attributable to syphilis, in spite of the fact that blood and spinal fluid tests were negative.[62][68] By the time she left Africa, Blixen was suffering from anemia, had jaundice and had overused arsenic. As clumps of her hair had begun to fall out, she took to wearing hats and turbans.[71]

Although it was widely believed that syphilis continued to plague Blixen throughout her lifetime,[62][69] extensive tests were unable to reveal evidence of syphilis in her system after 1925.[68] Her writing prowess suggests that she did not suffer from the mental degeneration of late stages of syphilis. She did suffer a mild permanent loss of sensation in her legs that could be attributed to use of the arsenic-based anti-syphilis drug salvarsan.[62] Her gastric pain was often called "tropic dysentery", though no stool analyses were reported in her medical records. Concerned about gaining weight, Blixen took strong laxatives "during her whole adult life", which after years of misuse affected her digestive system. She also was a heavy smoker, which when combined with her minimal food intake led to her developing a peptic ulcer.[70]

In 1946 and 1955 the neurosurgeon Eduard Busch performed a lumbar sympathectomy on Blixen's spinal cord, but her pain returned. In 1956 when she was diagnosed with the stomach ulcer, Professor Torben Knudtzon performed surgery at Copenhagen University Hospital,[69][70] but by that time, she was in her seventies, and already in poor health. Over the next several years, she continued to suffer from dehydration and a lack of nutrition, which rendered her weak and led to four additional hospitalizations at the Central Hospital in Hillerød.[69] Late in her treatment, she finally confessed her use of laxatives to her doctors.[70] The source of her abdominal problems remains unknown. A 1995 report published by the Danish physician, Kaare Weismann, concluded that the cause of her chronic pain and ailment was likely heavy metal poisoning.[62] A 2002 report by Søgaard in the Danish Medical History Journal (Danish: Dansk Medicinhistorisk Årbog) attributed her misdiagnosis to a failure to communicate on both the part of Blixen and her doctors. As she didn't tell them about her laxative misuse, and the physicians believed they were fighting syphilis, each missed the opportunity for effective treatment.[69][70] Both Erik Münster and Weismann also recognized the lapse in communication, as had Blixen been treated with penicillin, which was available by the 1950s, syphilis would have been able to be ruled out.[68][69]

It is also known that Blixen suffered from panic attacks,[71] because she described them in her book Out of Africa.[62] In her analysis of Blixen's medical history, Donelson points out that Blixen wondered if her pain was psychosomatic and states that during Blixen's lifetime her illnesses were rumored to be fabricated. Her publisher indicated that Blixen's syphilis was a myth in private, but publicly, Blixen blamed syphilis for her chronic health issues. Donelson concluded: "Whatever her belief about her illness, the disease suited the artist's design for creating her own personal legend."[62]

Unable to eat, Blixen died in 1962 at Rungstedlund, her family's estate, at the age of 77, apparently of malnutrition.[72][6] Others attribute her weight loss and eventual death to anorexia nervosa.[73]/

relayerbob

(6,944 posts)
33. That would assume he can read
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:02 PM
4 hrs ago

Most likely he didn't do anything about it, or went to some worthless quack.

MyOwnPeace

(17,252 posts)
18. Boy, was I wrong!
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:52 AM
5 hrs ago

I’d thought you’d misspelled Arnie’s name wrong (Palmar Grasp Disorder)! After his ‘sharing’ in Latrobe last weekend I thought you were saying the trump wanted to ‘grasp’ the ‘object’ of his story!!!

Talitha

(7,389 posts)
23. I read that Dump eats fast food because he has a fear of being poisoned.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:19 AM
5 hrs ago

When you send someone out for fast food, you're safe. He eats regular stuff at Maga-Lardo though, so I guess he trusts his kitchen staff.

BTW, who goes around poisoning people? Yeah well, there's always that guy...

underpants

(186,056 posts)
27. I thought the fast food on his private plane was just pandering to "regular guys"
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:47 AM
4 hrs ago

No it’s because he really fears being poisoned. He figures there’s no way anyone could figure out what KFC or McD’s he’s going to stop at. He even was sending White House kitchen staff out to get McD’s at random locations. He didn’t trust the WHITE HOUSE CHEFS.

He has a very specific system to pop ketchup bottles beside his table so he knows it hasn’t been tampered with.

I don’t know how long he’s had this fear but it’s pretty obvious that at least now he knows the history of who he’s dealing with.

BattleRow

(992 posts)
28. Maybe there's a video of him groping himself
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:48 AM
4 hrs ago

After all it WOULD be a consensual moment with someone he loves.

keithbvadu2

(39,682 posts)
31. 'as a lay person'... No problem. Dotard makes his own diagnosis about other folks' mental capabilities.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:57 AM
4 hrs ago
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