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FAFO - Tariff Edition (Original Post) Bleacher Creature Nov 2024 OP
They need to live their votes Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #1
We will all live their voters. Martin68 Nov 2024 #19
Agree, BUT durablend Nov 2024 #53
wait until our cattlemen and farmers find out about the coming trade war lapfog_1 Nov 2024 #2
They have already experienced this but nothing is ever Trump's fault. travelingthrulife Nov 2024 #13
We'll be eating the cats..and the dogs.. BattleRow Nov 2024 #17
Let them go bankrupt. roamer65 Nov 2024 #32
But they owned the Libs! Yavin4 Nov 2024 #3
They like hearing Happy Holidays. Hotler Nov 2024 #61
Trump told them the other country would pay wryter2000 Nov 2024 #4
Trump knows goddamn well how it works he knew Klarkashton Nov 2024 #6
Disagree. Trump is as stupid as they come. Ray Bruns Nov 2024 #10
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. colorado_ufo Nov 2024 #18
Stupidity 90-percent Nov 2024 #31
Yes! If a business all of a sudden has big bills they are not going Maraya1969 Nov 2024 #7
Inflation 'like you have never seen! The biggest inflation!...' Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #26
Then you come back with durablend Nov 2024 #52
I can try to explain basic market economics to magas, but my dogs get more out of the lesson than any red hat idiot. Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #55
I think he does understand how they work. gordianot Nov 2024 #43
"I want my vote back!" Klarkashton Nov 2024 #5
Us consumers pay tariffs LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #8
Womp Fucking Womp hatrack Nov 2024 #9
That is awesome! onecaliberal Nov 2024 #11
Little late to explain it IbogaProject Nov 2024 #12
Sometimes, 'businessmen' only think of the tax cuts THEY will get and forget they are not billionairs & will pay dearly Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #25
FYI: Business men ultimately don't pay the tariffs... brush Nov 2024 #29
But then ... AncientOfDays Nov 2024 #44
Maybe. But it happens daily, importers keep importing, raising prices as that's how business is done all the time. brush Nov 2024 #49
Um, yeah, thanks for the big news there Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #54
See post 49. It happens daily. Go to Lowes or Home Depot and shop.... brush Nov 2024 #56
Again, totally missed my point Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #57
What is your point? That you don't understand how tariffs work? brush Nov 2024 #58
Good. I hope they feel all the pain coming their way. SamKnause Nov 2024 #14
I agree. Let them suffer. As a bankruptcy attorney I expect to be very busy. Pepsidog Nov 2024 #63
VP Harris, Gov Walz, and Mark Cuban worked HARD to explain it they just chose to believe the other guy Coexist Nov 2024 #15
Bahahahaha I love it. BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #16
They believe what master told them. Hope22 Nov 2024 #20
The FAFO begins. Of course, on X, where Elon, tsf's economy czar, gives workers a headsup on their future. ancianita Nov 2024 #21
It is too bad Old Crank Nov 2024 #22
They wouldn't have believed him anyway. roamer65 Nov 2024 #35
Probably true Old Crank Nov 2024 #40
If the boycott momentum continues, they will soon get pink slips. roamer65 Nov 2024 #41
GOP puppet masters have been working against education since early 70s. There was a reason for that. Attilatheblond Nov 2024 #23
Brain half full optimist... littlemissmartypants Nov 2024 #24
Why would you believe a known liar. surfered Nov 2024 #27
If he had explained tariffs BEFORE they voted..... AverageOldGuy Nov 2024 #28
Tighten your belts Maggots! Maybe it's time to try out this new "Gig Economy" everyones's talking about! NBachers Nov 2024 #30
Yet another point where the news media failed us. Shipwack Nov 2024 #33
Economics 101. roamer65 Nov 2024 #34
But trump will blame the Biden. Administration Norbert Nov 2024 #36
Tough shit Sable302b Nov 2024 #37
Most likely the workers think that's BS and the company prezdint is punishing them for their votes. maxsolomon Nov 2024 #38
Read my sig line Aviation Pro Nov 2024 #39
Did the CEO take the coward's way out and blame Biden? Montauk6 Nov 2024 #42
actually the additional costs are printed right on the receipts CatWoman Nov 2024 #45
they will FAFO but will they ever fucking LEARN? LymphocyteLover Nov 2024 #46
Nope, they're Kevin Bacon's character in Animal House. Initech Nov 2024 #51
LOL--- good analogy! LymphocyteLover Nov 2024 #59
"Ha ha. Suckers!" - G.O.P. BoRaGard Nov 2024 #47
The GOP: Because fuck you, that's why! Initech Nov 2024 #48
"Ha ha. Suckers!" - Republicons BoRaGard Nov 2024 #50
As I learned as a kid growing up in New Jersey: "Tough sh**; chew harder!" Bluejeans Nov 2024 #60
I don't understand tarriffs either... Ysabel Nov 2024 #62
okay I think I understand it now... Ysabel Nov 2024 #70
I wonder how long it will take before thet same company president tells his workers to take a pay cut. patphil Nov 2024 #64
Same thing is happening Figarosmom Nov 2024 #65
Friend of mine texted that to me yesterday. Emile Nov 2024 #66
As my granny used to say "Don't make your bed hard, cuz you gotta lie in it". They are starting to find iluvtennis Nov 2024 #67
"How much in tariffs has China paid the United States Government?" KS Toronado Nov 2024 #68
Yep, I don't believe how many people don't understand how taxes work uponit7771 Nov 2024 #71
motherfuck... Ysabel Nov 2024 #69
Businesses have also stocked up, placing bigger-than-usual import orders ahead of new tariffs taking hold, LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #72
The threat of Trump's tariffs is already impacting how businesses operate, steering money away from bonuses and raises LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #73

