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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSurprise. The "secret" turned out to be nothing.
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It was like watching a couple of seven-year-olds: "We've got a secret! Na na na na na na na!"
If it was a secret, they wouldn't have been talking about it. Just another distraction.
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/speaker-mike-johnson-sheds-light-secret-trump-rcna177802
Edit: it's been pointed out repeatedly that I shouldn't believe anything Johnson says. I don't -- I didn't believe there was ever a secret in the first place. It seemed like an obvious distraction as I have noted on the topic in this and other threads the past couple of days. His ham-handed response only makes it more obvious.
I do find it hilarious, however, that those chastising me for believing Johnson seem to have accepted without question that there was a secret in the first place, simply because he and Trump said so.
Kind of selective, isn't that?


Diamond_Dog
(36,481 posts)Deuxcents
(21,613 posts)chicoescuela
(1,933 posts)H2O Man
(76,502 posts)They hope to create enough confusion to send it to the House.
Eliot Rosewater
(32,821 posts)
H2O Man
(76,502 posts)It is so obviously their "secret" that it doesn't seem any need to explain why the felon was talking about it, or why the Speaker is saying there is no secret.
TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)I edited my post to further explain, but it was obvious that there never was a secret. Johnson's odd response only makes it more obvious.
As dumb as Trump and Johnson are, they're not going to make public their plans, especially if they differ from 2020 in any meaningful way. It was just a playground taunt. Trump has been doing stuff like that for a decade or more.
kwolf68
(7,980 posts)Total bullshit. That's no secret, that's the goal of all political candidates. DickMike is trying to unring the bell.
servermsh
(1,406 posts)He says, "just wait, I have something coming!".
He's done it over and over again. It's meaningless. Yet it generated endless DU posts about it.
TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)Why anyone ever takes anything he says at face value is beyond my understanding.
Especially something so obviously intended to be contentious.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,105 posts)donald isn't smart enough to KEEP it secret but Mike knows better.
TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)Do you see the problem here?
Don't believe anything he says, except when he says he has a secret.
Sure, go with that.
This is hilarious. We sure are selective.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,105 posts)
TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)why would you believe him when he says he has a secret?
Sorry, but "he can't keep a secret" is silly. It was clearly a distraction. He does stuff like this all the time. He puts out the bait. We take it every, single time.
Servermsh put it perfectly in another response:
He says, "just wait, I have something coming!".
He's done it over and over again. It's meaningless. Yet it generated endless DU posts about it.
Ferrets are Cool
(22,105 posts)
H2O Man
(76,502 posts)I agree.
W_HAMILTON
(8,847 posts)I have no doubt Trump was referring to House Republicans at least attempting to fuck things up if/when Kamala wins.
I'm sure Trump pressured Johnson the same way he pressured Pence -- and I have no doubt that Johnson would have completely capitulated.
So, the only issue is whether Johnson can/will follow through with it.
TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)Or they wouldn't have been talking about it. We fall for this stuff every time.
If we're not supposed to believe anything Johnson says, why did you believe him when he said he had a secret?
W_HAMILTON
(8,847 posts)...and perpetual dipshit that can never stick to the script when it comes to things like this
There are no grand diversions and distractions at play here -- it's just a loudmouth narcissist pulling the same crap he has ever since he first infected our politics.
And remember when Trump was playing kingmaker back when Republicans were going through House Speakers like they were tissue? You can guaran-damn-tee Trump made Johnson commit to some undemocratic shit if the 2024 election were to end up like the 2020 election...
nilram
(3,134 posts)in the first place. Johnson is much better at keeping secrets--and lying.
rubbersole
(9,625 posts)...What Would Moses Do 🤔 🫧?
0rganism
(24,943 posts)Never trusted him all that much before, why should I start now? Deflections, denials, and coverups are a thing.
Maybe it's nothing. I guess we'll find out in about a week.
edisdead
(3,359 posts)TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)Wait, you believed him when he said he had a secret?
Hell, you believed both of them. What were you thinking? Why would you believe them?
I'm joking, mostly, but I find it hilarious that people believed what they said about the secret and now want to chastise people for pointing out that it was nonsense all along.
BOSSHOG
(41,835 posts)Josh was substituting for CJ a the podium. He said President Bartlett had a Secret Plan to fight Inflation. The President didn’t. CJ kicked Josh’s butt.
That was funny fiction. Johnson is a treasonous bastard. Compare and contrast.
bullimiami
(14,032 posts)If he’s said it it was in his mind.
He was obviously thinking he had a scheme on with Johnson.
It didn’t come from thin air.
Something happened and Trump thought they had a deal. Maybe Johnson just gave it a nod so it would go away but his statement, I would bet you dollars to donut holes, is a lie.
TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)servermsh said it perfectly
He says, "just wait, I have something coming!".
He's done it over and over again. It's meaningless. Yet it generated endless DU posts about it.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219627502#post4
Docreed2003
(18,131 posts)Trump can't help himself and exposed his "plan"...meanwhile Johnson, who is at least sane, is trying to deflect. Their plan may be nothing more than Trump calling in the night to relive his 2020 fantasies but if it's more than that, Johnson needs to look like he's in the clear
TwilightZone
(28,835 posts)No one should ever take anything Trump says at face value. Ever.
As servermsh said above, he does this all the time, and we fall for it every time.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219627502#post4
SalviaBlue
(3,065 posts)
stumpysbear
(227 posts)Prairie Gates
(4,708 posts)and we can use Johnson's statement today as proof that it "turned out to be nothing" even if we don't believe him because it's obvious anyway. This place is hilarious hahaha DUers always falling for things.
Very clear exposition. Bravo.
Patterson
(1,579 posts)vanlassie
(5,925 posts)niyad
(123,056 posts)A "crowd" of ninety!
And, mikey, usually when one has a secret, one does not go around bragging about same. Just a helpful little hint.
Catherine Vincent
(34,549 posts)Not that I was waiting but what happened to some bad stuff dropping soon about Trump?
Ford_Prefect
(8,313 posts)Said during an interview before he was "elected".
When they say the quiet parts out loud, believe them. They are telling you what they are about to do.
The "secret" remark was code, along with "stand back and stand by", as a precursor and instruction to to those preparing to do mayhem during the election, and beyond. Whatever chaos they plan on generating, whatever harm they intend to act out, whatever secret plans they have among people high and low, they will do outrageous and cruel things far beyond what they have performed previously.
Fiddlelady11
(62 posts)Should remember that Biden has presidential immunity. And he will use it if he has to…..
duncang
(3,767 posts)And tried to get him to commit to fraudulent acts. It’s a different thing to say Johnson has agreed to anything. I can see Johnson telling tfg we will get out the vote and he will win trying to distract tfg while trying to stay out of jail himself. TFG’s people going to Johnson’s aides trying to push ways to overturn the election. Then tfg’s people coming back saying they talked to them. Tfg going with the idea it’s in the bag since he deludes his self. I can see all of that happening. Just like I’m sure he thought he had the votes he wanted after he talked to Raffensperger.