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Sibelius Fan

(24,632 posts)
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 11:59 PM Nov 3

I feel as sure that tRump is going to lose as I felt Mondale was going to lose

Late in his failed presidential campaign, Walter Mondale made an outdoor appearance in NYC’s garment district. I was living in NYC at the time and was one of the thousands that attended that rally. There was a palpable feeling that we were on the way to defeat. The applause seemed minimal, empty. The candidate just didn’t have the look of a person charging forward to victory.

I had the feeling that we were all being as supportive as we could be of a lost cause. But our hearts weren’t in it. I get that same feeling watching tRump rallies, especially when contrasted with the real enthusiasm one sees at Harris rallies.

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question everything

(49,173 posts)
2. You really cannot compare anything to the previous century
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 12:59 AM
Nov 4

Social Media and the proliferation of various media outlets and podcast have changed - for the worse, IMO - how people get, react and digest what they hear and read.

The way Whiny behaves - how can he possibly be a candidate, and with 50/50 chance of winning?

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
12. He's a candidate for the same reasons he was a candidate in 2016 and 2020
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:44 AM
Nov 4

Straight-ticket partisan voters will vote for any R over any D, just like most of us would vote for any D over any R.

Generational Republican voters for whom it's ingrained behavior.

Voters who dislike him personally but know he's the only option to push an extreme right agenda.

MAGA and others who agree with his agenda, share his abhorrent beliefs, and/or flock to him in cult-like fashion.

People who think he'll be better for them financially - tax cuts, etc.

His behavior is irrelevant to many, as difficult as that may be to believe. Agenda rules, for many people.

PortTack

(34,895 posts)
7. Right there with ya! I really haven't been anxious at all for the state of the race, except when Prez Biden
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 02:34 AM
Nov 4

Stepped aside. I thought then we were doomed. But, Harris took the reins mid gallop and she and her team never, and I mean never missed a step.I’ve been sure we were going to win

I never gave any mind to the polls. There are lots of ways to measure a race without looking at polls weighted towards the gqp by the likes nate silver!

mucholderthandirt

(1,232 posts)
10. I'll admit, I was worried about how it would turn out with Biden.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:45 AM
Nov 4

I thought me might still win, barely, and with contested ballots for years. As some Democrats were saying, they had someone who could beat Trump, and it wasn't Harris, I got very worried.

When he stepped aside, and named Harris as his successor, I immediately felt so joyous. It was like we'd gone from a long, hard race to barely win, possibly even lose, to one where we had it, it was going to be big, and Trump would finally leave the political stage.

Still, Keep Calm and Kamala-on! Get out the vote, the more the better, the more voices heard the better. The bigger vote count the better.

mucholderthandirt

(1,232 posts)
9. Same. Mondale was the "at least he's not the other guy".
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:37 AM
Nov 4

The first vote blue, no matter who candidate I remember. The kind of candidate Democrats should never, ever put up again, from president all the way down to dog catcher.

I sometimes wonder, if Dems had put up a better candidate would we be where we're at today. Mondale was not the first, and certainly not the last. It is the doom of the country to even consider someone who can't win because they're not actually a good candidate.

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