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BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 03:52 PM Nov 2

My Sister Had An older Guy

actually come and look over her shoulder at her ballot which he's not supposed to do. He then had the nerve to say to her, you know I just canceled out your vote with mine. She replied, "well it's a good thing I voted today then because it means I canceled yours too." Magats aren't very logical. My sister isn't afraid like me to give it right back.

The guy harrumped and went to stand in line to put his ballot in the machine. A poll worker came over and asked my sister if he had looked at her ballot and my sister said yes and told her what the guy said. She also told the lady not to confront him on it, because she said she didn't want to make the poll workers time more stressful and then told her what she had said back, and the lady laughed.

Hey my sister actually would talk back to the nuns if she felt she was getting treated unfairly. She wasn't letting him get the last laugh!

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My Sister Had An older Guy (Original Post) BlueKota Nov 2 OP
Your sister's response was good, but really. How the fuck dare the guy? Scrivener7 Nov 2 #1
I know. BlueKota Nov 2 #2
Trumpers think they should rule the world, that only they matter. nt SunSeeker Nov 3 #83
Really, what an obnoxious creep. appalachiablue Nov 2 #23
Trumpers think they're above everything. sakabatou Nov 2 #52
It is well passed time to put the old patriarchy to bed. pandr32 Nov 3 #80
Men are so yesteryear. The future is female. OMGWTF Nov 3 #81
I would have just said "GTF away." RandySF Nov 2 #3
I would have been tempted to do the same BlueKota Nov 2 #14
I'd have been tempted ... krkaufman Nov 3 #60
Some older guys have a mildly invasive sense of humor. John1956PA Nov 2 #4
I think I understand. BlueKota Nov 2 #16
It's pretty rude, especially when it's directed at younger women. meadowlander Nov 2 #28
And you know he doesn't do that to men. Creepy. Nt spooky3 Nov 2 #43
Wow, I have an eight foot rule at the ATM. LisaM Nov 2 #57
Same here. People deserve privacy and their personal space. Prof. Toru Tanaka Nov 2 #59
That is way beyond rudeness. It's intrusion where he had no business being. It's also illegal. Scrivener7 Nov 2 #44
THIS!!!! mysitcfairy Nov 3 #82
Far enough that it ought to have caught the attention of a Democratic poll watcher--- Jack Valentino Nov 3 #61
I was doing a crossword in a train in Germany about thirty years ago DFW Nov 3 #64
Yeah, I'm afraid my logic circuits would've burned out and my loud-voiced Get The Fuck Away From Me Asshole circuits NBachers Nov 2 #5
Yeah they claim to be patriots BlueKota Nov 2 #18
I have no doubt what I would have done. get the fuck out of my face now. Evolve Dammit Nov 2 #40
I would have screamed and embarrassed the MAGAt mightily. Sneederbunk Nov 2 #6
ME TOO!!! AZ8theist Nov 2 #9
"Don't touch me THERE!!" (in your outdoor voice) usually works..... n/t lastlib Nov 2 #17
🤣 BlueKota Nov 2 #24
That would have been good. BlueKota Nov 2 #20
I hope I would also have caused quite a scene. TNNurse Nov 3 #65
The nerve of that guy! HeartsCanHope Nov 2 #7
I think my response would have been Captain Zero Nov 2 #8
Perfect! ShazzieB Nov 2 #10
Sorry, that's just too mild a response for that prick..... AZ8theist Nov 2 #11
They really think rules don't apply to them. BlueKota Nov 2 #25
apparently the rules didn't apply in that case Skittles Nov 2 #55
