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TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:20 PM Oct 2024

Surprise. The "secret" turned out to be nothing.

Last edited Tue Oct 29, 2024, 11:15 PM - Edit history (3)

It was like watching a couple of seven-year-olds: "We've got a secret! Na na na na na na na!"

If it was a secret, they wouldn't have been talking about it. Just another distraction.

“It’s nothing scandalous, but we’re having a ball with this. The media, their heads are exploding. ‘What is the secret?’” Johnson told a crowd of about 90 people on Monday at a rally to support GOP congressional candidate Ryan Mackenzie, after a person in the crowd asked about the comment. “It’s this thing we have about — it’s a get-out-the-vote. It’s one of our tactics on get-out-the-vote,” Johnson said.


https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/speaker-mike-johnson-sheds-light-secret-trump-rcna177802

Edit: it's been pointed out repeatedly that I shouldn't believe anything Johnson says. I don't -- I didn't believe there was ever a secret in the first place. It seemed like an obvious distraction as I have noted on the topic in this and other threads the past couple of days. His ham-handed response only makes it more obvious.

I do find it hilarious, however, that those chastising me for believing Johnson seem to have accepted without question that there was a secret in the first place, simply because he and Trump said so.

Kind of selective, isn't that?
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Surprise. The "secret" turned out to be nothing. (Original Post) TwilightZone Oct 2024 OP
This does not surprise me. Diamond_Dog Oct 2024 #1
Johnson is about as believable as TSF, in my view, anyway. I don't trust either one of them. Deuxcents Oct 2024 #2
Agree, they do have something cooked up chicoescuela Oct 2024 #18
Right. H2O Man Oct 2024 #22
Yep, at which point the traitor is president. They must hear from us that we will NOT tolerate it Eliot Rosewater Oct 2024 #26
Exactly. H2O Man Oct 2024 #30
Neither do I. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #25
"Get Out the Vote"? kwolf68 Oct 2024 #3
It's actually standard Trump authoritarian nonsense he's been doing for years servermsh Oct 2024 #4
Exactly. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #13
Bullshit. If you believe ANYTHING MagaMike says, I have some swamp land to sell ya. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2024 #5
And, yet, you believed him when he said he had a secret. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #15
Because donald is too stupid to NOT keep one. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2024 #20
If we're never supposed to believe anything he says... TwilightZone Oct 2024 #28
Whatever. You have your mind made up and so do I. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2024 #31
Right. H2O Man Oct 2024 #23
Bold of you to trust him. W_HAMILTON Oct 2024 #6
I don't trust him, but it couldn't be more obvious that there never was a secret. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #10
It wouldn't be believing Johnson -- it first came from Trump, the known blabbermouth... W_HAMILTON Oct 2024 #39
Exactly. Trump can't keep a secret, that's why it came out nilram Oct 2024 #29
WWMD... rubbersole Oct 2024 #37
or Mike Johnson is lying 0rganism Oct 2024 #7
wait you believe him... You believe any of these ratfuckers? edisdead Oct 2024 #8
Nope, but it was clearly obvious there never was a secret. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #12
It was on West Wing BOSSHOG Oct 2024 #9
Liar. Christian values Mike.Trumps filter is broken. bullimiami Oct 2024 #11
He does this all the time and we fall for it every time. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #17
Johnson is out trying to cover his ass Docreed2003 Oct 2024 #14
Sorry, not buying that. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #16
My god, Johnson is lame. SalviaBlue Oct 2024 #19
Johnson is scared to go to jail would be my guess. stumpysbear Oct 2024 #21
We don't believe Trump or Johnson but it's obvious that there was no secret Prairie Gates Oct 2024 #24
He's probably lying. Patterson Oct 2024 #27
I thought Elon was hired to GOTV. vanlassie Oct 2024 #32
I'm giggling here. VP Harris has a CROWD of 75,000+. jerk johnson's "crowd" of 90. niyad Oct 2024 #33
This reminds me... Catherine Vincent Oct 2024 #34
"If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier... as long as I'm the dictator. Hehehe." G.W. Bush Ford_Prefect Oct 2024 #35
Johnson and Trump Fiddlelady11 Oct 2024 #36
I wouldn't doubt tfg has spoken to Johnson duncang Oct 2024 #38

Deuxcents

(21,613 posts)
2. Johnson is about as believable as TSF, in my view, anyway. I don't trust either one of them.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:23 PM
Oct 2024

Eliot Rosewater

(32,821 posts)
26. Yep, at which point the traitor is president. They must hear from us that we will NOT tolerate it
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 11:13 PM
Oct 2024
or sure as FUCK they will do it. THis is not a secret however, they have made it clear for months they intend to do this.

