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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy Sister Had An older Guy
actually come and look over her shoulder at her ballot which he's not supposed to do. He then had the nerve to say to her, you know I just canceled out your vote with mine. She replied, "well it's a good thing I voted today then because it means I canceled yours too." Magats aren't very logical. My sister isn't afraid like me to give it right back.
The guy harrumped and went to stand in line to put his ballot in the machine. A poll worker came over and asked my sister if he had looked at her ballot and my sister said yes and told her what the guy said. She also told the lady not to confront him on it, because she said she didn't want to make the poll workers time more stressful and then told her what she had said back, and the lady laughed.
Hey my sister actually would talk back to the nuns if she felt she was getting treated unfairly. She wasn't letting him get the last laugh!
Scrivener7
(53,300 posts)The cult members are just jerks.
SunSeeker
(54,121 posts)appalachiablue
(43,143 posts)sakabatou
(43,307 posts)pandr32
(12,302 posts)All the misogyny that goes with it can sputter out.
OMGWTF
(4,487 posts)RandySF
(71,176 posts)I no longer have the patience to be witty anymore.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)krkaufman
(13,760 posts)to clarify that, yes, we cancelled-out each others votes, as thats how vote tabulation works, but only one of us voted for a rapist.
John1956PA
(3,448 posts)I am an old guy who keeps to himself when in public. There was a minister, older that I, who visited the same restaurants as I did. He might see me working a crossword puzzle at a table and come up from behind me and say, jokingly in his soft voice, "I can finish any answers which you can't get."
That older minister never irritated me. About six years ago, I heard him gently talking to a fellow he was having lunch with. The minister said that he recognized that Trump had personal failings, but he approved of Trump's court appointments.
Yes, the stranger coming up from behind the woman and offering a comment was inappropriate, in the 1940s and even more so in the 2020s. His spying on her ballot and mentioning his opposing vote border on voter intimidation. My only point is that I do not know how far along the spectrum of rudeness that fellow falls.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)It's isn't right, but he might have thought he was being funny, and was rude, but not as downright nasty as some can be.
meadowlander
(4,767 posts)I was at an ATM one time and a guy in his 50s basically leaned over my shoulder and commented on how much money I was withdrawing. There was nobody else around and I hadn't heard him creeping up on me so I startled pretty badly and pushed him away.
He got pissed saying it was just a joke and not be so sensitive and then stalked off but come the fuck on? How hard is it to understand that women deal with constant harassment and the threat of violence and it's not acceptable for any reason to creep up into their personal space and impose on their time and attention no matter how clever and funny you think you're being. That's doubly true when they're doing something where they would have an expectation of privacy like withdrawing cash, voting or coming out of a public toilet.
Just no, my dudes. Apply common sense and courtesy.
spooky3
(36,467 posts)LisaM
(28,783 posts)Not that I am threatening looking, but it's just common courtesy to let someone bank in privacy.
Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,374 posts)Scrivener7
(53,300 posts)He should have been reported, had his ballot invalidated, then been removed from the polling area. A full report should have been submitted by the poll worker to the registrar of voters. This was clearly a polling violation and all details documented. Please have your sister contact the Harris campaign immediately! Maybe he was a plant to influence voting or just disrupt the polls! Maybe a first time voter heard this and never votes again. Thus didnt happen in a vacuum.
Jack Valentino
(1,514 posts)but likely their attention was directed elsewhere, if there was one
DFW
(56,909 posts)I was nearing the end, so only the hardest clues were left. And elderly woman seated across from me had been following my progress from across the aisle. I noticed it, but she wasnt being intrusive, so I let her watch.
When I appeared to be stumped, though, she couldnt hold back any longer, and said she was good with crossword puzzles, and I should let her help me out. This was all in German, and she was German, a local from her accent. My crossword was from the New York Times, so I doubted she would understand anything, but instead of saying so, I said, in German, sure, see if you can make some progress, and handed her the paper. She started to study it, quickly realizing that she didnt understand anything.
