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JohnSJ

(95,609 posts)
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:08 AM 6 hrs ago

From my perspective Harris-Walz are running an almost perfect campaign. I seriously don't think we couldn't be doing

any better.

If we don't win this election it won't be because of our candidate(s), it will be because America is no longer America.

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From my perspective Harris-Walz are running an almost perfect campaign. I seriously don't think we couldn't be doing (Original Post) JohnSJ 6 hrs ago OP
Harris has to be perfect kevink077 6 hrs ago #1
We couldn't do any better than what we are doing. JohnSJ 6 hrs ago #2
I have a theory. madaboutharry 5 hrs ago #3
Makes sense JohnSJ 5 hrs ago #6
A lot of people aren't comfortable with uncertainty Mosby 3 hrs ago #8
I said this to wifey yesterday. It is near perfect, especially when you consider the time constraints. Ferrets are Cool 5 hrs ago #4
Agree. Campaign has been amazing. Media outlets have not. nt wiggs 5 hrs ago #5
Quite satisfied with our team, they're campaigning hard. Just no longer sure how many deplorables there are in USA. Silent Type 4 hrs ago #7
If she loses... lame54 3 hrs ago #9
I think her strategy will come into question if she loses. Self Esteem 3 hrs ago #10

madaboutharry

(41,163 posts)
3. I have a theory.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:19 AM
5 hrs ago

I think life breaks some people. That makes them easy marks for another broken person who possesses the malignant narcissism to manipulate and control them. It turns into co-dependancy. That is how cults work. Nearly half of the American people have been swept up into a cult. It really is a remarkable (in a bad way) thing to live through.

I pray every day that the clear-minded rational thinkers outnumber those who are broken.

Mosby

(17,237 posts)
8. A lot of people aren't comfortable with uncertainty
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:32 PM
3 hrs ago

They need order and prefer to think in absolutes.

People like psychics leverage this dynamic, and astrology fits well with this type of thinking.

RW politicians with their use of dichotomist reasoning are doing the same thing, they are creating false narratives that simplify the world and provide answers (usually wrong) to their followers. Sects and cults do the exact same thing. Being a "broken person" just makes them more susceptible to dichotomist thinking processes.

That's my theory.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,709 posts)
4. I said this to wifey yesterday. It is near perfect, especially when you consider the time constraints.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 10:44 AM
5 hrs ago

The team is magnificent.

Silent Type

(6,038 posts)
7. Quite satisfied with our team, they're campaigning hard. Just no longer sure how many deplorables there are in USA.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 11:30 AM
4 hrs ago

lame54

(36,539 posts)
9. If she loses...
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:38 PM
3 hrs ago

You'll hear a thousand theories of the ONE thing she should of done or said that would have put Trump away

She is definitely doing her part
The rest is up to us

Self Esteem

(1,365 posts)
10. I think her strategy will come into question if she loses.
Thu Oct 24, 2024, 12:58 PM
3 hrs ago

And that's the strategy of obviously appealing to disenfranchised Republicans who have been turned off by Trump. Her embrace of Liz Cheney on the campaign trail is a risky move in the sense it's not something that inspires the base - or more progressive voters who still have a lot of reservations about the Cheneys.

It's a bet on those Haley voters.

That seems to be the campaign's closing message: Trump is a threat to democracy.

We will see how effective it is. If she loses because enough liberals drifted third party, denying her key wins, while she was unable to win over skeptical Republicans, the strategy will have backfired.

But if she wins, then she obviously was able to shift the message in a tough election.

What people don't want to admit is that the Democrats entered this race decided underdogs. Joe Biden was not on the course to victory and his dropping out revived the party's chances. And I say this as someone who did not want Biden to drop out. But it's become increasingly clear Donald Trump was the favorite in this election before Harris shook up the race and made it a toss-up.

But it also showcases something so few here want to admit: the conditions of the country at the moment, whether realized or perceived, have made this an environment that is extremely helpful to Trump and why he stands a good chance of winning.

Harris isn't going to win this by a lot. She just isn't. Her campaign is convinced this is a toss-up, a coin-flip. And because she has more must-win states to defend than Trump, the odds might actually be against her since to win, she'll need heads to come up probably four times out of seven attempts.

Possible, of course, but a challenge.

The thing is, that's put her at a disadvantage from the start, so even if she loses, it's hard to be too critical knowing she was fighting as the underdog from the start.

So, yeah, if going all-in on the Never Trumpers fails to get her votes, you could question if running more left would have helped.

But it's no guarantee because this isn't 2016 where Harris was the favorite from the start and miscalculated the mood of the country and lost in an upset.

The fact this is a 50/50 race at this point, when Trump was looking to be in full control back in July, is a minor-miracle and indicates the campaign has made the right decisions.

Unfortunately, it also means this is not remotely a sure-thing. If Harris wins, it might not be an upset but it will be a win that went against the prevailing headwinds.

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