H2O Man

(76,502 posts)
30. Exactly.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 11:20 PM
Oct 2024

It is so obviously their "secret" that it doesn't seem any need to explain why the felon was talking about it, or why the Speaker is saying there is no secret.

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
25. Neither do I.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 11:11 PM
Oct 2024

I edited my post to further explain, but it was obvious that there never was a secret. Johnson's odd response only makes it more obvious.

As dumb as Trump and Johnson are, they're not going to make public their plans, especially if they differ from 2020 in any meaningful way. It was just a playground taunt. Trump has been doing stuff like that for a decade or more.

kwolf68

(7,980 posts)
3. "Get Out the Vote"?
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:24 PM
Oct 2024

Total bullshit. That's no secret, that's the goal of all political candidates. DickMike is trying to unring the bell.

servermsh

(1,406 posts)
4. It's actually standard Trump authoritarian nonsense he's been doing for years
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:24 PM
Oct 2024

He says, "just wait, I have something coming!".

He's done it over and over again. It's meaningless. Yet it generated endless DU posts about it.

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
13. Exactly.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:38 PM
Oct 2024

Why anyone ever takes anything he says at face value is beyond my understanding.

Especially something so obviously intended to be contentious.

Ferrets are Cool

(22,105 posts)
5. Bullshit. If you believe ANYTHING MagaMike says, I have some swamp land to sell ya.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:25 PM
Oct 2024

donald isn't smart enough to KEEP it secret but Mike knows better.

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
15. And, yet, you believed him when he said he had a secret.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:40 PM
Oct 2024

Do you see the problem here?

Don't believe anything he says, except when he says he has a secret.

Sure, go with that.

This is hilarious. We sure are selective.

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
28. If we're never supposed to believe anything he says...
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 11:14 PM
Oct 2024

why would you believe him when he says he has a secret?

Sorry, but "he can't keep a secret" is silly. It was clearly a distraction. He does stuff like this all the time. He puts out the bait. We take it every, single time.

Servermsh put it perfectly in another response:

It's actually standard Trump authoritarian nonsense he's been doing for years

He says, "just wait, I have something coming!".

He's done it over and over again. It's meaningless. Yet it generated endless DU posts about it.

W_HAMILTON

(8,847 posts)
6. Bold of you to trust him.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:25 PM
Oct 2024

I have no doubt Trump was referring to House Republicans at least attempting to fuck things up if/when Kamala wins.

I'm sure Trump pressured Johnson the same way he pressured Pence -- and I have no doubt that Johnson would have completely capitulated.

So, the only issue is whether Johnson can/will follow through with it.

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
10. I don't trust him, but it couldn't be more obvious that there never was a secret.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:32 PM
Oct 2024

Or they wouldn't have been talking about it. We fall for this stuff every time.

If we're not supposed to believe anything Johnson says, why did you believe him when he said he had a secret?

W_HAMILTON

(8,847 posts)
39. It wouldn't be believing Johnson -- it first came from Trump, the known blabbermouth...
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 11:23 AM
Oct 2024

...and perpetual dipshit that can never stick to the script when it comes to things like this

There are no grand diversions and distractions at play here -- it's just a loudmouth narcissist pulling the same crap he has ever since he first infected our politics.

And remember when Trump was playing kingmaker back when Republicans were going through House Speakers like they were tissue? You can guaran-damn-tee Trump made Johnson commit to some undemocratic shit if the 2024 election were to end up like the 2020 election...

nilram

(3,134 posts)
29. Exactly. Trump can't keep a secret, that's why it came out
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 11:19 PM
Oct 2024

in the first place. Johnson is much better at keeping secrets--and lying.

0rganism

(24,943 posts)
7. or Mike Johnson is lying
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:28 PM
Oct 2024

Never trusted him all that much before, why should I start now? Deflections, denials, and coverups are a thing.