That, and my elbow would have added a very pointed expression of displeasure at being crowded by a stranger. Attilatheblond Nov 2 #51
I will! She has always been good at comebacks. BlueKota Nov 2 #22
We live in a red area that went for Trump the last two times 70-30. As we have open primaries, surfered Nov 2 #12
The district I live in is a very red part of New York State. BlueKota Nov 2 #27
Good for her LiberalFighter Nov 2 #13
She must've spent as much time kneeling on marble flors as I did Warpy Nov 2 #15
I agree that she should have let the poll worker BlueKota Nov 2 #30
I would be tempted to step on both his feet milestogo Nov 2 #19
I would have been tempted to say BlueKota Nov 2 #31
i would have had a more salty exchange at the top of my voice . i am glad i vote by mail. AllaN01Bear Nov 2 #21
They think they're special. BlueKota Nov 2 #32
he would never do that to a man ZonkerHarris Nov 2 #26
You're right! BlueKota Nov 2 #33
You are correct. No nuts dickwads are too scared to do that. JanMichael Nov 2 #38
That's downright illegal isn"t it? whathehell Nov 2 #29
I think it is illegal. BlueKota Nov 2 #34
Yes, the secrecy of the ballot box -- Very important whathehell Nov 2 #42
I've had MAGAs say their vote will cancel out mine but I also donate and volunteered... so maybe my efforts BlueWaveNeverEnd Nov 2 #35
I don't think they realize our vote cancels out their's BlueKota Nov 2 #48
She should have contacted a poll worker immediately. Hope22 Nov 2 #36
The poll worker did come over BlueKota Nov 2 #50
Speaking as a poll worker. Hope22 Nov 2 #58
That is exactly why she didn't want the poll worker to confront him. SunSeeker Nov 3 #84
I'm sorry she had this experience. I really am. Hope22 Nov 3 #88
He should have not been allowed to vote then. JanMichael Nov 2 #37
Definitely a dipshit BlueKota Nov 2 #49
BlueKota........ Upthevibe Nov 2 #39
New York BlueKota Nov 2 #45
Hindsight is 20/20 but it would have been nice if she Ferrets are Cool Nov 2 #41
😂 BlueKota Nov 2 #46
This shouldn't be POSSIBLE. It's like American public restrooms with the gaps. notroot Nov 2 #47
Me too BlueKota Nov 3 #74
I just finished Election Commissioner training mysitcfairy Nov 2 #53
This really bothered me. mysitcfairy Nov 3 #73
Would have been fun to tell him today's vote cancels his, and her Tuesday vote will put her one up megapuzzler Nov 2 #54
If he had tried that on my Ex . . . SarcasticSatyr Nov 2 #56
COOL! Your sister handled it Well... I would Cha Nov 3 #62
I would have made a scene and fucked that guy's... 2naSalit Nov 3 #63
When I read your thread title... PCIntern Nov 3 #66
Yeah SocialDemocrat61 Nov 3 #68
Talking back to the nuns. I am in love with your sister. My soulmate. twodogsbarking Nov 3 #67
I wish I had her courage back then. BlueKota Nov 3 #75
They can't get us any more. Have a great day. twodogsbarking Nov 3 #76
Good point. You too! BlueKota Nov 3 #78
Being illogical isn't the issue here. Illegally reading someone's ballot and harassing a voter are the issues. Martin68 Nov 3 #69
Yes! Isn't voter intimidation/harassment a crime? nt SunSeeker Nov 3 #85
If I were Columbo... Hugin Nov 3 #70
Good to keep an eye on things. twodogsbarking Nov 3 #71
My Republican aunt used to say I was "wasting my vote". louis-t Nov 3 #72
I have a cousin who won't vote at all because he BlueKota Nov 3 #77
so maybe he didn't have a wife to boss around 4catsmom Nov 3 #79
Magats are shameless. iemanja Nov 3 #86
Excellent sky1 Nov 3 #87