But this isnt German! she protested. I said, of course its not German. I never said it was in German. Its from America, so its in English. You said you could help me out. Can you or cant you? She handed the paper back to me, mumbling something about not knowing enough English. Maybe she asked a few more questions before offering to finish the next strangers crossword puzzle.
NBachers
(18,206 posts)would've carried the load.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)but don't even respect other's voting rights.
Evolve Dammit
(19,165 posts)Sneederbunk
(15,410 posts)AZ8theist
(6,578 posts)MIND YOUR OWN FUCKING BUSINESS!!!!!
And then I would have kicked him in the balls.
lastlib
(24,993 posts)BlueKota
(3,765 posts)I was lucky. No one bothered anyone else at my polling place.
TNNurse
(7,170 posts)Sometimes I can think of the right thing to say in the moment.
Many years ago as a new nurse I had a doctor put his hand on my knee under the desk while we were charting. There were others present. I calmly said "Take your hand off my knee or your wife and everyone in this building will hear about it". He never touched me again.
HeartsCanHope
(759 posts)Please give your sister a hug from me and tell her, "thank you!" I just love a sassy comeback to stupidity!
Captain Zero
(7,594 posts)ShazzieB
(18,968 posts)Considering how angry it has made me just to read about that guy, I can't even imagine how angry I would been if he pulled that on me. The word "incandescent" comes to mind! 🔥 🔥
AZ8theist
(6,578 posts)Who the fuck does he think he is??????????
I would have MADE A SCENE in order to embarass the shit out of that pervert. SCREAM LOUDLY like an assault took place!!!
This is my country just as much as anyones and he has NO RIGHT to interfere with my right to vote. PERIOD.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)Skittles
(160,432 posts)where I live the cops would be called in a heartbeat if someone is wandering around looking over shoulders and commenting, WTF
Attilatheblond
(4,640 posts)BlueKota
(3,765 posts)surfered
(3,859 posts)
we have been voting in the Republican primary as the winner of the primary is the one eventually elected. Our hope is to vote for the most sane candidate, they never win.
Due to my letters to the editor supporting progressive causes, I was well enough known that an Election Judge approached me at a recent election and asked me if I was voting in the correct place.
I assured him I was voting where I wanted .
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)We don't have open primaries, and in the specific town I live in it's generally only 1
candidate who usually runs unopposed, and often there isn't even a primary.
That's good your primaries are open and you can at least try to help get a semi rational candidate elected. I don't even bother to vote in local elections anymore. Just state and national ones.
LiberalFighter
(53,523 posts)Warpy
(113,131 posts)We rebels have scars, yes we do.
I would have let the legal chips fall where they may, poll workers being very good at lecturing men on proper conduct around other people who are voting.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)go after him.
She and I were a lot different in how we handled parochial school I cowered from a number of my teachers, and tried to dissappear inside my own head. She stood her ground. Oddly enough they went after me, more than they did her. I guess it was because they knew I was more vulnerable and an easier target.
milestogo
(18,349 posts)since he's standing so close.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)Wow I am shocked! Someone from your side actually knows how to read!
AllaN01Bear
(23,431 posts)yeah. who the heck are you!?!?!
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)ZonkerHarris
(25,456 posts)BlueKota
(3,765 posts)JanMichael
(25,339 posts)Even a bigger one would probably shy away from a random fight with a guy he has no idea about.
whathehell
(29,881 posts)I think I would have yelled for some help.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)I miss the old voting both. The cardboard "screens" they use now block others view from the front and sides but if someone walks behind you they can read over your shoulder.
whathehell
(29,881 posts)and I totally agree about the old voting booths..That old guy couldn't have done what he did -- at least so inconspicuously -- in a voting booth
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(10,559 posts)encouraged a few more Harris votes.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)either. It's great you donated and volunteered. I made a few donations and also became a member of Democracy Docket to support Marc Elias' efforts against Republican voting lawsuits.
