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askyagerz

(901 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:54 PM Nov 2024

Nick Fuentes just realized MAGA is a cult...

“At the Trump rallies, they’re yelling trash for Trump, trash for Trump. And I saw other people. I saw white guys. I saw Hispanic guys, Hispanic guys inside trash cans jumping out of them with Trump signs, white guys with garbage bags that say trash for Trump,” said Fuentes.

“That was the moment when I realized Trumpism was a cult. That was the moment when I realized liberals are right. That was the moment when I realized it had gone too far. It is Frankenstein’s monster. We have created a golem. It is a problem.”

“You know, for years, liberals said it’s a cult. You’re in a cult. And I said, well you’re going to jail. It is a cult, and we’re in it, and you are going to jail: that’s how I felt about it for the past eight years.”

“But then I saw them dressing up as trash, like uncritically, just dressing up as garbage, and saying, ‘We’re garbage. Yeah, we’re garbage.’ And I said, ‘Yeah, I think we have a problem.’”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/neo-nazi-commentator-nick-fuentes-accepts-liberals-are-right/

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Nick Fuentes just realized MAGA is a cult... (Original Post) askyagerz Nov 2024 OP
He is young. He is playing the long game. Don't go down with the ship this early. RockRaven Nov 2024 #1
Lol yeah askyagerz Nov 2024 #3
I think that's spot-on. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #4
When you've lost Nick Fuentes... Ocelot II Nov 2024 #2
I don't know..why am I finding this hard to believe? Deuxcents Nov 2024 #9
It may be just that he's *embarrassed* by Trump supporters wearing garbage bags Ocelot II Nov 2024 #11
Nick, if you're serious about what you said, prove it. ENDORSE KAMALA! Enter stage left Nov 2024 #5
He just said Maga was a cult askyagerz Nov 2024 #10
Neo-nazi pretends to be a centrist struggle4progress Nov 2024 #6
This part tho Coexist Nov 2024 #7
He has his own loathsome agenda; TCF was useful and convenient but Fuentes RockRaven Nov 2024 #14
Errrr, when woman wore t-shirts Claustrum Nov 2024 #8
He utters one truth. Boomerproud Nov 2024 #12
Everybody has their exit point Nasruddin Nov 2024 #30
Well would you look at that! Heck Cha Nov 2024 #13
I know Fuentes from his HS days. Always was an opportunist. Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #15
A smart opportunist knows when its time to split askyagerz Nov 2024 #17
I think they're hedging that they're fixing to lose oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #16
More importantly I think they will start seeing askyagerz Nov 2024 #20
Perhaps he just doesn't like the cult-ish optics parts, while still really liking the racist policy parts. Beartracks Nov 2024 #18
Not only seen as cringe but extreme askyagerz Nov 2024 #23
That concert sounds like it was a lot of fun! Beartracks Nov 2024 #26
We were hicks from the illinois cornfields askyagerz Nov 2024 #27
For him, that would seem to be a plus. UTUSN Nov 2024 #19
Isn't that the second white supremacist to say that today? Renew Deal Nov 2024 #21
Not sure? Did he lose 2 white supremacists... askyagerz Nov 2024 #24
Yes Renew Deal Nov 2024 #25
Nice, the neo nazis got together askyagerz Nov 2024 #28
That guy is embarrassed by those guys acting like Klarkashton Nov 2024 #22
GFY Nicky FrankBooth Nov 2024 #29

Ocelot II

(123,950 posts)
11. It may be just that he's *embarrassed* by Trump supporters wearing garbage bags
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:05 AM
Nov 2024

and he's concluded it's all so stupid that they must be in a cult. I doubt his political ideology has changed a bit.

Enter stage left

(3,996 posts)
5. Nick, if you're serious about what you said, prove it. ENDORSE KAMALA!
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:00 AM
Nov 2024

Otherwise, crawl back under your rock.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
7. This part tho
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:01 AM
Nov 2024

Fuentes, however, has not abandoned his outright racist and deeply antisemitic views.

His latest posts on X include bigoted remarks against the United Kingdom’s Conservative Party’s decision to elect a Black woman as its leader and claims that women “should not have the right to vote.”

