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demmiblue

(37,885 posts)
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:33 PM Nov 1

Democrats have a plan if Trump prematurely declares election victory

Nov 1 (Reuters) - Democrats are readying a rapid-fire response to flood social media and the airwaves with calls for calm and patience with vote-counting should Donald Trump try to prematurely claim election victory, as he did in 2020, Harris campaign and party officials told Reuters.

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"We are sadly ready if he does and, if we know that he is actually manipulating the press and attempting to manipulate the consensus of the American people ... we are prepared to respond," Harris said in an interview with ABC on Wednesday.

She gave no details of those preparations, but six Democratic Party and Harris campaign officials said the initial fight against any early Trump victory claim would take place in the court of public opinion. They plan to flood social media and television airwaves with demands that all votes be counted before victories are declared.

"As soon as he (Trump) falsely declares victory, we're ready to get up on TV and provide the truth and tap a broad network of people who can use their influence to push back," a top official with the Democratic National Committee said in an interview.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/democrats-have-plan-if-trump-prematurely-declares-election-victory-2024-11-01/
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Democrats have a plan if Trump prematurely declares election victory (Original Post) demmiblue Nov 1 OP
I don't recall where the 12th Amendment says Otto_Harper Nov 1 #1
It probably says that somewhere in Project 2025.... AZ8theist Nov 2 #20
Not if, when. dalton99a Nov 1 #2
Beat me to it hibbing Nov 1 #5
Exactly what I was gonna say! WestMichRad Nov 1 #8
Roy Cohn taught little donnie to never admit defeat KS Toronado Nov 1 #9
As if it were... 2naSalit Nov 1 #3
I dont think they should wait Libloom Nov 1 #4
They're not waiting; you're responding to the start, as evidenced in the OP. Hermit-The-Prog Nov 1 #10
This paragraph gives me hope... Hekate Nov 1 #6
It's reassurring. wnylib Nov 2 #24
Hope this won't be necessary Randomthought Nov 1 #7
While that would be wonderful, it is sadly n a i v e. It can't happen. We want ALL the votes to count, not just enough Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2 #18
It will be. DiverDave Nov 2 #26
The Dems also have DownriverDem Nov 1 #11
And from today's Heather Cox Richardson... RobertDevereaux Nov 2 #22
Plus he has been whining and lying.... Dem4life1970 Nov 1 #12
Today I got a request for money that I didn't ignore. vanlassie Nov 1 #13
Well Harris/Walz at 1PM EST will be up 70,000,000 to 23,000,000 for the shitter verargert Nov 1 #14
Why wait? Do it now! Tesha Nov 1 #15
That's good, because he will. n/t D23MIURG23 Nov 2 #16
Anyone who doesn't realize it takes longer than 9pm or 11pm on Election Night to determine who the ACTUAL Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2 #17
He learned all this from Roy Cohn. According to the movie "The Apprentice" 4lbs Nov 2 #19
Thank goodness our side has learned the bitter lesson Hekate Nov 2 #21
His reputation precedes him bucolic_frolic Nov 2 #23
Same guy who claimed he won the debate 90-10 ThoughtCriminal Nov 2 #25
This ought to be happening now, preemptively, Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2 #27
Announcing early may be illegal LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2 #28
Media needs to step up next week. ZonkerHarris Nov 2 #29

Otto_Harper

(776 posts)
1. I don't recall where the 12th Amendment says
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 02:45 PM
Nov 1
On the date assigned for a general electiion, following the conclusion of all balloting, that candidate which immediately declares victory, ahead of any and all challengers, shall be immediately declared to be, and seated as President of the United States of America.

WestMichRad

(1,915 posts)
8. Exactly what I was gonna say!
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 04:17 PM
Nov 1

He’s already declared himself the winner: “The only was I can lose is if there is fraud.”

KS Toronado

(19,760 posts)
9. Roy Cohn taught little donnie to never admit defeat
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 04:42 PM
Nov 1

always claim to be the winner, he'll be saying we cheated him again on election night.

In addition to ads to remain calm until all votes are counted, how about one with Joseph Goebbels on one
side of the screen telling people if they lie often enough people will believe it as truth, and little donnie
on the other half crying about a stolen election. SOME PEOPLE NEVER LEARN TO TELL THE TRUTH.

Libloom

(38 posts)
4. I dont think they should wait
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 03:44 PM
Nov 1

Until he prematurely declares. They should start on election day or really even now would be good.

We know he's going to do it, but there are likely many people who don't—and those are the ones who need to be aware, so they can be less susceptible to his attempts to manipulate their opinions and emotions.

