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hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:05 AM Nov 7

How is everyone handling the hate they feel right now?

I hate them. I hate them all. I hate every last one of them. To me, every single person who voted for Trump condemned me and my gender for being strong and capable. I’ve spent my entire life being a strong and capable woman and yet Trumpers want us to be submissive ninnies?

I have already cleared out my friends, family and business associates (as much as possible as I live in Texas) who are Trump idiots. I did that in 2016.

I am only a few months away from full retirement and when I get to that point, I intend to become a complete hermit and just stay away from them all.

Hate is not healthy, I realize, but I will not EVER forgive them for handing MY country over to Putin willingly and easily, and slapping in the face EVERY principle that EVER made this country great.

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How is everyone handling the hate they feel right now? (Original Post) hamsterjill Nov 7 OP
Not well XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #1
I hope she does, too! hamsterjill Nov 7 #9
I gave that bitch over 400 XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #25
I am not handling my HATE well at all ...... I wish i could shoot Them all. Im not violent either. Trueblue1968 Nov 7 #158
They just punched every woman in the face. That's what happened. Walleye Nov 7 #2
Yes--they punched us in the face, pushed us to the ground, and then, boot on our necks, snarled, "now, stay down!" Timeflyer Nov 8 #166
There isn't enough sugar in the world orangecrush Nov 7 #3
No hate, just sorrow and fear Fiendish Thingy Nov 7 #4
Hate may be a waste of time, but it's real and I feel it for every trumper right now. lark Nov 7 #110
I don't hate them, I just hope they suffer. Polly Hennessey Nov 7 #5
I feel the same way. hamsterjill Nov 7 #12
I am livid. I don't see getting over it ever. onecaliberal Nov 7 #111
Do What Gov. Walz Suggested and Multitask. The_Counsel Nov 7 #128
I feel like every time someone complains relayerbob Nov 8 #171
I will not have anything to do with MAGA relatives, except for brief necessary exchanges. Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #6
and that's even difficult for me...ugh La Coliniere Nov 7 #100
Glad I Don't Own A Gun SoCalDavidS Nov 7 #7
I am going to do the opposite gab13by13 Nov 7 #8
I've had a similar line of thinking. yardwork Nov 7 #40
You bet, I am going to seek them out and hound them. gab13by13 Nov 7 #51
I saw that video. hamsterjill Nov 7 #56
Bingo. yardwork Nov 7 #69
Some news show talked about that the other day... usedtobedemgurl Nov 7 #84
As I always say..it's better to be pissed off than pissed on. BattleRow Nov 7 #101
Harass them...when things go bad. Septua Nov 7 #125
Hate eats at you. I don't hate anyone. It isn't healthy for ourselves. Groundhawg Nov 7 #10
nope. suppressing the hate is the thing that's unhealthy NoRethugFriends Nov 7 #95
I'm un-friending anyone who posted they're happy TFG won Freddie Nov 7 #11
I never understood Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #49
Anti-vax, anti-science doctors and nurses... deurbano Nov 8 #173
TSF - The sick fuck. onecaliberal Nov 7 #113
I feel more sadness than hate. Ocelot II Nov 7 #13
Well said WestMichRad Nov 7 #97
I, too, am mostly sad, but still trying to process the meaning of this election result. Lonestarblue Nov 7 #116
I went to a Sabrina Carpenter concert last night. pfitz59 Nov 7 #14
Well women damn sure didn't do it this time! hamsterjill Nov 7 #19
Trump's strategy of using threats and intimidation worked gab13by13 Nov 7 #28
But her endorsement rendered 300,000 voter registrations in 24 hours hamsterjill Nov 7 #52
Or many, if not most of them, Mr.Bill Nov 7 #74
This message was self-deleted by its author Different Drummer Nov 7 #94
Wtf.... She endorsed harris immediately after the debate questionseverything Nov 7 #149
She Put Out A Lovely Written Endorsement SoCalDavidS Nov 7 #152
On Election Day she put out a tic toc explaining why voting for harris was so important questionseverything Nov 7 #155
It Hardly Matters Now SoCalDavidS Nov 7 #157
Interesting. I had a similar feeling when I saw the movie Mama Mia 2. LisaM Nov 7 #98
Well, 70% of them likely didn't vote, or voted against Harris relayerbob Nov 8 #170
I'm kinda in denial still. But, not all the time. I wind in and out of it . mucifer Nov 7 #15
Yes, I am having SilverDawg Nov 7 #16
Mostly I hate the way I feel BeyondGeography Nov 7 #17
Yeah, it feels like 84 to me LeftInTX Nov 7 #54
Really good point Evolve Dammit Nov 7 #75
I'm oddly at peace with myself Mz Pip Nov 7 #18
This GenThePerservering Nov 7 #24
I largely agree with this. TwilightZone Nov 7 #31
As long as Medicare and Social Seecurity holds up, Mr.Bill Nov 7 #78
Don't forget the poorer of us who need/have Medicaid! electric_blue68 Nov 7 #156
No. They will just blame Democrats. travelingthrulife Nov 7 #123
I have never wished anyone ill Bettie Nov 7 #20
+1000 hamsterjill Nov 7 #41
You're not wishing them ill, you're wishing them reality. hatrack Nov 7 #145
Feel the same way. Want to enjoy schadenfreude when the Leopard eats their face. LiberalLoner Nov 7 #21
Badly I am afraid. MuseRider Nov 7 #22
It's hard. Quiet Em Nov 7 #23
Jump in, anyway. nt GenThePerservering Nov 7 #29
Yeah, I know Quiet Em Nov 7 #34
No, don't unless you know they aren't Trumpers hamsterjill Nov 7 #43
Political litmus test. roamer65 Nov 7 #32
Yeah, anyone with that sticker is getting avoided. Quiet Em Nov 7 #36
...and for safety sake too. roamer65 Nov 7 #37
Just slow down and tell them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps Ray Bruns Nov 7 #112
Badly MaryMagdaline Nov 7 #26
In a word, lousy. CanonRay Nov 7 #27
I'm channeling it into a severe austerity budget. roamer65 Nov 7 #30
I'm doing the same. A one-family attempt to collapse the Trump economy, lol. Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #48
There is power in numbers. roamer65 Nov 7 #63
Yep. I'm the same way lately--hoard the money, move it around as you see fit, but don't buy shit you don't need. Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #68
Collapsing the economy is part of their plan. Nt lostnfound Nov 9 #179
I'm felt the hate initially but now, it just is what it is. Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #33
I will only engage with them only in the most minimum ways possible, and will absolutely refuse to discuss anything JohnSJ Nov 7 #35
You won't ever change their minds, anyway. They have their beliefs and grievances and Wingus Dingus Nov 7 #42
I hate them. StarryNite Nov 7 #38
I'm allowing myself all my feelings and allowing them to change. yardwork Nov 7 #39
Rec'd Kaleva Nov 7 #50
Thanks. yardwork Nov 7 #65
Not hate ... it's more a combo of frustration and disgust ... and dread for the future FakeNoose Nov 7 #44
And wait til the tariffs kick in Freddie Nov 8 #177
I don't feel hate Kaleva Nov 7 #45
I'm still recoverng from being on my feet for a month! LeftInTX Nov 7 #46
TY for all you did! moonscape Nov 7 #67
What hate? joshcryer Nov 7 #47
You're absolutely right ailsagirl Nov 8 #174
For my sanity I need to take a break Luck Counts Nov 7 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Nanuke Nov 7 #109
I have been going through my social media feeds TBF Nov 7 #55
Were you not old enough to vote in 2016? hamsterjill Nov 7 #58
At that point I don't think I truly appreciated TBF Nov 7 #133
Thank you for your honesty. hamsterjill Nov 7 #137
Remove them from your personal intimate Blue Full Moon Nov 7 #57
No hate, but plenty of anger. Dulcinea Nov 7 #59
I hope you are right but I don't think you are. hamsterjill Nov 7 #61
I'm staying away from hate ... Jkanad Nov 7 #60
My sister in law who is married to a maga ( who's marriage I think is going to end soon) told her brother kimbutgar Nov 7 #62
It blows my mind how any liberal woman could stay married to a MAGA. hamsterjill Nov 7 #138
When the disasterous debate happened he was gloating kimbutgar Nov 7 #147
I am letting my hate flow freely through City Lights Nov 7 #64
Good beer & good music. CaptainTruth Nov 7 #66
Not well. Feel similarly. Total legal system collapse and Evolve Dammit Nov 7 #70
Hate kills the soul of the hater. Don't hate. Hesitate. Contemplate. Educate. Emulate. Communicate. Devastate. ancianita Nov 7 #71
I'm not handling it well at all. Somehow, I have to get my brain focused on something other than politics. Vinca Nov 7 #72
I don't really feel hate jfz9580m Nov 7 #73
I am right there with you FirstLight Nov 7 #76
I don't like to hate... 2naSalit Nov 7 #77
The horror at our national suicide is just sinking in. NNadir Nov 7 #79
Using it to simplify my life . . . hatrack Nov 7 #80
I have given up on them. usedtobedemgurl Nov 7 #81
Turned on a local sports radio channel nitpicked Nov 7 #82
Music Figarosmom Nov 7 #83
Hear, hear! BigmanPigman Nov 7 #85
I realized a long time ago that the consequences of hate are essentially self-destructive. patphil Nov 7 #86
I prefer to learn to be indifferent to their fate. Hate requires the expenditure of dobleremolque Nov 7 #87
Shock, then sadness, disappointment... and now... Trust_Reality Nov 7 #88
PS Trust_Reality Nov 7 #92
Better now. duncang Nov 7 #89
Like this. It goes through my fingers. lees1975 Nov 7 #90
not well... da svenster Nov 7 #91
When trumpers DownriverDem Nov 7 #93
I think about the leopard chewing off their faces. GoCubsGo Nov 7 #96
I'm cutting all Republicans out of my life. Rizen Nov 7 #99
I did that in 2016. hamsterjill Nov 7 #103
For me, Elessar Zappa Nov 7 #153
My MAGA neighbor blueknight73 Nov 7 #102
That was a dumb thing to tell anyone XanaDUer2 Nov 7 #104
Please don't Vogon_Glory Nov 7 #130
I think you should. hamsterjill Nov 7 #139
I have the wheels blueknight73 Nov 7 #146
Good for you. hamsterjill Nov 7 #164
Good for you. hamsterjill Nov 7 #165
I refuse to acknowledge the results of this election. Not today, not ever. Initech Nov 7 #105
Not julmur Nov 7 #106
I have lunch every Friday with my repug former bff as of Tues. lark Nov 7 #107
I haven't picked any fights yet, but I've been in a simmering rage since 1994 because of Newt Gingrich LT Barclay Nov 7 #108
I feel it in my body adam_vermont Nov 7 #114
They despise us to the core sky_masterson Nov 7 #115
Saddened but, no hate in my heart Darnell1972 Nov 7 #117
This country is dead to me. VanceFan Nov 7 #118
i've swapped the hate for complete contempt and disgust for Don and those who voted for him. Ping Tung Nov 7 #119
I'm sitting with it for as long as I need to Coexist Nov 7 #120
My hate is all consuming... Moostache Nov 7 #121
Half of Americans rejected this IronLionZion Nov 7 #122
There are three MAGATs I can't cut off Bayard Nov 7 #124
I can certainly respect your right to do that (i.e., keep them in your life). hamsterjill Nov 7 #140
Hate and resentment are dangerous emotions for me Vogon_Glory Nov 7 #126
Agreed osaMABUSh Nov 7 #127
Terrified but turning it into action on this end gay texan Nov 7 #129
Hate is unproductive. It's draining. I'm too old to hate. I no longer go there. Doodley Nov 7 #131
I am done with religion. Dawson Leery Nov 7 #132
The opposite of love is indifference. morillon Nov 7 #134
I don't feel hate. It's more like resigned disgust. haele Nov 7 #135
I do not hate. H2O Man Nov 7 #136
You are to be commended. hamsterjill Nov 7 #141
Yes H2O Man Nov 7 #142
Not really hatred. Different Drummer Nov 7 #143
I'm beyond hate with these Jspur Nov 7 #144
Trying my best to ignore anything maga SunImp Nov 7 #148
Amen. Duppers Nov 7 #150
deleted snpsmom Nov 7 #151
Video games and reading fantasy/scifi novels LoveSucky Nov 7 #154
I feel a lot like you. lobointexas Nov 7 #159
We as liberals and progressives B.See Nov 7 #160
I hate them more! LiberalFighter Nov 7 #161
It's what keeps me going Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 7 #162
Hate was in me at first.... Mystery sage Nov 7 #163
More or less okay DemonGoddess Nov 8 #167
Not well! BlueMTexpat Nov 8 #168
Like any other grief GreatGazoo Nov 8 #169
I'm awful samplegirl Nov 8 #172
Almost called you yesterday! hamsterjill Nov 8 #176
Hate is corrosive. hay rick Nov 8 #175
My family Linda ladeewolf Nov 8 #178
Fortunately, we have been able to have a few days off Meowmee Nov 9 #180
Just angry Old_kid Nov 9 #181
No problem with the hate PhilosopherKing Nov 9 #182
Not good 😞 so worried about everything going to 💩. Can't sleep good. Don't want to talk to anyone. TommieMommy Nov 9 #183
I was thinking of performatively wailing Sympthsical Nov 9 #184