Maybe it's nothing. I guess we'll find out in about a week.

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
12. Nope, but it was clearly obvious there never was a secret.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:36 PM
Oct 2024

Wait, you believed him when he said he had a secret?

Hell, you believed both of them. What were you thinking? Why would you believe them?

I'm joking, mostly, but I find it hilarious that people believed what they said about the secret and now want to chastise people for pointing out that it was nonsense all along.

BOSSHOG

(41,835 posts)
9. It was on West Wing
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:29 PM
Oct 2024

Josh was substituting for CJ a the podium. He said President Bartlett had a Secret Plan to fight Inflation. The President didn’t. CJ kicked Josh’s butt.

That was funny fiction. Johnson is a treasonous bastard. Compare and contrast.

bullimiami

(14,032 posts)
11. Liar. Christian values Mike.Trumps filter is broken.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:33 PM
Oct 2024

If he’s said it it was in his mind.
He was obviously thinking he had a scheme on with Johnson.
It didn’t come from thin air.

Something happened and Trump thought they had a deal. Maybe Johnson just gave it a nod so it would go away but his statement, I would bet you dollars to donut holes, is a lie.

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
17. He does this all the time and we fall for it every time.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:44 PM
Oct 2024

servermsh said it perfectly

It's actually standard Trump authoritarian nonsense he's been doing for years

He says, "just wait, I have something coming!".

He's done it over and over again. It's meaningless. Yet it generated endless DU posts about it.


https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219627502#post4

Docreed2003

(18,131 posts)
14. Johnson is out trying to cover his ass
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:38 PM
Oct 2024

Trump can't help himself and exposed his "plan"...meanwhile Johnson, who is at least sane, is trying to deflect. Their plan may be nothing more than Trump calling in the night to relive his 2020 fantasies but if it's more than that, Johnson needs to look like he's in the clear

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
16. Sorry, not buying that.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:42 PM
Oct 2024

No one should ever take anything Trump says at face value. Ever.

As servermsh said above, he does this all the time, and we fall for it every time.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219627502#post4

Prairie Gates

(4,708 posts)
24. We don't believe Trump or Johnson but it's obvious that there was no secret
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 10:58 PM
Oct 2024

and we can use Johnson's statement today as proof that it "turned out to be nothing" even if we don't believe him because it's obvious anyway. This place is hilarious hahaha DUers always falling for things.

Very clear exposition. Bravo.

niyad

(123,056 posts)
33. I'm giggling here. VP Harris has a CROWD of 75,000+. jerk johnson's "crowd" of 90.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 11:52 PM
Oct 2024

A "crowd" of ninety!

And, mikey, usually when one has a secret, one does not go around bragging about same. Just a helpful little hint.

Catherine Vincent

(34,549 posts)
34. This reminds me...
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 12:54 AM
Oct 2024

Not that I was waiting but what happened to some bad stuff dropping soon about Trump?

Ford_Prefect

(8,313 posts)
35. "If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier... as long as I'm the dictator. Hehehe." G.W. Bush
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:06 AM
Oct 2024

Said during an interview before he was "elected".

When they say the quiet parts out loud, believe them. They are telling you what they are about to do.

The "secret" remark was code, along with "stand back and stand by", as a precursor and instruction to to those preparing to do mayhem during the election, and beyond. Whatever chaos they plan on generating, whatever harm they intend to act out, whatever secret plans they have among people high and low, they will do outrageous and cruel things far beyond what they have performed previously.

Fiddlelady11

(62 posts)
36. Johnson and Trump
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:08 AM
Oct 2024

Should remember that Biden has presidential immunity. And he will use it if he has to…..

duncang

(3,767 posts)
38. I wouldn't doubt tfg has spoken to Johnson
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:12 AM
Oct 2024

And tried to get him to commit to fraudulent acts. It’s a different thing to say Johnson has agreed to anything. I can see Johnson telling tfg we will get out the vote and he will win trying to distract tfg while trying to stay out of jail himself. TFG’s people going to Johnson’s aides trying to push ways to overturn the election. Then tfg’s people coming back saying they talked to them. Tfg going with the idea it’s in the bag since he deludes his self. I can see all of that happening. Just like I’m sure he thought he had the votes he wanted after he talked to Raffensperger.

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