RockRaven

(17,109 posts)
14. He has his own loathsome agenda; TCF was useful and convenient but Fuentes
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:12 AM
Nov 2024

is committed to his own cause(s) regardless of TCF.

Sounds like Fuentes has decided TCF is a loser and wants to open up a distinction between his people and MAGAts so that when TCF loses (again) his followers can say to themselves "I'm a Groyper, not a MAGAt" IOW "I'm not a loser" as a balm to their butthurt.

Claustrum

(5,052 posts)
8. Errrr, when woman wore t-shirts
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:01 AM
Nov 2024

That said “he can grab my p****”, when they all wore that ear patch, when they wore shirts that said they rather be Russian, it’s really no different than this.

The only difference is this time it is directed at him and his people. Their actions are clearly a cult. I don’t say that lightly.

I guess it’s better late than never.

Nasruddin

(987 posts)
30. Everybody has their exit point
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 02:48 AM
Nov 2024

One hopes it's before someone with a gun shows up with the Flavor Aid

Cha

(309,221 posts)
13. Well would you look at that! Heck
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:10 AM
Nov 2024

Yeah I’ll Rec it.

Lol Liberals are Right.. TSF is a Cult ☠️💀

Freethinker65

(11,194 posts)
15. I know Fuentes from his HS days. Always was an opportunist.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:16 AM
Nov 2024

Being a leader of a cult was appealing to Fuentes. Easy money.

The money (and attention) is drying up. Time for something different.

oldmanlynn

(630 posts)
16. I think they're hedging that they're fixing to lose
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:21 AM
Nov 2024

Hes trying to act like they’re on the opposite side of MAGA as it looks like they’re fixing to lose. Lessen any political fallout from being pro maga

askyagerz

(901 posts)
20. More importantly I think they will start seeing
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:29 AM
Nov 2024

That Trump's power of retribution has just went up in smoke. It's OK for the rats to abandon ship now because they are within swimming distance of land

Beartracks

(13,835 posts)
18. Perhaps he just doesn't like the cult-ish optics parts, while still really liking the racist policy parts.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:25 AM
Nov 2024

Maybe he's thinking that the dumb gradeschool cosplay stuff makes it harder to take the GOP seriously, and then we all can't realize how amazingly legitimate and well-justified the party's racist underpinnings are. Of course, you can't really separate the two: both the stupid antics and the racist worldview require the same level of pre-teen rationalizing.

But anyway... gleefully "taking back" the word "garbage" or wearing tampons on their shirts, or even the stupid nicknames, these are not at all the flexes that Republicans so desperately think they are. It's just so cringe

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askyagerz

(901 posts)
23. Not only seen as cringe but extreme
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:46 AM
Nov 2024

I went to a Marilyn manson concert in the late 90s. It was in downtown Indy so several hotels got taken over and all the normal people were horrified with all these goth kids walking around.

That's what these people do when try to own the libs. They live in an echo chamber and think they are the majority. Then like eager teens they take it to circus levels which just makes everyday citizens step back and walk around

P.s. when we walked outside after the concert the churches had all gathered and formed a prayer circle around the arena. They had to bring in the riot cops to let us out. Good times!

Beartracks

(13,835 posts)
26. That concert sounds like it was a lot of fun!
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:58 AM
Nov 2024

I think I've only had to walk through (well, past) protestors once, to get into a theater to see The Last Temptation of Christ. Nothing dramatic, however, and no police presence that I recall.

But yeah, these days: circus. That's an apt description of the MAGA cult, both inside and outside their rallies. And the metaphor makes sense given that they have a ringmaster, too. He must get such a huge rush out of playing these little monkeys like a fiddle and seeing them flagellate and prostrate and make asses of themselves all in his name.

(No offense to actual monkeys intended. I was thinking of monkey see, monkey do, and it just sorta fit with the circus theme.)

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askyagerz

(901 posts)
27. We were hicks from the illinois cornfields
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:21 AM
Nov 2024

So yeah it was pretty amazing.
That's what makes me pissed about Trump the most. He's not only using people I care about but I know he's getting off on it.

I think once his retribution power dries up we are going to start hearing some really damning audio/vidoes and it will free a lot of people currently in his web

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