XanaDUer2

(14,738 posts)
25. I gave that bitch over 400
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:37 AM
Nov 7

With her constant poor mouthing. Shes insane over immigrants. I put up a pro-harris thing she ha ha on fb she started it

Trueblue1968

(18,285 posts)
158. I am not handling my HATE well at all ...... I wish i could shoot Them all. Im not violent either.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:10 PM
Nov 7

Timeflyer

(2,741 posts)
166. Yes--they punched us in the face, pushed us to the ground, and then, boot on our necks, snarled, "now, stay down!"
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:32 AM
Nov 8

lark

(24,372 posts)
110. Hate may be a waste of time, but it's real and I feel it for every trumper right now.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:52 PM
Nov 7

Scalding hate and rancor over their assholish hate and hurt towards the other - women, minorities, LGTBQ, Democrats as well as any country not led by a fascist dictator - which now includes us.

Polly Hennessey

(7,551 posts)
5. I don't hate them, I just hope they suffer.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:08 AM
Nov 7

Never thought I would say such a thing but I feel no sympathy for tRump voters.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
12. I feel the same way.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:14 AM
Nov 7

I am usually not vindictive but I gotta say, I hope they all - each and every one of them - suffer and I hope I get the opportunity to tell them I don’t give a damn!

The_Counsel

(1,744 posts)
128. Do What Gov. Walz Suggested and Multitask.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:15 PM
Nov 7

Hate them AND hope they suffer. A lot.

There really is no excuse for handing the entire country over to fascist dictators because you can't handle being "ruled by the wimmen folk." Just no excuse.

Yet here we are.

relayerbob

(7,071 posts)
171. I feel like every time someone complains
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 09:42 AM
Nov 8

The first thing out of my mouth will be, did you vote for Harris? If not, shrug, and save my compassion for those who did.

gab13by13

(25,463 posts)
8. I am going to do the opposite
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:11 AM
Nov 7

I live among Magats and I am going to search them out and harass them when things turn bad. I am not hateful I am pissed, and I am going to fight them.

The line I used on them pre-election was that I cannot vote for someone who raped little girls at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion and then I walked away, I learned to never debate with them because they are zombies.

yardwork

(64,830 posts)
40. I've had a similar line of thinking.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:55 AM
Nov 7

I'm thinking that we need to complain more. Republican policies have hurt me personally, but I don't complain about it. When my MAGA BIL pisses and moans about how he doesn't feel safe (he's a huge Latino man terrified of crime that never affects him), I'm going to mention how Trump's tax law cost me a lot of money with my mom's inheritance. I'm going to start mentioning that to my tax preparer, too. Before, I've been too polite.

