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askyagerz

(901 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:54 PM Nov 2

Nick Fuentes just realized MAGA is a cult...

“At the Trump rallies, they’re yelling trash for Trump, trash for Trump. And I saw other people. I saw white guys. I saw Hispanic guys, Hispanic guys inside trash cans jumping out of them with Trump signs, white guys with garbage bags that say trash for Trump,” said Fuentes.

“That was the moment when I realized Trumpism was a cult. That was the moment when I realized liberals are right. That was the moment when I realized it had gone too far. It is Frankenstein’s monster. We have created a golem. It is a problem.”

“You know, for years, liberals said it’s a cult. You’re in a cult. And I said, well you’re going to jail. It is a cult, and we’re in it, and you are going to jail: that’s how I felt about it for the past eight years.”

“But then I saw them dressing up as trash, like uncritically, just dressing up as garbage, and saying, ‘We’re garbage. Yeah, we’re garbage.’ And I said, ‘Yeah, I think we have a problem.’”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/neo-nazi-commentator-nick-fuentes-accepts-liberals-are-right/

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Nick Fuentes just realized MAGA is a cult... (Original Post) askyagerz Nov 2 OP
He is young. He is playing the long game. Don't go down with the ship this early. RockRaven Nov 2 #1
Lol yeah askyagerz Nov 2 #3
I think that's spot-on. TwilightZone Nov 2 #4
When you've lost Nick Fuentes... Ocelot II Nov 2 #2
I don't know..why am I finding this hard to believe? Deuxcents Nov 2 #9
It may be just that he's *embarrassed* by Trump supporters wearing garbage bags Ocelot II Nov 2 #11
Nick, if you're serious about what you said, prove it. ENDORSE KAMALA! Enter stage left Nov 2 #5
He just said Maga was a cult askyagerz Nov 2 #10
Neo-nazi pretends to be a centrist struggle4progress Nov 2 #6
This part tho Coexist Nov 2 #7
He has his own loathsome agenda; TCF was useful and convenient but Fuentes RockRaven Nov 2 #14
Errrr, when woman wore t-shirts Claustrum Nov 2 #8
He utters one truth. Boomerproud Nov 2 #12
Everybody has their exit point Nasruddin Nov 3 #30
Well would you look at that! Heck Cha Nov 2 #13
I know Fuentes from his HS days. Always was an opportunist. Freethinker65 Nov 2 #15
A smart opportunist knows when its time to split askyagerz Nov 2 #17
I think they're hedging that they're fixing to lose oldmanlynn Nov 2 #16
More importantly I think they will start seeing askyagerz Nov 2 #20
Perhaps he just doesn't like the cult-ish optics parts, while still really liking the racist policy parts. Beartracks Nov 2 #18
Not only seen as cringe but extreme askyagerz Nov 2 #23
That concert sounds like it was a lot of fun! Beartracks Nov 2 #26
We were hicks from the illinois cornfields askyagerz Nov 3 #27
For him, that would seem to be a plus. UTUSN Nov 2 #19
Isn't that the second white supremacist to say that today? Renew Deal Nov 2 #21
Not sure? Did he lose 2 white supremacists... askyagerz Nov 2 #24
Yes Renew Deal Nov 2 #25
Nice, the neo nazis got together askyagerz Nov 3 #28
That guy is embarrassed by those guys acting like Klarkashton Nov 2 #22
GFY Nicky FrankBooth Nov 3 #29

Ocelot II

(121,648 posts)
11. It may be just that he's *embarrassed* by Trump supporters wearing garbage bags
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:05 PM
Nov 2

and he's concluded it's all so stupid that they must be in a cult. I doubt his political ideology has changed a bit.

Enter stage left

(3,860 posts)
5. Nick, if you're serious about what you said, prove it. ENDORSE KAMALA!
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:00 PM
Nov 2

Otherwise, crawl back under your rock.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
7. This part tho
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:01 PM
Nov 2

Fuentes, however, has not abandoned his outright racist and deeply antisemitic views.

His latest posts on X include bigoted remarks against the United Kingdom’s Conservative Party’s decision to elect a Black woman as its leader and claims that women “should not have the right to vote.”