pandr32

(12,302 posts)
80. It is well passed time to put the old patriarchy to bed.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:30 AM
Nov 3

All the misogyny that goes with it can sputter out.

krkaufman

(13,760 posts)
60. I'd have been tempted ...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:53 AM
Nov 3

… to clarify that, yes, we cancelled-out each other’s votes, as that’s how vote tabulation works, but only one of us voted for a rapist.

John1956PA

(3,448 posts)
4. Some older guys have a mildly invasive sense of humor.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 04:17 PM
Nov 2

I am an old guy who keeps to himself when in public. There was a minister, older that I, who visited the same restaurants as I did. He might see me working a crossword puzzle at a table and come up from behind me and say, jokingly in his soft voice, "I can finish any answers which you can't get."

That older minister never irritated me. About six years ago, I heard him gently talking to a fellow he was having lunch with. The minister said that he recognized that Trump had personal failings, but he approved of Trump's court appointments.

Yes, the stranger coming up from behind the woman and offering a comment was inappropriate, in the 1940s and even more so in the 2020s. His spying on her ballot and mentioning his opposing vote border on voter intimidation. My only point is that I do not know how far along the spectrum of rudeness that fellow falls.

BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
16. I think I understand.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 05:49 PM
Nov 2

It's isn't right, but he might have thought he was being funny, and was rude, but not as downright nasty as some can be.

meadowlander

(4,767 posts)
28. It's pretty rude, especially when it's directed at younger women.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:13 PM
Nov 2

I was at an ATM one time and a guy in his 50s basically leaned over my shoulder and commented on how much money I was withdrawing. There was nobody else around and I hadn't heard him creeping up on me so I startled pretty badly and pushed him away.

He got pissed saying it was just a joke and not be so sensitive and then stalked off but come the fuck on? How hard is it to understand that women deal with constant harassment and the threat of violence and it's not acceptable for any reason to creep up into their personal space and impose on their time and attention no matter how clever and funny you think you're being. That's doubly true when they're doing something where they would have an expectation of privacy like withdrawing cash, voting or coming out of a public toilet.

Just no, my dudes. Apply common sense and courtesy.

LisaM

(28,783 posts)
57. Wow, I have an eight foot rule at the ATM.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:09 PM
Nov 2

Not that I am threatening looking, but it's just common courtesy to let someone bank in privacy.

Scrivener7

(53,300 posts)
44. That is way beyond rudeness. It's intrusion where he had no business being. It's also illegal.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:09 PM
Nov 2

mysitcfairy

(35 posts)
82. THIS!!!!
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:12 PM
Nov 3

He should have been reported, had his ballot invalidated, then been removed from the polling area. A full report should have been submitted by the poll worker to the registrar of voters. This was clearly a polling violation and all details documented. Please have your sister contact the Harris campaign immediately! Maybe he was a plant to influence voting or just disrupt the polls! Maybe a first time voter heard this and never votes again. Thus didn’t happen in a vacuum.

Jack Valentino

(1,514 posts)
61. Far enough that it ought to have caught the attention of a Democratic poll watcher---
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:29 AM
Nov 3

but likely their attention was directed elsewhere, if there was one

DFW

(56,909 posts)
64. I was doing a crossword in a train in Germany about thirty years ago
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 06:23 AM
Nov 3

I was nearing the end, so only the hardest clues were left. And elderly woman seated across from me had been following my progress from across the aisle. I noticed it, but she wasn’t being intrusive, so I let her watch.

When I appeared to be stumped, though, she couldn’t hold back any longer, and said she was good with crossword puzzles, and I should let her help me out. This was all in German, and she was German, a local from her accent. My crossword was from the New York Times, so I doubted she would understand anything, but instead of saying so, I said, in German, sure, see if you can make some progress, and handed her the paper. She started to study it, quickly realizing that she didn’t understand anything.

“But this isn’t German!” she protested. I said, “of course it’s not German. I never said it was in German. It’s from America, so it’s in English. You said you could help me out. Can you or can’t you?” She handed the paper back to me, mumbling something about not knowing enough English. Maybe she asked a few more questions before offering to finish the next stranger’s crossword puzzle.

NBachers

(18,206 posts)
5. Yeah, I'm afraid my logic circuits would've burned out and my loud-voiced Get The Fuck Away From Me Asshole circuits
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 04:18 PM
Nov 2

would've carried the load.

TNNurse

(7,170 posts)
65. I hope I would also have caused quite a scene.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:22 AM
Nov 3

Sometimes I can think of the right thing to say in the moment.

Many years ago as a new nurse I had a doctor put his hand on my knee under the desk while we were charting. There were others present. I calmly said "Take your hand off my knee or your wife and everyone in this building will hear about it". He never touched me again.

HeartsCanHope

(759 posts)
7. The nerve of that guy!
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 05:07 PM
Nov 2

Please give your sister a hug from me and tell her, "thank you!" I just love a sassy comeback to stupidity!