When the price of everything goes up due to Trump's policies, I'm going to complain. Loudly. And blame Trump.

gab13by13

(25,463 posts)
51. You bet, I am going to seek them out and hound them.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:12 AM
Nov 7

Someone posted a video here earlier of a Trump supporter who sells Trump T shirts and hats made in China. He was being interviewed and he had the wrong idea about how tariffs work. He believed that tariffs would lower inflation. A passerby stopped and explained it so he could understand. He asked the Magat, you buy T shirts from China for 10 dollars and sell them for 20, right? Magat says right. Guy says, with tariffs it is going to cost you 15 dollars for T-shirts are you still going to sell them for 20 dollars. Guy, hesitates then says no I will pass the costs off to the consumer. Passerby throws his hands up in the air and grunts and walks away.

yardwork

(64,830 posts)
69. Bingo.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:31 AM
Nov 7

I'm not going to search anybody out, but I'm going to stop censoring myself from mentioning whose policies are causing me problems.

And by the way, the price of gas is so low today that I thought the pump was malfunctioning. I couldn't believe my tank was full at that price. Thank you, Joe Biden!

usedtobedemgurl

(1,452 posts)
84. Some news show talked about that the other day...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:51 AM
Nov 7

Or maybe it was talk radio. Trump said he is going to drill, drill, drill. Well there will be so much oil that OPEC will cut back until they raise the prices really high! Trump is such an idiot.

Septua

(2,628 posts)
125. Harass them...when things go bad.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:10 PM
Nov 7

I just want to be able to say, "I told you so."

We were asked to "give him a chance" when he took office in 2017...how did that work out? And, I just heard someone say let's "give him a chance" this time. To do what? It's the old saw, "fool me once, your fault; fool me twice, my fault.

I'm just hoping we end up with enough Senators who will put the country before Trump...

Freddie

(9,757 posts)
11. I'm un-friending anyone who posted they're happy TFG won
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:13 AM
Nov 7

Can’t use the original meaning of TFG so we’ll use That Fucking Guy.
Thank god I’m retired as there were quite a few RWNJ teachers in my building. I managed to swallow my tears 8 years ago but not now. How teachers can support a party that hates them, hates public schools and hates unions is totally beyond my comprehension.

Dem4life1234

(2,021 posts)
49. I never understood
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:08 AM
Nov 7

I have never understood a public school teacher who supports that piece of trash.

And I'm cautious of these types teaching school children, especially when today's student body is diverse as ever. They do not need to be teachers.

The American right wing nut is a strange creature.

deurbano

(2,960 posts)
173. Anti-vax, anti-science doctors and nurses...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 09:49 AM
Nov 8

Union members for union busting. Christians for the Anti-Christ. Seniors for gutting Social Security and Medicare. Racial minorities for racism, women for misogyny, immigrants for xenophobia.

Hate and fear and ignorance trumps their own self-interest and lived experience. (Except for the small percent who make enough for their taxes to go down.)

Ocelot II

(121,646 posts)
13. I feel more sadness than hate.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:14 AM
Nov 7

Hate eats you up inside and I don't want to make my own soul as empty as theirs. I'm sad in an existential way because any remaining illusions I ever had about my country being fundamentally good and decent were finally shattered once and for all. That so many of our neighbors and families and co-workers weighed Harris against Trump and found Trump - the convicted felon, con man and habitual sex pest more worthy than an accomplished, experienced, rational, decent human being who happens to be a woman tells me that those neighbors and families and co-workers are ignorant, hateful, racist, misogynistic, easily-duped fools. I really hoped and believed that we, as a nation, were better than this, but we aren't. And that makes me very sad.

Lonestarblue

(11,997 posts)
116. I, too, am mostly sad, but still trying to process the meaning of this election result.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:59 PM
Nov 7

I am dismayed that I live in a country where a majority of voters chose a corrupt, convicted felon, sexual assaulter, morally deficient man to be our leader and to serve as a role model for our children. I am dismayed that women in states like Missouri voted to enable abortion rights and then voted for the people who promise to take away their rights out of ignorance that federal law takes precedence over state law. But what I am most trying to come to terms with is the sense that we have lost our country to religious fanatics, tech oligarchs, racists and homophobics who want to enact laws to hurt all minorities, and misogynists who see women as nothing but incubators with no rights to economic independence or a successful career. This election has been a giant slap in the face by our neighbors who have not put up a big sign telling us to go die, this is their country now and we are not wanted here.

pfitz59

(11,030 posts)
14. I went to a Sabrina Carpenter concert last night.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:15 AM
Nov 7

Actually, I worked the concert. Sold out. 14,000 fans. 90% women between the ages of 12 and 30. This in VERY blue Seattle. Their happiness and good spirits gave me hope and lifted my gloom. Harris may have lost this battle, but not the war. Trump and MAGA will over-reach. The GOP always does. Times may get tough, but the pendulum swings both ways. So let the 'bros' pound their chests all they want, ultimately it will be women who control their vote.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
19. Well women damn sure didn't do it this time!
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:18 AM
Nov 7

Where were all of the Swifties? I was so hopeful that young women were going to make an impact. They obviously didn’t.

gab13by13

(25,463 posts)
28. Trump's strategy of using threats and intimidation worked
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:38 AM
Nov 7

Taylor Swift had a tough decision to make because publicly endorsing and campaigning for Kamala would have resulted in death threats and would have affected her career. What they did to the Dixie Chicks would have paled to what they would have done to Swift.

I agree that if Taylor Swift had campaigned with Kamala she could have led a movement of young people to the polls. She just wasn't brave enough but I understand.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
52. But her endorsement rendered 300,000 voter registrations in 24 hours
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:12 AM
Nov 7

So, those young people registered and then just didn’t show up?

Mr.Bill

(24,895 posts)
74. Or many, if not most of them,
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:42 AM
Nov 7

showed up and voted for Trump. All most all Trump voters I know are under 40, and their problem, even if they don't realize it is they don't remember the bad things about Trump that I remember from the 70s, 80s and 90s and maybe even the 2000s.

I honestly thought when I heard she was registering all those young people, they included Trump voters. I don't hold it against her, though.

Response to hamsterjill (Reply #52)

questionseverything

(10,307 posts)
149. Wtf.... She endorsed harris immediately after the debate
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:31 PM
Nov 7

She did another support thing right before election day

But that wasn’t enough for you?

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
152. She Put Out A Lovely Written Endorsement
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 07:03 PM
Nov 7

To my knowledge, she never mentioned Kamala again. Either in public or at one of her shows.

And unlike other endorsers, like Bruce, Beyonce, Lady Gaga, she never once appeared alongside Kamala.

But don't worry, she'll be just fine. Probably better than fine, once DT cuts the top tax rate.

questionseverything

(10,307 posts)
155. On Election Day she put out a tic toc explaining why voting for harris was so important
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 07:56 PM
Nov 7

Then she challenged her fans to send pics to her that showed they voted….did a hashtag thing

She’s been out supporting democrats for years but go ahead and hate her

LisaM

(28,788 posts)
98. Interesting. I had a similar feeling when I saw the movie Mama Mia 2.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:19 PM
Nov 7

It didn't make logical sense to me, but I walked out of the movie (I didn't see Mama Mia and I am not even an ABBA fan) thinking, if we can still make art like this that makes people feel this good, we'll prevail in the end.

relayerbob

(7,071 posts)
170. Well, 70% of them likely didn't vote, or voted against Harris
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 09:40 AM
Nov 8

Of course they were happy. Ignorance is bliss.

BeyondGeography

(40,085 posts)
17. Mostly I hate the way I feel
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:18 AM
Nov 7

This is even worse than 2000 for me because at least I could take comfort in the fact that we actually won that election. Plus even though I knew W. would be a fuck-up I didn’t have the hard evidence in hand like we all do with Trump.

