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Why do you say that ? Beachnutt Nov 5 #1

And who do you think they know won? cyndensco Nov 5 #3

Kamala. W_HAMILTON Nov 5 #6

Really? Seriously? Get out! tinrobot Nov 5 #13

I wish But how would they know samsingh Nov 5 #22

Because they are political insiders that have contacts with campaign insiders that know more than anyone else... W_HAMILTON Nov 5 #25

They're frankly giddy. dchill Nov 5 #28

General vibes AZSkiffyGeek Nov 5 #7

If they call it early Dumpy Nov 5 #12

I always enjoy looking for those non verbal cues they give off. aeromanKC Nov 5 #2

I don't care how giddy somebody is. LisaL Nov 5 #5

Some of us trust people in-the-know rather than random perma-Debbie downers on the internet, though. W_HAMILTON Nov 5 #8

lol WarGamer Nov 5 #15

People in the know haven't actually said they know who won, so what are you trusting here? LisaL Nov 5 #27

How could they know who won when the votes haven't been counted yet? LisaL Nov 5 #4

Because they are getting direct information from campaign insiders that get paid to do this. W_HAMILTON Nov 5 #9

Voter turnout precinct by precinct doesn't tell you how these people voted. LisaL Nov 5 #16

They can make a good goddamn educated guess. W_HAMILTON Nov 5 #20

votes haven't been counted... Crystal Ball doesn't count WarGamer Nov 5 #17

We aren't talking Trump-paid pollsters here. W_HAMILTON Nov 5 #21

So insiders get to count votes before State officials? Ok I understand WarGamer Nov 5 #23

Using your rationale, I suppose you don't trust when they call states early before all the votes are counted, right? W_HAMILTON Nov 5 #29

But nobody calls the state before any vote is counted. LisaL Nov 5 #32

Bullshit. Some will be immediately called the second polls closed and before any votes are reported. W_HAMILTON Nov 5 #34

Yeah, we just don't know that Harris is going to win California AZSkiffyGeek Nov 5 #35

If you don't think the campaigns have very accurate polls Cuthbert Allgood Nov 5 #18

My heart oh my! Dem4life1234 Nov 5 #10

They don't know jack. Sorry lol. kerouac2 Nov 5 #11

I hope you're right! BootinUp Nov 5 #14

No. They really don't. Scrivener7 Nov 5 #19

wow! PA not counted yet and they know. how was this knowledge revealed? DoBW Nov 5 #24

They are smiling, so the OP here thinks they know everything. LisaL Nov 5 #26

Were they equally optimistic early on back in 2016? regnaD kciN Nov 5 #31

No AZSkiffyGeek Nov 5 #33

they don't know yet, but at the very least they aren't looking worried yet, which is good fishwax Nov 5 #30

Beachnutt

(8,208 posts)

1. Why do you say that ?

Reply to AZSkiffyGeek (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:00 PM

Nov 5

just curious

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cyndensco

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3. And who do you think they know won?

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:01 PM

Nov 5

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W_HAMILTON

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6. Kamala.

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:02 PM

Nov 5

Steele outright said that people think Kamala will win North Carolina.

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tinrobot

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13. Really? Seriously? Get out!

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:09 PM

Nov 5

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samsingh

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22. I wish But how would they know

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:14 PM

Nov 5

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W_HAMILTON

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25. Because they are political insiders that have contacts with campaign insiders that know more than anyone else...

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:18 PM

Nov 5

...about how things are going.

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dchill

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28. They're frankly giddy.

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:19 PM

Nov 5

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AZSkiffyGeek

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7. General vibes

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:04 PM

Nov 5

And Steele all but said that Harris won North Carolina.

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Dumpy

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12. If they call it early

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:08 PM

Nov 5

the loser viewers, they lose advertising $$$

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aeromanKC

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2. I always enjoy looking for those non verbal cues they give off.

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:01 PM

Nov 5

Lot's of giddiness tonight.

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LisaL

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5. I don't care how giddy somebody is.

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:02 PM

Nov 5

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W_HAMILTON

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8. Some of us trust people in-the-know rather than random perma-Debbie downers on the internet, though.

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:04 PM

Nov 5

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WarGamer

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15. lol

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:09 PM

Nov 5

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LisaL

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27. People in the know haven't actually said they know who won, so what are you trusting here?

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:19 PM

Nov 5

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LisaL

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4. How could they know who won when the votes haven't been counted yet?

Reply to AZSkiffyGeek (Original post)

Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:01 PM

Nov 5

Jeez.

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W_HAMILTON

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9. Because they are getting direct information from campaign insiders that get paid to do this.

Reply to LisaL (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:05 PM

Nov 5

They know voter turnout, precinct-by-precinct, and can extrapolate that and determine where it looks like things are going.

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LisaL

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16. Voter turnout precinct by precinct doesn't tell you how these people voted.

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:10 PM

Nov 5

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W_HAMILTON

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20. They can make a good goddamn educated guess.

Reply to LisaL (Reply #16)

Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:12 PM

Nov 5

Once again, they get paid to do this.

Kamala and her team will know whether or not she won well before you or anyone else in the public does.

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WarGamer

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17. votes haven't been counted... Crystal Ball doesn't count

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:10 PM

Nov 5

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W_HAMILTON

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21. We aren't talking Trump-paid pollsters here.

Reply to WarGamer (Reply #17)

Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:14 PM

Nov 5

Sorry to burst your bubble, but these are knowledgeable campaign insiders that have done this for many elections and campaigns and they very much can extrapolate and infer actual results based on the data they have available to them.

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WarGamer

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23. So insiders get to count votes before State officials? Ok I understand

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:15 PM

Nov 5

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W_HAMILTON

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29. Using your rationale, I suppose you don't trust when they call states early before all the votes are counted, right?

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Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:20 PM

Nov 5

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LisaL

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32. But nobody calls the state before any vote is counted.

Reply to W_HAMILTON (Reply #29)

Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:22 PM

Nov 5

Jeez.

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W_HAMILTON

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34. Bullshit. Some will be immediately called the second polls closed and before any votes are reported.

Reply to LisaL (Reply #32)

Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:25 PM

Nov 5

Case in point, Vermont was called at 7pm and yet it has -- *goes to check* -- 2% of the vote being reported right now, almost half an hour after the call was made.

Have you actually watched our U.S. elections?