ShazzieB

(18,968 posts)
10. Perfect!
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 05:29 PM
Nov 2

Considering how angry it has made me just to read about that guy, I can't even imagine how angry I would been if he pulled that on me. The word "incandescent" comes to mind! 🔥 🔥

AZ8theist

(6,578 posts)
11. Sorry, that's just too mild a response for that prick.....
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 05:31 PM
Nov 2

Who the fuck does he think he is??????????

I would have MADE A SCENE in order to embarass the shit out of that pervert. SCREAM LOUDLY like an assault took place!!!

This is my country just as much as anyones and he has NO RIGHT to interfere with my right to vote. PERIOD.

Skittles

(160,432 posts)
55. apparently the rules didn't apply in that case
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:15 PM
Nov 2

where I live the cops would be called in a heartbeat if someone is wandering around looking over shoulders and commenting, WTF

Attilatheblond

(4,640 posts)
51. That, and my elbow would have added a very pointed expression of displeasure at being crowded by a stranger.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:45 PM
Nov 2

surfered

(3,859 posts)
12. We live in a red area that went for Trump the last two times 70-30. As we have open primaries,
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 05:36 PM
Nov 2

…we have been voting in the Republican primary as the winner of the primary is the one eventually elected. Our hope is to vote for the most sane candidate, they never win.

Due to my letters to the editor supporting progressive causes, I was well enough known that an Election Judge approached me at a recent election and asked me if I was voting in the correct place.

I assured him I was voting where I wanted .

BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
27. The district I live in is a very red part of New York State.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:09 PM
Nov 2

We don't have open primaries, and in the specific town I live in it's generally only 1
candidate who usually runs unopposed, and often there isn't even a primary.

That's good your primaries are open and you can at least try to help get a semi rational candidate elected. I don't even bother to vote in local elections anymore. Just state and national ones.

Warpy

(113,131 posts)
15. She must've spent as much time kneeling on marble flors as I did
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 05:45 PM
Nov 2

We rebels have scars, yes we do.

I would have let the legal chips fall where they may, poll workers being very good at lecturing men on proper conduct around other people who are voting.

BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
30. I agree that she should have let the poll worker
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:18 PM
Nov 2

go after him.

She and I were a lot different in how we handled parochial school I cowered from a number of my teachers, and tried to dissappear inside my own head. She stood her ground. Oddly enough they went after me, more than they did her. I guess it was because they knew I was more vulnerable and an easier target.

BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
31. I would have been tempted to say
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:23 PM
Nov 2

Wow I am shocked! Someone from your side actually knows how to read!

AllaN01Bear

(23,431 posts)
21. i would have had a more salty exchange at the top of my voice . i am glad i vote by mail.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 05:56 PM
Nov 2

yeah. who the heck are you!?!?!

JanMichael

(25,339 posts)
38. You are correct. No nuts dickwads are too scared to do that.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:37 PM
Nov 2

Even a bigger one would probably shy away from a random fight with a guy he has no idea about.

BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
34. I think it is illegal.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:29 PM
Nov 2

I miss the old voting both. The cardboard "screens" they use now block others view from the front and sides but if someone walks behind you they can read over your shoulder.

whathehell

(29,881 posts)
42. Yes, the secrecy of the ballot box -- Very important
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 07:49 PM
Nov 2

and I totally agree about the old voting booths..That old guy couldn't have done what he did -- at least so inconspicuously -- in a voting booth

BlueWaveNeverEnd

(10,559 posts)
35. I've had MAGAs say their vote will cancel out mine but I also donate and volunteered... so maybe my efforts
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:32 PM
Nov 2

encouraged a few more Harris votes.

BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
48. I don't think they realize our vote cancels out their's
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:27 PM
Nov 2

either. It's great you donated and volunteered. I made a few donations and also became a member of Democracy Docket to support Marc Elias' efforts against Republican voting lawsuits.

Hope22

(3,137 posts)
36. She should have contacted a poll worker immediately.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:33 PM
Nov 2

‘I need help over here!’ A worker should have stepped in and taken his information. These emboldened men are dangerous

BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
50. The poll worker did come over
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:41 PM
Nov 2

and asked if everything was alright. The jerk ignored her question and went and got in line to process his ballot. My sister told her what happened but she didn't want to add any more stress to the poll workers day, so told her not to feel like she had to go after him on her account.