This feels like 1984, as in a fair amount of the country is getting away from us. Hating them won’t solve the political problem we face and it won’t make me feel any better in the end.

LeftInTX

(30,933 posts)
54. Yeah, it feels like 84 to me
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:15 AM
Nov 7

Even though Biden was president, Trump still ran the country. 12 years of Trump

Mz Pip

(27,942 posts)
18. I'm oddly at peace with myself
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:18 AM
Nov 7

This is out of my control. Whatever happens after January 20, it’s all on Trump, Bannon, Vance, Musk and whatever sewer rats Trump brings into the fold. MAGAs were rooting for failure for America. They managed to convince half the population it was in some downward spiral only Trump could fix. They asked for this and will reap what they sowed. Tariff induced inflation, agricultural disaster due to deported work force, insurance nightmares. It will be on them.

GenThePerservering

(2,675 posts)
24. This
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:36 AM
Nov 7

I don't give a shit about them just as they don't about us.

Indifference is better than hate - bonus is it really pisses magat men off.

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
31. I largely agree with this.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:41 AM
Nov 7

Of course, the downside is that those most impacted will be those most vulnerable, as everyone knows and expects. Unfortunately, all we can do is try to help protect them from the worst of it and try to survive until the likely backlash to the GOP arrives. We'll have to take advantage of that, but not much we can do about it now.

Mr.Bill

(24,895 posts)
78. As long as Medicare and Social Seecurity holds up,
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:46 AM
Nov 7

we will be okay. The difference between now and Trump's first term is I don't have much faith in that happening, either.

electric_blue68

(18,966 posts)
156. Don't forget the poorer of us who need/have Medicaid!
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:04 PM
Nov 7

Was middle class, set of events resulted in poverty.

(not destitute, but now depending on what they do? who knows. Trying keep fears at bay. Concentrate on the gokd, and deccent situations I have right now. Enjoy them, while keeping an eye out)

Bettie

(17,421 posts)
20. I have never wished anyone ill
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:22 AM
Nov 7

but now? I hope they all reap the consequences of their votes.

I hope that all the terrible things that are going to happen make them wonder what happened and that I can be there when they discover that it was THEIR ACTIONS that ruined them.

Sadly, they are the least self-aware people who exist, so they will blame...anyone else.

hatrack

(61,231 posts)
145. You're not wishing them ill, you're wishing them reality.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:48 PM
Nov 7

Might be their first visit, but they'll remember it for damned sure.

MuseRider

(34,420 posts)
22. Badly I am afraid.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:23 AM
Nov 7

I feel just like you do.

I cannot even say how I feel really. I did on another thread but it wore me out just putting it down.

Beware the little jokes made just so, to put you in your subservient place but sounding like a ribbing. They will apologize all over the place and then tell another one. I cannot stand the superiority of those men, oh come ON it is just a joke, and there are thousands who think we are too dumb and will accept that justification. If you were "joking" with misogyny just stop, NOW, really.

Quiet Em

(1,276 posts)
23. It's hard.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:31 AM
Nov 7

My husband and I are the type of people who always jump in to help others. We talked about this yesterday morning. How do we know the person we are helping isn't an ahole who voted against our Country, against it's people, against our allies and voted for bigotry and cruelty.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
43. No, don't unless you know they aren't Trumpers
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:59 AM
Nov 7

Don’t help the other side. There are plenty of Dems who will need help. Spend your time wisely!

roamer65

(37,246 posts)
32. Political litmus test.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:42 AM
Nov 7

Easy example.

If someone’s car is broken down along the road and they have Dump stickers, you just keep driving.

If they ask just say sorry I can’t help you.

Quiet Em

(1,276 posts)
36. Yeah, anyone with that sticker is getting avoided.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:43 AM
Nov 7

Same with anyone with the hat, the shirt, anything cult related.

roamer65

(37,246 posts)
30. I'm channeling it into a severe austerity budget.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:39 AM
Nov 7

I was slashing my spending anyway, now is time for the machete.

roamer65

(37,246 posts)
63. There is power in numbers.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:24 AM
Nov 7

Over the past few days I’ve removed at least $2000 in appliance related spending.

Wingus Dingus

(8,413 posts)
68. Yep. I'm the same way lately--hoard the money, move it around as you see fit, but don't buy shit you don't need.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:30 AM
Nov 7

If we all did that, we could exact a little revenge.

Elessar Zappa

(16,173 posts)
33. I'm felt the hate initially but now, it just is what it is.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:42 AM
Nov 7

I plan to get off social media, DU, and the news for the next 3-6 months (however long it takes to restore my mental health) and focus on reading, hiking, binging some new shows, discovering new music, maybe traveling, etc.

JohnSJ

(96,837 posts)
35. I will only engage with them only in the most minimum ways possible, and will absolutely refuse to discuss anything
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:43 AM
Nov 7

political with them.

Wingus Dingus

(8,413 posts)
42. You won't ever change their minds, anyway. They have their beliefs and grievances and
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:59 AM
Nov 7

we'll never change that.

yardwork

(64,830 posts)
39. I'm allowing myself all my feelings and allowing them to change.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:48 AM
Nov 7

I do feel great anger and even hate, but I am inspired by better people.

I had to have a spinal x-ray today. I was checking in and the nice woman behind the desk asked how I was. She is Black, so I answered that I was unhappy with the election results. In my community, it's a very safe bet that a Black woman did not support Trump.

She said, paraphrasing, "We survived this before and we'll survive it again. We have to pull together for the good of our country. I will work for the good of our country."

It was a calm, stoic acceptance of fact and message of resilience. It was "when they go low, I will live through this and protect my loved ones by going high and supporting a higher ideal, this country."

That message from a Black woman whose ancestors were probably enslaved people, whose grandmother struggled for the right to vote in the Jim Crow south, kind of put me to shame. Her underlying message might have been, "Buck up, white lady. You ain't seen nothing yet. Watch how survival is done."

LeftInTX

(30,933 posts)
46. I'm still recoverng from being on my feet for a month!
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:07 AM
Nov 7

I knocked on 700 doors. I have a real hilly part of my precinct where it's so hilly a standard transmission would be in trouble. The houses are large , the driveways are long and doors have 10 feet of stairs going up. Kills my back! Then I did poll greeting for a candidate for two days, then on election day, I poll greeted at the library.
On Tuesday night, I was so tired, I couldn't believe what I was reading. Then I fell asleep. Woke up on Wed with a big headache snd backache.

I had a bad experience with s MAGAT at thr library. Other than that, they don't bother me.

I need some "me time" , then I will work on election data.

joshcryer

(62,510 posts)
47. What hate?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:07 AM
Nov 7
They are the hateful ones.

Ran into a guy today and congratulated him for Trump winning and he was so hateful and mean and snotty about it.

They have hate in their hearts.

I only have goodness in mine.

Luck Counts

(40 posts)
53. For my sanity I need to take a break
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:13 AM
Nov 7

Time to step away from the daily intake of the political shitshow, listen to more music, appreciate art, embrace creativity, encourage smiles.

Response to Luck Counts (Reply #53)

TBF

(34,816 posts)
55. I have been going through my social media feeds
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:15 AM
Nov 7

as I feel up to it. Folks that I didn't know well or are especially gloating with their Trump train photos. I just can't and I've already blocked them. With family members I've put them into "restricted" on Facebook for later sorting.

I've never been a person with a big circle, I tend to be a loner who spends more time in books than anywhere else! I did have a strong tie to family and old friends, though, even after going to college and moving away. This time is different. I can't find it in me to forgive people that are willing to trade their daughters for cheaper butter and eggs. I just can't do it.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
58. Were you not old enough to vote in 2016?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:20 AM
Nov 7

I’m just curious as to why you are doing that now if you didn’t do it in previous elections. I immediately got rid of all of them in 2016. I knew there was a fundamental difference between them and me. It was one of the first things that I did.