Hekate

(95,456 posts)
6. This paragraph gives me hope...
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 04:09 PM
Nov 1
"As soon as he (Trump) falsely declares victory, we're ready to get up on TV and provide the truth and tap a broad network of people who can use their influence to push back," a top official with the Democratic National Committee said in an interview.

Randomthought

(897 posts)
7. Hope this won't be necessary
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 04:12 PM
Nov 1

I'm hoping Harris wins so big that all major networks declare her the winner right after the polls close on the west coast

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(1,049 posts)
18. While that would be wonderful, it is sadly n a i v e. It can't happen. We want ALL the votes to count, not just enough
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:49 AM
Nov 2

to get us ahead of the other side. We’re the honest ones, remember. 🤓


Edits: system doesn’t like the word N A I V E; can’t figure it out!!! Keeps changing it to NAVE. 😂

DiverDave

(5,035 posts)
26. It will be.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 01:54 PM
Nov 2

He wants to have a rabid response to losing.
I'm sure he will lose. He knows it too.
But, he really thinks (IMO) that he can be enshrined if people go crazy and hurt people.
He doesn't care if people die.
The government is prepared.
I do hope nobody is hurt.

DownriverDem

(6,698 posts)
11. The Dems also have
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 04:46 PM
Nov 1

an army of lawyers on stand by to stop MAGAs too. trump seems focused on PA. I'm not sure why. PA, WI & MI have Dem governors focused on the election too. The fact that Biden is in the White House will help too. What a shame that it's come to this.

RobertDevereaux

(1,950 posts)
22. And from today's Heather Cox Richardson...
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 12:54 PM
Nov 2

“Washington State governor Jay Inslee has activated the state’s National Guard so it will be “fully prepared to respond to any…civil unrest” before or after the election.

“The Department of Justice today announced it would monitor the polls in 86 jurisdictions in 27 states to make sure they comply with federal voting rights laws. Although the federal government has monitored certain polls since 1965, officials in the states of Florida, Missouri, and Texas promptly announced they would not permit Department of Justice officials inside polling stations."”

Dem4life1970

(583 posts)
12. Plus he has been whining and lying....
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 04:47 PM
Nov 1

...about a rigged election and election theft ever since (Soon to be Ex-) Senator Ted Cruz whooped his a$$ in Iowa in the 2016 GQP primary.

vanlassie

(5,901 posts)
13. Today I got a request for money that I didn't ignore.
Fri Nov 1, 2024, 04:51 PM
Nov 1

It was from Marc Elias. I sent $50. If he asked for $500 I would have considered it.
For anyone else, I’m tapped out.

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(1,049 posts)
17. Anyone who doesn't realize it takes longer than 9pm or 11pm on Election Night to determine who the ACTUAL
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:45 AM
Nov 2

winner is needs to go back to school or watch more news because it’s frankly idiotic to think all those mail in ballots could possibly be opened, verified, and scanned prior to the next or longer day.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
19. He learned all this from Roy Cohn. According to the movie "The Apprentice"
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:33 AM
Nov 2

which he tried to block, presumably because it was too truthful, he gleaned the following from Roy Cohn:

1.) Never say you are sorry. That's admitting defeat. You are weak if you do that.

2.) Always declare victory. Even if you lose. Make them PROVE you lost.

3.) Flood the courts with lawsuit after lawsuit. Make the government have to act on each one. Even if you "lose", you still "win" because you made the government spend its precious time and money on it.

4.) Why pay when you can get "shit" for free?

Sound familiar?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Cohn

BTW, according to the movie, Roy Cohn was a closeted self-hating Jewish Homosexual. His biggest claim to fame was putting away and helping to execute the Rosenbergs as a husband-wife spy couple and working for Senator Joe McCarthy. He also was very anti-gay during the 1970s with his views and positions. Even when the AIDs crisis (or GRiD as it was called back then) hit full force in the 1980s, both Cohn and Dumpy refused to call it that. Instead they referred to it as "gay cancer".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_and_Ethel_Rosenberg




ThoughtCriminal

(14,355 posts)
25. Same guy who claimed he won the debate 90-10
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 01:21 PM
Nov 2

If it was a football game he would steal the coin and claim he won the toss but that means he won the game.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,053 posts)
27. This ought to be happening now, preemptively,
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 02:38 PM
Nov 2

before Rs get themselves & others all worked up & control the narrative.

Dems need to manage expectations, reminding/explaining the simple, and obvious logistics of counting millions of votes: It takes time to count each one. The more votes cast, the more time it takes to count them all.

And no one loses their right to have their vote counted just because a lot of other people's votes were counted first.

I mean, duh. But so many people just dont think logically. Trump Cult members can't be made to, but most Americans can understand such a simple idea if they hear it before they start believing the RW BS.

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