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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo Dubya calling the Constitution a goddam piece
Of paper set the tone. GOP created the monsters we are now facing.
Historical perspective. One could assert that Reagan started the fire; ironic that the President of the Screen Workers Guild union would end up being anti union. Reagan, Add Limbaugh and Faux News and here we are. Pitiful.
verargert
(141 posts)Evolve Dammit
(19,216 posts)Mysterian
(5,214 posts)Asleep at the wheel failed to prevent 9-11 attack. Invaded Iraq for corporate profits. The people cheered.
BOSSHOG
(40,391 posts)Mysterian
(5,214 posts)with their Purple Heart bandaids.
Blue Full Moon
(1,358 posts)Reagan terms was Bush Sr., Then Bush Sr and then Ws terms were Bush Sr. as well.
Evolve Dammit
(19,216 posts)orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Evolve Dammit
(19,216 posts)orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Goldwater gave respectability to the far right, and changed conservatism to right-wing radicalism. This, right after old "military-industrial complex" Eisenhower. There were liberal Republicans back then.
The speechwriter who penned that line became an anarchist, with permanent liens on income from the IRS. He bartered welded metal sculptures to pay his lawyers. I guess he'd be a sovereign citizen now.
JT45242
(3,005 posts)After watching ultra, I feel confident that it goes back to this group not facing consequences because Truman was a spineless piece of crap who protected his congressional buddies.
Then the McCarthy republican traitors faced no consequences including Nixon who became ever bolder.
Nixon won the election in 1968 by committing treason to keep the north Vietnamese away from the peace conference. No consequences.
Listen to Bagman and you see the corruption in bush senior, and all the usual suspects protecting Agnew. They probably had their own republican form of kompromat on a lot of grifters in congress who were protecting him. No real consequences for Agnew or any of the real leaders of the crimes in Nixon's cabinet.
In fact. The republican dirtbag at DOJ who said to turn radio and TV was put on the supreme Court and killed the fairness doctrine. Great documentary on this part.
https://www.amazon.com/Brainwashing-My-Dad-Matthew-Modine/dp/B01C69O9ZE
Reagan and the hostages....I could go on.
But it runs way deeper than W.
Blue Full Moon
(1,358 posts)Warner von Braun was prison warden where they hung the 3 slowest workers every day. For some forsaken reason this country wanted to turn him into a hero. It used to be on the NASA website but they have recently scrubbed it.
Hate to say it but we should have done them like Russia did. They spread like the cockroaches they are.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)90% of Nazi casualties were on the Eastern Front. The Soviets lost 20 million people. Hitler committed suicide rather than face the Red Army when they took Berlin. The brutality of the Nazi-Soviet confrontation is hard for us to conceive. Hitler's plan of genocide included the Slavs, who he called Untermenschen (subhuman). He tried to exterminate the Slavs to make Lebensraum for his "master race".
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Slavery. Genocide. Imperialism.
In contrast, we also had abolitionists and people like General Smedley Butler.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 June 21, 1940) was a United States Marine Corps officer and writer. During his 34-year military career, he fought in the PhilippineAmerican War, the Boxer Rebellion, the Mexican Revolution, World War I, and the Banana Wars. At the time of his death, Butler was the most decorated Marine in U.S. military history.
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After retiring from the Marine Corps, Butler became an outspoken critic of American foreign policy and military interventions, which he saw being driven primarily by U.S. business interests. In 1935, Butler wrote the book War Is a Racket, where he argued that imperialist motivations had been the cause behind several American interventions, many of which he personally participated in.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,875 posts)against FDR in 1933.
He was quite a guy.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Phormio
(8 posts)was an all- time American hero. A detailed summary of the plot to depose FDR in 1933 and how he thwarted it is here: https://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/02/27/95580/-The-Real-Plot-to-Overthrow-FDR-s-America?detail=email
Worth a read. Shows that wealthy fascist individuals and corporations have a long history of trying to overthrow our democracy.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)In 1971, the US Chamber of Commerce hired future Supreme Lewis Powell to write a long-term plan.
The "Powell Memo" spells out in detail much of our current headlines.
Their generational wealth gives them the luxury to hatch very long-term, decades-long, planning.
https://billmoyers.com/content/the-powell-memo-a-call-to-arms-for-corporations/
https://www.whitehouse.senate.gov/news/speeches/the-scheme-1-the-powell-memo/
Know the enemy.
TwilightZone
(28,834 posts)Reagan, Atwater, Gingrich, Rush, other right-wing talk radio. They're much more responsible for where we are than W. W looks positively quaint compared to the degenerates the right has now.
The seeds were planted by Reagan, who reinvigorated the liberal-as-insult strategy.
By the way, there's no evidence that Bush ever really said that. The sole source retracted the story, saying that their sources were unreliable. The myth persists, of course, and always will.
https://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/bush-the-constitution-a-goddamned-piece-of-paper/
no_hypocrisy
(49,333 posts)called the Geneva Conventions both obsolete and quaint.
Evolve Dammit
(19,216 posts)Crowman2009
(2,864 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 26, 2024, 08:48 PM - Edit history (1)
The GOPers trying to appeal to the wacko for Waco crowd pretty much snowballed into the MAGA movement of today.
paleotn
(19,617 posts)He's the primary author of the southern strategy. Reagan was just the paid spokesman.
Clouds Passing
(2,894 posts)saved us from their facist agenda.Kamala will do the same!
catchnrelease
(2,018 posts)Way back in the early 80s the place I where worked often had volunteers/interns that trained with us. One I've always remembered. His father was a well known actor on a successful and long running tv series. Somehow in conversation R Reagan came up and the volunteer said 'Oh no, his name is not allowed to be spoken in our home!!'. It was because of the way RR had sold out the actors guild. Even tho' this guys father's show had run for years, he got no residuals from it due to the deal made with the studios. I always think of that when I hear about RR as the head of SAG. Willing to screw over his fellow actors for his own gain (he was not only an actor but also a producer).
I've since read that Reagan was a confidential informant for the FBI, according to classified documents, and as president of SAG he provided actors files to FBI agents.
What a stellar guy...
Evolve Dammit
(19,216 posts)Martin68
(24,777 posts)dangerous, but we couldn't anticipate how far they would end up pursuing absolute power no matter what the cost. They pulled out all stops to win no mater what, and bend the rules anyway they thought would get the result they wanted. I don't believe Dubya had the intelligence, education, or insight to see where it might end up, but all they needed was a useful psycho like Trump, and an unprincipled hack like McConnell to take it to the limit: pack the Supreme court with conservatives, weaponize the DOJ, use lies to get votes from the uneducated under-informed lower economic populations, and manipulate the electoral system. Dick Cheney showed them how to use the system to punish enemies. Camus explained why the ends never justify the means, and that they will always distort the actual result if the means are corrupt.
Evolve Dammit
(19,216 posts)travelingthrulife
(1,016 posts)This has been a long term plan.
BeyondGeography
(40,085 posts)Zero consequences for the latter. Won 49 states in his reelection campaign. Rode off into the sunset.
Were still dealing with the damage.