Just curious. Not making a judgment.

TBF

(34,816 posts)
133. At that point I don't think I truly appreciated
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:44 PM
Nov 7

how bad Trump could be, and I feel embarrassed about that. I didn't vote for him, and I thought he was a joke. At that point I had started culling out the gun humpers for example but not every republican. But with this election I had the advantage of remembering how bad his first term ended up being - through his mishandling of the pandemic, overturning Roe, and finally the Insurrection he instigated. That alone should have been enough for anyone. To actually see Congress under siege? Anyone who says "it wasn't that bad when he was in office" is willing to set all of that aside.

Blue Full Moon

(1,355 posts)
57. Remove them from your personal intimate
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:19 AM
Nov 7

They have shown all of us who they are. They identify as criminals. They are selfish and no thought past themselves. They will turn on each other eventually.

Dulcinea

(7,620 posts)
59. No hate, but plenty of anger.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:20 AM
Nov 7

So I'm staying off most social media lest I shoot my mouth off.

Eventually this so-called red wave will implode. The Repubs will overreach like Newt Gingrich in the 90s, & I'm here for it. They won't be able to help themselves.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
61. I hope you are right but I don't think you are.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:23 AM
Nov 7

I don’t think we will ever see a free and fair election again. I think the country is gone.

Maybe that’s why I hate them as opposed to being disappointed in them.

Jkanad

(13 posts)
60. I'm staying away from hate ...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:21 AM
Nov 7

…but to say I deeply despise trump voters is a huge understatement. Expelling all known trump admirers and voters from my life starting back in 2016 helps now because I have none close to me.

kimbutgar

(23,672 posts)
62. My sister in law who is married to a maga ( who's marriage I think is going to end soon) told her brother
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:23 AM
Nov 7

She also cut off her maga best friend.

This what the orange hate monster has brought upon us.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
138. It blows my mind how any liberal woman could stay married to a MAGA.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:12 PM
Nov 7

I wish her an easy and speedy exit.

kimbutgar

(23,672 posts)
147. When the disasterous debate happened he was gloating
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:09 PM
Nov 7

Luckily she is a flight attendant and hasn’t been home since the election. She travels almost mostly overseas for longer layovers.I feel so sorry for her. I would have been gone years ago and her kids are all grown up and none of them wanted to live home anymore even when one was unemployed. He camped on a friends couch instead, so it must be toxic for them.

City Lights

(25,442 posts)
64. I am letting my hate flow freely through
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:24 AM
Nov 7

venting with my like-minded circle. We're all venting and expressing our hatred for the moronic idiots we are surrounded by. It's helping for now, but this is no way to go through life. We are all fearing what is to come, especially how our gay and trans loved ones will fare.

CaptainTruth

(7,281 posts)
66. Good beer & good music.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:27 AM
Nov 7

For now, anyway, until I get over the shock.

If this turns out to be as bad as I fear it will, I don't think I will ever forgive anyone who voted for him.

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)
70. Not well. Feel similarly. Total legal system collapse and
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:35 AM
Nov 7

FU if you voted for the convicted mob boss. It has further divided us and "No one is above the law" is just darkly laughable.

ancianita

(38,913 posts)
71. Hate kills the soul of the hater. Don't hate. Hesitate. Contemplate. Educate. Emulate. Communicate. Devastate.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:35 AM
Nov 7
Investigate YouTube for the trump speeches to christians.
Seriously. This is what/who some Americans believe and will follow.

Are they stupid? Hell yes. Redeemable? Likely not. But hate kills the soul of the hater.

Vinca

(51,298 posts)
72. I'm not handling it well at all. Somehow, I have to get my brain focused on something other than politics.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:38 AM
Nov 7

I'm 75 and I refuse to spend 4 years of what's left of my life obsessing about that miserable orange shitstain. This morning, while doing some chores in the kitchen, I watched the British Antiques Roadshow instead of MSNBC. I got myself thinking about the value of George Harrison's guitar instead of all the federal workers who are going to be screwed over and the continuing threat to women. It worked for about 5 minutes.

jfz9580m

(15,584 posts)
73. I don't really feel hate
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:39 AM
Nov 7

I feel frustration at all the efforts at progress over the last four years laid to waste. Frustration at how much harder it is going to be to get society back on a democratic, green, fair, pro-science and egalitarian path.

Frustration that megalomaniac billionaires are making a mockery of the democratic process and projecting (that moron Musk).

I have retired the more heated mood of the preceding weeks and settled on a forward thinking path. It is better for my mental health.

I prefer to have this reaction as long as it is possible over other ones .

I just can’t afford depression and fear anymore. I am trying to be as aware as anyone but I am a scientist and I find that when I can avoid it I prefer to avoid emotion.

Frustration I can handle and work with. Look at all the stuff Dr Fauci has dealt with. And yet he carried himself through it all with dignity and professionalism. He is a role model.

FirstLight

(14,334 posts)
76. I am right there with you
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:44 AM
Nov 7

I am only protecting ME & MINE from here on out. I am still trying to figure out contingency plans, don't know if living in CA is going to be better...or worse.

I spent yesterday in bed, I think I slept for about 20 hours... but now the tears are turning into burning RAGE.

And if ANYONE says "we can agree to disagree" or "it's a difference of opinion" to me...I WILL SNAP!!

Differences of OPINION don't put people in cages, and try to hurt my trans kid, or relegate me to death by losing my healthcare... I think I will be fine. Channel that toxic rage into kicking some ASS.

I am in the throes of cleaning out my ex's stuff after a huge DV blowup 2 weeks ago. I have been in grief and shame about that too..and procrastinating handling her stuff because it made me feel so bad. Now I am using my collective anger at ALL of it and TAKIN' OUT THE TRASH!!!

I vow to take all my fear, sorrow, and anxiety and put it into righteous anger for the betterment of MY LIFE!

2naSalit

(93,779 posts)
77. I don't like to hate...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:44 AM
Nov 7

If I did I would certainly have them at the top of my list.

Instead, I see this as an opportunity in a mutual abuse relationship. The other just hit me really hard and is threatening my existence, now it's MY turn to strike back. But the best part...


They'll never see it coming.

NNadir

(34,881 posts)
79. The horror at our national suicide is just sinking in.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:47 AM
Nov 7

Happily my remaining time in the universe cannot be long, but I am concerned for my sons.

hatrack

(61,231 posts)
80. Using it to simplify my life . . .
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:47 AM
Nov 7

And it's not screaming, raging hate. Just a focused, intense coldness, like a moon of Saturn or Neptune, where methane and ammonia freeze solid.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,452 posts)
81. I have given up on them.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:47 AM
Nov 7

I basically had before, but now it is complete. Not only do they not care about us, they will cheer if we are hunted down. They cannot be helped, whether they hate, have been brainwashed or are just ignorant. I do not want to interact with them or have anything to do with them. They are hateful and hate eats away at your soul. I have decided the less I have to do with them, the better it is for me.

Figarosmom

(3,519 posts)
83. Music
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:51 AM
Nov 7

And no more tv news or front page of the newspsper( it goes into recycling immediately) only news I will accept will be from here

patphil

(7,164 posts)
86. I realized a long time ago that the consequences of hate are essentially self-destructive.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:55 AM
Nov 7

I was angry for about 24 hours after I saw that Trump had won, and the Republicans had the Senate.
But, I was able to let go of a lot of the anger before it moved into hatred. I just feel a sense of sorrow now.
I'm not going to play the blame game, but I realize that there are a whole lot of people who can't get by their belief that a women is somehow not worthy to lead this nation.
The also can't get by their racism, and false religious beliefs.
Between the sexists, racists and religious fanatics, there were too many Americans who were willing to elect a white male, regardless of how morally depraved and spiritually bankrupt he is, over a black female who is a truly an honest, decent, compassionate, very well qualified person.
I'll never understand how these people think. They ignored history, and the obvious truths of where their decision will lead this nation, and chose someone who will never be there for them down the road.
Trump is a loveless man; except for love of self. He is addicted to money, power, and control, and will do what he wants, with no regard for the people who elected him. It's too bad that the whole world will suffer as a result of his election.
This is a harsh lesson for humanity to learn.
Elect a loveless person and you'll get exactly that; a person who has no concern for you, and will do whatever he wants, no matter what the expense to the rest of us.
Don't waste your time hating him, that only fuels your own misery.

dobleremolque

(927 posts)
87. I prefer to learn to be indifferent to their fate. Hate requires the expenditure of
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:57 AM
Nov 7

emotional capital. I'd rather reserve positive emotional capital for people I love and people, things, and issues that I like.