Hope22

(3,137 posts)
58. Speaking as a poll worker.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:18 PM
Nov 2

That is what we are there for. There are rules of behavior inside the polling station. Those rules are there to keep the process and everyone including the workers participating in it safe. In my opinion she should follow up with the BOE. The problem is that this man feels free to intimidate voters. Notice he chose a woman. He might not be quite as nice to the next one. It could be a worker that gets hurt. Just saying.

SunSeeker

(54,121 posts)
84. That is exactly why she didn't want the poll worker to confront him.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:21 PM
Nov 3

She told the poll worker that she already had to deal with a lot. She was afraid the poll worker would get hurt.

Hope22

(3,137 posts)
88. I'm sorry she had this experience. I really am.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:44 PM
Nov 3

My guess is with these emboldened men it makes women in this country more likely to have these experiences over and over again! I hope she decides to call the County Board Of Election Office and talk with someone. At a minimum they can improve worker training. The hope would be that they are tracking these threats to the voting process and participants. I know that my local Board is. She deserves better!

Ferrets are Cool

(22,010 posts)
41. Hindsight is 20/20 but it would have been nice if she
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 07:12 PM
Nov 2

Had screamed, "GET AWAY FROM ME YOU PERVERT".

 

notroot

(267 posts)
47. This shouldn't be POSSIBLE. It's like American public restrooms with the gaps.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:24 PM
Nov 2

No privacy.

I like privacy.

mysitcfairy

(35 posts)
53. I just finished Election Commissioner training
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:03 PM
Nov 2

And there is NO WAY this should have happened. This makes me wonder what other irregularities are happening. Your sister should bring this to the attention of the Harris-Walz campaign and the media!!!!

mysitcfairy

(35 posts)
73. This really bothered me.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:16 AM
Nov 3

I reached out to my CIC with 30 years experience. She said to contact law enforcement because a crime was committed. Also the Election Commissioner clearly violated ethics laws. Contact both campaigns and the press. What the guy did was horrendous but the election worker allowing this made it a federal crime.

megapuzzler

(566 posts)
54. Would have been fun to tell him today's vote cancels his, and her Tuesday vote will put her one up
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:14 PM
Nov 2

that would have gotten his tiny little heart palpitating

SarcasticSatyr

(1,296 posts)
56. If he had tried that on my Ex . . .
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:38 PM
Nov 2

she would have applied an elbow to his ribcage, with a loud "stop trying to molest me you creep"

Cha

(305,880 posts)
62. COOL! Your sister handled it Well... I would
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 03:37 AM
Nov 3

have been so Pissed after all I read on DU. I don't hold back anymore like I used to.

Thank Her, Please

2naSalit

(93,725 posts)
63. I would have made a scene and fucked that guy's...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 05:47 AM
Nov 3

Day over royally.

My response would have been similar to what I used to tell assholes who wanted to "help" me back my trailer into a spot but actually intending to get me into a nightmare so they could chuckle while they watched me waste time getting out of it...

Whenever offered by such a person I would say, "Get away from my vehicle before I'll run you over!"

Asshole at polling place would have heard a loud, "Don;t touch me, asshole!" and had his ass escorted out.

Martin68

(24,773 posts)
69. Being illogical isn't the issue here. Illegally reading someone's ballot and harassing a voter are the issues.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:31 AM
Nov 3

I understand the desire to avoid a confrontation, but these people would not be allowed to get away with what amounts to voter intimidation and invasion of privacy.

Hugin

(34,800 posts)
70. If I were Columbo...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 09:33 AM
Nov 3

I’d be checking that dude’s crawl space.

On the bright side, counting all of the votes I am certain of, Harris/Walz is +2 in the black.

louis-t

(23,784 posts)
72. My Republican aunt used to say I was "wasting my vote".
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 10:01 AM
Nov 3

I told her the only way you waste your vote is by not voting.

BlueKota

(3,765 posts)
77. I have a cousin who won't vote at all because he
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:26 AM
Nov 3

thinks all politicians are crooks and liars no matter their party. I told him don't complain then if someone really horrendous gets elected because at least you still could have picked someone who may have been better.

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