Hope22
(3,137 posts)I need help over here! A worker should have stepped in and taken his information. These emboldened men are dangerous
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)and asked if everything was alright. The jerk ignored her question and went and got in line to process his ballot. My sister told her what happened but she didn't want to add any more stress to the poll workers day, so told her not to feel like she had to go after him on her account.
Hope22
(3,137 posts)That is what we are there for. There are rules of behavior inside the polling station. Those rules are there to keep the process and everyone including the workers participating in it safe. In my opinion she should follow up with the BOE. The problem is that this man feels free to intimidate voters. Notice he chose a woman. He might not be quite as nice to the next one. It could be a worker that gets hurt. Just saying.
SunSeeker
(54,121 posts)She told the poll worker that she already had to deal with a lot. She was afraid the poll worker would get hurt.
Hope22
(3,137 posts)My guess is with these emboldened men it makes women in this country more likely to have these experiences over and over again! I hope she decides to call the County Board Of Election Office and talk with someone. At a minimum they can improve worker training. The hope would be that they are tracking these threats to the voting process and participants. I know that my local Board is. She deserves better!
JanMichael
(25,339 posts)Dipshit.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)Upthevibe
(9,276 posts)What state?
Ferrets are Cool
(22,010 posts)Had screamed, "GET AWAY FROM ME YOU PERVERT".
notroot
(267 posts)No privacy.
I like privacy.
mysitcfairy
(35 posts)And there is NO WAY this should have happened. This makes me wonder what other irregularities are happening. Your sister should bring this to the attention of the Harris-Walz campaign and the media!!!!
mysitcfairy
(35 posts)I reached out to my CIC with 30 years experience. She said to contact law enforcement because a crime was committed. Also the Election Commissioner clearly violated ethics laws. Contact both campaigns and the press. What the guy did was horrendous but the election worker allowing this made it a federal crime.
megapuzzler
(566 posts)that would have gotten his tiny little heart palpitating
SarcasticSatyr
(1,296 posts)she would have applied an elbow to his ribcage, with a loud "stop trying to molest me you creep"
Cha
(305,880 posts)have been so Pissed after all I read on DU. I don't hold back anymore like I used to.
Thank Her, Please
2naSalit
(93,725 posts)Day over royally.
My response would have been similar to what I used to tell assholes who wanted to "help" me back my trailer into a spot but actually intending to get me into a nightmare so they could chuckle while they watched me waste time getting out of it...
Whenever offered by such a person I would say, "Get away from my vehicle before I'll run you over!"
Asshole at polling place would have heard a loud, "Don;t touch me, asshole!" and had his ass escorted out.
PCIntern
(27,040 posts)I thought it might be a letter to Penthouse.
SocialDemocrat61
(3,083 posts)Thought it was going to be about a sugar daddy 😉
twodogsbarking
(12,271 posts)BlueKota
(3,765 posts)I was terrified of them.
twodogsbarking
(12,271 posts)BlueKota
(3,765 posts)Martin68
(24,773 posts)I understand the desire to avoid a confrontation, but these people would not be allowed to get away with what amounts to voter intimidation and invasion of privacy.
SunSeeker
(54,121 posts)Hugin
(34,800 posts)Id be checking that dudes crawl space.
On the bright side, counting all of the votes I am certain of, Harris/Walz is +2 in the black.
twodogsbarking
(12,271 posts)louis-t
(23,784 posts)I told her the only way you waste your vote is by not voting.
BlueKota
(3,765 posts)thinks all politicians are crooks and liars no matter their party. I told him don't complain then if someone really horrendous gets elected because at least you still could have picked someone who may have been better.
4catsmom
(317 posts)and if so, I would not be surprised
iemanja
(54,966 posts)High praise for your sister. Not sure if would have thought of it so quickly.