So I pass a car that has his and their bumper stickers all over it, and it has a flat tire, and it has pulled off to the side of the road. Do I decline to stop to assist as a result of hate or do I decline to stop to assist as a result of indifference? Indifference doesn't get my blood pressure up.



Trust_Reality

(1,915 posts)
88. Shock, then sadness, disappointment... and now...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:00 PM
Nov 7

RESOLVE god damnit!

Not giving up. I'm declaring TRUTH MATTERS.

A world class con man with a lifetime of appeasement and successful bullying has easily beaten the best presidential candidate I have seen in my lifetime. That's not ok.

As Rachel and Kamala are saying, we need to stay engaged.

I am going to subscribe or donate regularly to ACLU, The Guardian News, CREW, DU, and probably AOC.

Be well. Be safe.

duncang

(3,748 posts)
89. Better now.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:01 PM
Nov 7

Went from terribly pissed off. To no I’m going become more unfiltered any time I’m around a maga idiot.

da svenster

(70 posts)
91. not well...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:05 PM
Nov 7

i went to bed early on tuesday night with a sinking feeling of gloom. seeing 2016 happening again. but i had to be up early to take my wife to the hospital the next day.

i woke up early and checked. the race had been called. and i was devastated. my wife - facing a scary surgery - didn't want to know. she found out not long before she went off to the OR where, thankfully she was unaware of anything for several hours.

the cat haus of khaos is in a funk.

my feelings? in the latest edition of The Scathing Atheist, the opening diatribe summed up how i feel. i've heard noah be angry before, but never this angry. that is where i am right now. (link to the whole podcast: https://audioboom.com/posts/8604591-recrudescent-edition)

angry as us. angry at them. angry at the folks that could somehow look past what has been promised (threatened) and think "this guy can bring back the days of $0.99 eggs.

DownriverDem

(6,698 posts)
93. When trumpers
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:08 PM
Nov 7

start whining and complaining I will be laughing my a** off. I am so looking forward to it. First up is who will be in his cabinet.

GoCubsGo

(33,204 posts)
96. I think about the leopard chewing off their faces.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:09 PM
Nov 7

These fuckers are clueless as to what is about to hit them, and they're in for the rudest of awakenings. We'll get fucked along with them, but I will enjoy watching them get their comeuppance while it happens.

Like you, I live in a red state, and I avoid these people as much as possible. I'm pretty much already a hermit.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
103. I did that in 2016.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:46 PM
Nov 7

I’m curious why others here had not already done that. It was my first step after Hillary didn’t win.

Elessar Zappa

(16,173 posts)
153. For me,
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 07:03 PM
Nov 7

I didn’t cut off people in 2016 because I thought they had been duped by a con man. In 2020, and now, there is zero excuse.

blueknight73

(313 posts)
102. My MAGA neighbor
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:45 PM
Nov 7

is a Latino man. His mom and dad are here illegally ( he told me this last year ) I'm thinking about turning them in.

Vogon_Glory

(9,601 posts)
130. Please don't
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:25 PM
Nov 7

They’re probably innocents.

Besides, there might be one of his MAGA friends itching to turn them in for farts and giggles. Let MAGA have the onus of causing misery.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
139. I think you should.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:13 PM
Nov 7

After all, it's what any "good" citizen should do, right? I'm sorry for the parents, but the Latino man is a huge hypocrite then, and he deserves to feel the backlash of his actions.

blueknight73

(313 posts)
146. I have the wheels
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:51 PM
Nov 7

in motion. Waiting for a call back. Fuck Maga. They don't give a fuck about my gay sister and her wife, or my black daughter in law

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
164. Good for you.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:48 PM
Nov 7

The “we go high” mantra got us no where. Time to play by their rules and pay some things back.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
165. Good for you.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:48 PM
Nov 7

The “we go high” mantra got us no where. Time to play by their rules and pay some things back.

Initech

(102,627 posts)
105. I refuse to acknowledge the results of this election. Not today, not ever.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:47 PM
Nov 7

Fuck you MAGA. Fuck you to the hottest, fieriest circle of hell. If there is one, may you rot in it for eternity.

julmur

(155 posts)
106. Not
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:47 PM
Nov 7

Not good, don’t accept for a second that the results were valid, feel like I can’t trust anyone

lark

(24,372 posts)
107. I have lunch every Friday with my repug former bff as of Tues.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:48 PM
Nov 7

I called her Wed. am and left a message cancelling and said I couldn't do Sat. either. She called me back and left a message that I sounded so upset - whatever in the world is wrong? I could not call her back, would yell too much. She and I have been close for over 25 years, she's a good person who would do anything in the world for me and I know she loves me and I love her. Its just at this minute I feel like she and the other tcf voters have voted to kill my family and it pisses me off. My counselor said things probably won't be as bad as I think, and that's been true often in the past, although I never ever thought it would be possible for him to win a majority like it shows now so sometimes it's worse than I think.

My counselor agreed that now was not a good time to talk to her and said it was ok to wait a week, let this process first. I hope I can talk to her without being mean by then. Thing is she's 82, so she totally fucked herself but is in total disbelief as to what orange fuckface will actually do to us. It doesn't matter - she fucked me and my husband with social security, Medicare, my child-bearing age daughter when our family including me were plagued by miscarriages and my son because he;s gay.

LT Barclay

(2,784 posts)
108. I haven't picked any fights yet, but I've been in a simmering rage since 1994 because of Newt Gingrich
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:49 PM
Nov 7

Worse after my mom and aunt died because they didn’t have access to healthcare and their cancers were caught late.
And don’t ask me about endangered species or environmental issues or I’ll find a fight before I get home.

adam_vermont

(2 posts)
114. I feel it in my body
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:56 PM
Nov 7

53 M. It's not hate I am feeling at this moment, more heavy and sad. I feel the insult and damage to women, and I grieve for you. That there are so many misinformed, hateful, stupid people. That our country can't learn lessons and think.

It makes me so sad to think about the suffering people will undergo, and the sabotage to the doing of good that will happen, to each other, to the government, to the earth.

sky_masterson

(568 posts)
115. They despise us to the core
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:56 PM
Nov 7

Everything we care about they are against.
Yet we are supposed to look past that.
It was Hard enough under George W. It's impossible under Trump.
I have sisters I probably wont see for 5 more years now.
I can't associate myself with xenophobes. I wont do it.
Deactivated my Twitter account and logged out of All my Face Book Accounts.
You all are going to be seeing a bit more of me around here because I'm going to need someone to bitch to.

Darnell1972

(17 posts)
117. Saddened but, no hate in my heart
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 12:59 PM
Nov 7

A terrible choice was made by millions of frustrated voters. Some of whom usually vote for Democrats. Still, I do not hate those I disagree with although their choice has saddened me deeply. Their misguided choice will not turn me into a hater. The 2026 mid-term elections are now less than two years away. I will put my focus there.

VanceFan

(24 posts)
118. This country is dead to me.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:02 PM
Nov 7

My wife and I are going to disengage. America is a hopeless case. Trump voters bought a ticket to hell, hope they enjoy the ride.

Goodbye and good luck!