RockRaven

(16,577 posts)
14. He has his own loathsome agenda; TCF was useful and convenient but Fuentes
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:12 PM
Nov 2

is committed to his own cause(s) regardless of TCF.

Sounds like Fuentes has decided TCF is a loser and wants to open up a distinction between his people and MAGAts so that when TCF loses (again) his followers can say to themselves "I'm a Groyper, not a MAGAt" IOW "I'm not a loser" as a balm to their butthurt.

Claustrum

(5,052 posts)
8. Errrr, when woman wore t-shirts
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:01 PM
Nov 2

That said “he can grab my p****”, when they all wore that ear patch, when they wore shirts that said they rather be Russian, it’s really no different than this.

The only difference is this time it is directed at him and his people. Their actions are clearly a cult. I don’t say that lightly.

I guess it’s better late than never.

Nasruddin

(876 posts)
30. Everybody has their exit point
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:48 AM
Nov 3

One hopes it's before someone with a gun shows up with the Flavor Aid

Cha

(305,910 posts)
13. Well would you look at that! Heck
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:10 PM
Nov 2

Yeah I’ll Rec it.

Lol Liberals are Right.. TSF is a Cult ☠️💀

Freethinker65

(11,165 posts)
15. I know Fuentes from his HS days. Always was an opportunist.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:16 PM
Nov 2

Being a leader of a cult was appealing to Fuentes. Easy money.

The money (and attention) is drying up. Time for something different.

oldmanlynn

(521 posts)
16. I think they're hedging that they're fixing to lose
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:21 PM
Nov 2

Hes trying to act like they’re on the opposite side of MAGA as it looks like they’re fixing to lose. Lessen any political fallout from being pro maga

askyagerz

(901 posts)
20. More importantly I think they will start seeing
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:29 PM
Nov 2

That Trump's power of retribution has just went up in smoke. It's OK for the rats to abandon ship now because they are within swimming distance of land

Beartracks

(13,620 posts)
18. Perhaps he just doesn't like the cult-ish optics parts, while still really liking the racist policy parts.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:25 PM
Nov 2

Maybe he's thinking that the dumb gradeschool cosplay stuff makes it harder to take the GOP seriously, and then we all can't realize how amazingly legitimate and well-justified the party's racist underpinnings are. Of course, you can't really separate the two: both the stupid antics and the racist worldview require the same level of pre-teen rationalizing.

But anyway... gleefully "taking back" the word "garbage" or wearing tampons on their shirts, or even the stupid nicknames, these are not at all the flexes that Republicans so desperately think they are. It's just so cringe

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askyagerz

(901 posts)
23. Not only seen as cringe but extreme
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:46 PM
Nov 2

I went to a Marilyn manson concert in the late 90s. It was in downtown Indy so several hotels got taken over and all the normal people were horrified with all these goth kids walking around.

That's what these people do when try to own the libs. They live in an echo chamber and think they are the majority. Then like eager teens they take it to circus levels which just makes everyday citizens step back and walk around

P.s. when we walked outside after the concert the churches had all gathered and formed a prayer circle around the arena. They had to bring in the riot cops to let us out. Good times!

Beartracks

(13,620 posts)
26. That concert sounds like it was a lot of fun!
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:58 PM
Nov 2

I think I've only had to walk through (well, past) protestors once, to get into a theater to see The Last Temptation of Christ. Nothing dramatic, however, and no police presence that I recall.

But yeah, these days: circus. That's an apt description of the MAGA cult, both inside and outside their rallies. And the metaphor makes sense given that they have a ringmaster, too. He must get such a huge rush out of playing these little monkeys like a fiddle and seeing them flagellate and prostrate and make asses of themselves all in his name.

(No offense to actual monkeys intended. I was thinking of monkey see, monkey do, and it just sorta fit with the circus theme.)

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askyagerz

(901 posts)
27. We were hicks from the illinois cornfields
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:21 AM
Nov 3

So yeah it was pretty amazing.
That's what makes me pissed about Trump the most. He's not only using people I care about but I know he's getting off on it.

I think once his retribution power dries up we are going to start hearing some really damning audio/vidoes and it will free a lot of people currently in his web

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