Moostache

(10,180 posts)
121. My hate is all consuming...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:03 PM
Nov 7

I have had to dial back away from everything... I have literally spent the last 48 hours alone as much as possible. I have not watched ANY news coverage, no speeches, no pointless navel-gazing analysts, nothing. I have gone 100% dark.

And in my darkness, hate abounds. Contempt and loathing. Vitriol and recriminations. It is toxic, it is violent, it is consuming.

If I could strike them out of existence, I might. Reason has been defeated. Rational thought is in the trash. Concepts like 'equal justice under law', 'one person, one vote', and 'all the news thats fit to print' / 'democracy dies in darkness' are laughably trite and discarded. The world I thought we lived in is exposed as a fantasy. Fairness, equality, opportunity - all bullshit.

Crony.
Money.
Profit.
Get the 'others'.
Blame.

Those are the currency of the realm now.

I refuse to participate.

I apologize to my unfortunate friends who cannot take my cowardly way out. I am white. I am male. I am 53 years old. In short, at a glance and by education and birth, I'm "in the club"... Unless I choose to speak out, most dipshits who are in the cult of personality simply speak around me as if they are talking to a friend. I will allow them to do so. I will hide in plain sight.

But my hate will fester and grow.
My vengeance will wait.

I am going to become the 21st century Count of Monte Cristo.
It is sad that there will necessarily be people harmed when I take my revenge. But in the end, Dumas' antihero Edmond Dantes found the two words to sum up human accomplishment - Wait. and Hope.

IronLionZion

(47,225 posts)
122. Half of Americans rejected this
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:04 PM
Nov 7

so there's hope that the other half can't screw all of us all the time.

Bayard

(24,145 posts)
124. There are three MAGATs I can't cut off
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:09 PM
Nov 7

My brother, one of my best friends, and my nephew. I love them all dearly. We just don't even try to talk politics anymore.

My brother and I are the last of our family. We talk often. My friend gives me hugs when I'm down, and would do anything in the world for me, and has. My nephew is the only one of 5 nephews who has bothered to stay in touch.

I'm not going to let them go, but I am going to smile knowingly and nod when they see what their anointed one is really all about.

Otherwise, I'm still kind of numb, and deeply depressed. I'm not watching any news. I think Putin and Musk handed this to trump. I didn't watch Kamala's speech, and I'm not going to watch Joe's. I skip anything posted on DU that has trump in the title. I know Joe vowed to have a peaceful transition, but I think now is not the time to put high morality above the good of the country. The Supremes have given him unlimited power. I don't have hard suggestions yet, but I'm sure we could make a lengthy list. THIS I would be willing to get behind and fight for.

Right now, I'm going to go ride my horse, and plant some more trees.

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
140. I can certainly respect your right to do that (i.e., keep them in your life).
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:20 PM
Nov 7

I just couldn't do it if it were me. I lost a best friend of 40 years in 2016. She had recently moved to a new county near election time, and the first thing she did was to go and register to vote so that she could vote for Trump.

When Hillary was not allowed to win, she came back at me about how I needed to "give him a chance, at least". I already knew what he was and what was going to happen, and I realized that she and I had fundamentally different ways of thinking. I didn't want to argue with her, but I wasn't going to stand by and support someone who was a huge hypocrite. She is uber religious. We grew up together and she's told me that I'm going to hell over things many times. She is twice divorced - actually the second divorce wasn't a real divorce because the husband died before it was final, but it had been filed. The husband had a debilitating disease and couldn't move on his own. She sat him in his recliner one day and left. Called his two adult children and told them they needed to come and take care of their father.

When he died, she fought them for his life insurance and got half. Then she remarried almost instantaneously.

See what a "good" Christian she is? And she is indicative of ALL of them. I deserve better friends than this.

Vogon_Glory

(9,601 posts)
126. Hate and resentment are dangerous emotions for me
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:11 PM
Nov 7

I’m still angry about how the election went, but there’s nothing I can do about the outcome.

I am one of the posters on this site who happens to be a believer I find Deuteronomy 32:35 to be good enough for keeping the steam pressure down:

“…Vengeance is mine and recompense. Their foot shall slip in due time. For the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things to come hasten upon them. …”

I think that the Trumpies currently gloating and doing their happy dances have made a terrible error in judgement, and there will be consequences they won’t like, either in the future in this world or the hereafter.

osaMABUSh

(2,198 posts)
127. Agreed
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:12 PM
Nov 7

I secretly give The Finger to my two neighbors who have Drumpf signs every time I pull into my driveway.

gay texan

(2,916 posts)
129. Terrified but turning it into action on this end
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:20 PM
Nov 7

So Far.....

Seeking places to insulate my 401k, plus paying off all debts

The power grid is really going to go to shit here in Texas, so i'm looking into an off grid solar system. Getting my generators serviced out.

My biggest worries are healthcare. Some fucking religious zealot will probably make it to where my PrEP meds are not covered because gay people shouldn't have sex.

I travel with a firearm now

morillon

(1,249 posts)
134. The opposite of love is indifference.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:45 PM
Nov 7

I've got no problem with hatred when I'm in the mood for it. I will hate hate hate and not turn a hair.

But for what happened just now, I'm feeling like changing things up a bit.

If I hate, they're in my head. I'm spending brain cells on them. Brain cells I could spend on something, ANYTHING, else.

I'm still going to keep track of what's going on, so that if I need to act on something, I can respond like I normally would. But I'm doing this in a way that doesn't let those fucking people live rent free in my head.

Removing them from the continuum of love and hate altogether is intended as a type of violence even worse than hating them.

The time and energy I save with them gone from my daily thoughts is being deliberately redirected to supporting people who didn't ask for this and didn't put us here.

haele

(13,676 posts)
135. I don't feel hate. It's more like resigned disgust.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:49 PM
Nov 7

People are who they are, and you can't fix someone else's stupid.
From 1932, a majority of Germans ignored what was happening to their neighbors - sometimes to family members, and later the horrific concentration camps right next to their towns because the Nazi party was telling them they were the real victims and that the Nazis would save them from the horrible Marxist Modernists dragging honest Germans down into moral and economic poverty; bringing back a High German Renaissance.
The GOP puts on a glittery, emotionally appealing "easy fix" savior show. And most people dealing with emotionally stressful situations (whatever they are) tend to go for the easy or feel-good fix, even if they sit down and think about that "solution", it's obvious that is a stupid idea.

Once the decision is made, the sunk cost in wanting that easy fix outweighs the "wait a moment, that's a fucking stupid lie and me and my family are getting screwed hard by these yo-yos if I continue" realization.

Half of *ump's voters know they're screwed and the country is screwed. But they bought his BS in an adrenaline fueled emotional brain-fart, and they're going to ride that shit slide all the way down to rock bottom because being a victim gave them a feeling of petulant righteousness.
They're like drunks and incels. They won't admit they create most of their own problems, and they can't admit they have to figure out how to fix those problems in themselves. Big Daddy Saviour will just fix it for them.
Likewise, the ones who sit by passively and do nothing, the ones who decided not to vote for whatever reason -probably because they felt that just making a decision is too hard and wouldn't change anything right now - are playing helpless victim. They've told themselves they and their community doesn't matter.

You can't reach either group. They made their tragic choice based off a selfish emotion. They just have to make the decision to step beyond their ego bubbles and either evolve or perish with everyone else. They chose the victimhood road - the "it's someone else's responsibility" - to their future.
I recognize them for what they are, I can appeal to their "better senses", but it's their choice. I can't make them change it. I can only try and assess the situation and see where I can mitigate it, adapt, and hope.

Haele

hamsterjill

(15,545 posts)
141. You are to be commended.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:23 PM
Nov 7

I do and I'm not going to lie about it here. I hate these people and I want bad things to happen to them because they are hurting the rest of us.

I'm trying to deal with that, and I have no intention of prompting anything to make them suffer. But I guarantee you, I will ENJOY watching should something bad happen to someone that I knew voted against me, my way of life, and people that I love. Because I believe we are at that point in this country. It's them or it's us.

Peace to you and I hope you can accept my honesty.

H2O Man

(75,848 posts)
142. Yes
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:25 PM
Nov 7

Of course I accept your honesty. I know you to be a Good and Honest Person, and I always respect the comments you add to discussions on this forum.

Different Drummer

(8,823 posts)
143. Not really hatred.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:31 PM
Nov 7

More a mixture of shock, bewilderment, and confusion. I don't really understand how the American electorate could reject an obviously smart, well-qualified, articulate candidate just because of that person's race and gender in favor of an obviously low intellect person who, in the past, has stumbled/bumbled/fumbled his way through many an address, has antagonized America's foreign allies and, who, most importantly, is a convicted felon! I hate to think it's a simple matter of him hating the same people they do, but maybe that's the answer.

I think Einstein said something to the effect of, "If you do the same thing the same way, you're going to get the same results." We've seen this movie before, so what makes people think things will be different this time? Whatever will they think when tariffs and deportations increase prices at the supermarket and gas prices go up rather than down when they were convinced 666 was a better choice to improve those conditions than Kamala might have been?

As for how I'm coping, I have not watched the news in a couple of days, either local or national, and I plan to stick to that for the entirety of 666's occupation of the Oval Office. I don't want to see his face and/or hear his voice anymore, ever.

Jspur

(662 posts)
144. I'm beyond hate with these
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:43 PM
Nov 7

people who supported Trump. I have never had friends who are republican, and I have very few family members who are republicans. The ones that are republicans are scummy by nature so even before I knew they were republican voters I was estranged from them.

I don't hate them I just want to get away from these nut jobs. It's just frustrating they have more influence on the direction this country goes.

I'm cynical by nature so I can deal with the fall out of this. I more so concerned about the future and how to survive in this environment Trump will create. I do feel we are now moving towards a sharp decline in quality of life. I will have to make an attempt to leave this country in the next 10 years if things go as I believe they will go. There is no guarantee I will be successful, but I have to try to get away now.

SunImp

(2,377 posts)
148. Trying my best to ignore anything maga
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:11 PM
Nov 7

I can't ignore my boss or family so I just tune them out when they talk about Trump.

Duppers

(28,260 posts)
150. Amen.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:51 PM
Nov 7

I'll be polite but not friendly.

My brother, a Repub, lives 430miles away and will never be invited to visit me (besides, I cannot tolerate his wife),...and my Democratic sis died earlier this year.




LoveSucky

(14 posts)
154. Video games and reading fantasy/scifi novels
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 07:06 PM
Nov 7

Sometimes you need to leave this real world and enter a fantastical one for a little bit.

lobointexas

(126 posts)
159. I feel a lot like you.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:51 PM
Nov 7

I am also in Texas, but a few years away from retirement. I had a discussion about hate with my son today, via text messages. I told him that I really just care about our immediate family right now, nothing else. I don't care if the economy tanks, in fact, I want it to. I don't care if they cut programs like food stamps because it would affect red state citizens 's more anyway. Farmers in rural America didn't remember what tariffs did to them the first time around. Let them learn the hard way, but this time, no bail out.

I want nothing to do with anyone that voted for trump, which includes other family members, close friends and in-laws. His reply was that it sucks that these results make us feel that way and he was starting to feel the same way. I told him, that was the worst part of this election, it making us feel that way. It is making me be someone I don't want to be, but I can't stop it.

B.See

(3,910 posts)
160. We as liberals and progressives
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:02 PM
Nov 7

aspire to rise above the hate. And that's a noble thing.

But it also seems to me, magas have done pretty damn well on hate.

One might argue there's a lesson therein... someplace.

Mystery sage

(580 posts)
163. Hate was in me at first....
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:30 PM
Nov 7

But hate without action is a waste of my health, now I adopt it-is what -it-is attitude.

Just going to wait and say I told you so when reality hits hard for them.

The plan is to try to protect myself from these people and be financially okay.

DemonGoddess

(5,125 posts)
167. More or less okay
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 08:45 AM
Nov 8

You know why? I'm angrier than I've ever been. I'm also a vindictive old bitch. So, when anyone that starts whining about what Shitler and his cronies are doing to hurt them, I'm going to laugh at them. Granted, the rest of us will suffer as well as the idiots who voted for him, but, that's going to be one glorious I told you so at a time.

And that's about as much as I can say coherently at the moment because I am so fucking angry.

GreatGazoo

(4,013 posts)
169. Like any other grief
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 09:32 AM
Nov 8

There is a strong physical component. Emotions are easier to see and understand but grief is like puberty -- a physical process, vaguely mysterious despite its universality.

Sleep when you're sleepy
Eat (healthy) when you're hungry
Don't push yourself too hard
Take care of yourself.
Hug your dog.
Take long walks.

Be good to yourself.

samplegirl

(12,191 posts)
172. I'm awful
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 09:45 AM
Nov 8

But pretty much purged most of my family and friends that are Republican long before this happened.
Thinking of you

hay rick

(8,347 posts)
175. Hate is corrosive.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:26 AM
Nov 8

Of course I'm angry. I despise the people who brought us here, and equally or more, the inattentive and self-deluding people who just went along with Trump so they could avoid conflict with friends and family. I despise the people who did nothing because they didn't want to take sides- as if the choice of inaction would make them less culpable.

Anger is good because it is true. Anger is good when it moves you to action. Anger is bad when it raises your blood pressure. Anger is bad when it pushes you to petty reprisals. One more category that is important to me- anger is appropriate when it drives a wedge between you and your family and former friends. I am used to living with anger. The election in 2000 changed my relationship with my family. 2016 changed my relationships with friends and strangers. 2024 is just more of the same.

I want to accomplish two things while living in a society that makes me angry. First, as much as possible, I want to transform as much of that anger as possible into constructive action. Secondly, I do not want to let the anger that visits me impair my health or happiness.

There are many choices to be made.

Linda ladeewolf

(500 posts)
178. My family
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:53 AM
Nov 8

Hasn’t spoken to me in 22 years. My daughter has blamed me for every bad thing that ever happened to her, but never the actual perpetrator. My son wanted a relationship with the father who never wanted him, so he told me that he couldn’t talk or communicate with me anymore. One lives in Oklahoma the other Texas, so you can be pretty sure who they voted for. So my family is my third husband, and as all his family is gone now, we do for each other. I guess I don’t have any problems with hating Magas. They will get theirs in the end.
I’m just trying to prepare for what comes if that’s really possible. I have a long to do list.

Meowmee

(6,252 posts)
180. Fortunately, we have been able to have a few days off
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 05:11 AM
Nov 9

Which is helping. The first day I had a meltdown, an unexpected one, where I was very upset and angry, but not at those people… I was upset and angry that I have to be subjected to even more torture of a psycho forever maybe until I die.

But mostly I’ve been so exhausted and numb…it’s more like a whirlwind of what the hell is going to happen, and how are we going to be affected- Meaning me and my family. But also dread of losing my sanity, and how on earth am I going to get through this, especially without my father who was there for the first reign of terror.

I plan to ignore as much of this as I can, for self protection, and I told my brother he will have to let me know if something really terrible is going on. He is also very exhausted. This has been going on for over eight years now.

Old_kid

(2 posts)
181. Just angry
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 05:13 AM
Nov 9

I'm currently in the anger stage of the grieving process-and I'm gonna be here for a long while.

TommieMommy

(1,261 posts)
183. Not good 😞 so worried about everything going to 💩. Can't sleep good. Don't want to talk to anyone.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 06:13 AM
Nov 9

Sympthsical

(10,411 posts)
184. I was thinking of performatively wailing
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 07:02 AM
Nov 9

Then realized I wasn't at a 14th century Gaelic funeral and no one was paying me. Can you believe the number of people who do this on TikTok for free? I need at least a three potato payment upfront for keening services.

So despite my qualifications as a very pale Irish type, not quite yet at full banshee. That'll have to wait on who I end up deciding to haunt.

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