Prairie Gates

(4,689 posts)
1. They need to live their votes
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:02 PM
Nov 2024

I'm glad they will be able to mdo so this Christmas. Tighten your belts for the common good, fellas.

durablend

(8,331 posts)
53. Agree, BUT
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:15 PM
Nov 2024

If you need some kind of durable goods (clothing, appliances, fix the house stuff), don't go on a shopping spree and rack up the credit cards but do that NOW before the Trump Tax hits (we need to call it that, none of this "tariffs" stuff that the braindead will shrug off)

travelingthrulife

(1,945 posts)
13. They have already experienced this but nothing is ever Trump's fault.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:11 PM
Nov 2024

It is just more lies by Democrats from their perspective. These people are not based in reality.

Democrats rescued those farmers. We need to let them drown. No matter how much eggs will cost.

Klarkashton

(3,234 posts)
6. Trump knows goddamn well how it works he knew
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:11 PM
Nov 2024

He could get away with a big lie and the dimwits would believe it.

colorado_ufo

(6,034 posts)
18. There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:15 PM
Nov 2024

Trump is ignorant of many things, because if it doesn't affect him, he doesn't care. But if it is to his advantage, he gets "smart" really fast. Plus, he really had nothing to run on, so he blocked approval of the border bill and invented a way to reduce the debt - tariffs! That way he could justify keeping the large corporate tax cuts - tariffs would foot the bill! Other countries would pay! Americans would pay nothing! Hahahahaha!

Maraya1969

(23,230 posts)
7. Yes! If a business all of a sudden has big bills they are not going
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 01:17 PM
Nov 2024

to take the money from their salaries. No, they raise the prices to make up for it.

Attilatheblond

(5,562 posts)
26. Inflation 'like you have never seen! The biggest inflation!...'
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:46 PM
Nov 2024

And when the peasants squawk, he will tell them 'Biden did it!' Sadly, the flippin morons will believe him.

durablend

(8,331 posts)
52. Then you come back with
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:13 PM
Nov 2024

"WHY HASN'T TRUMP PUSHED ALL THOSE LEVERS AND GOT THOSE PRICES DOWN? HE SAID EVERYTHING WOULD BE FREE!"

Attilatheblond

(5,562 posts)
55. I can try to explain basic market economics to magas, but my dogs get more out of the lesson than any red hat idiot.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:02 PM
Nov 2024

gordianot

(15,562 posts)
43. I think he does understand how they work.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:31 PM
Nov 2024

For the life of me o do not understand why he persists with this myth. This will not result in eliminating income taxes for anyone. Pat time this was attempted in the 1930’s i(Smoot Hawley)) . Guess they really like recession and have no fears of depression. Trying to explain this to MAGA’s is like talking to a brick wall.

IbogaProject

(4,195 posts)
12. Little late to explain it
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:11 PM
Nov 2024

Sounds like the Boss and owners were ok w T. If they didnt want this the time to mention this was awhile ago.

Attilatheblond

(5,562 posts)
25. Sometimes, 'businessmen' only think of the tax cuts THEY will get and forget they are not billionairs & will pay dearly
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:44 PM
Nov 2024

Fools, as far as the eye can see.... fools

brush

(59,415 posts)
29. FYI: Business men ultimately don't pay the tariffs...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:00 PM
Nov 2024

they just raise the price of their goods to get back the tariff money so we, us, the consumers pay the tariffs, which also raises inflation.

trump's tariffs makes us two-time losers.

brush

(59,415 posts)
49. Maybe. But it happens daily, importers keep importing, raising prices as that's how business is done all the time.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:09 PM
Nov 2024

Go to importers like Home Depot, Lowes, department stores, even online shopping...you're paying prices that are set to recoup importers tariff payments. It's just about unavoidable.

Attilatheblond

(5,562 posts)
54. Um, yeah, thanks for the big news there
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:59 PM
Nov 2024

But a businessman who needs to purchase parts to keep things running still has to make the initial outlay of cash and HOPE the products will still sell at the tariff inflated price. It's almost like a farmer who has to buy the seed, the equipment to plant and then harvest while hoping weather and market will make it work in the end. The initial investment has to be made and Trump will put a lot of small businesses out of business, which the fat cats love to see.

brush

(59,415 posts)
56. See post 49. It happens daily. Go to Lowes or Home Depot and shop....
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:23 PM
Nov 2024

you'll be helping the importer recoup his tariff expense when you make many purchases. It's not unusual. It's how many businesses operate. Sorry if this is surprising to you.

SamKnause

(14,131 posts)
14. Good. I hope they feel all the pain coming their way.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:12 PM
Nov 2024

Gullible stupid fucks have gotten us into a fine fucking mess !!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel no sympathy for them.

I have sympathy for those of us who voted for sanity, experience, personality, policies for the working class, tax incentives for small

businesses, etc.

Fuck them for putting us through this evil shit again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
15. VP Harris, Gov Walz, and Mark Cuban worked HARD to explain it they just chose to believe the other guy
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:12 PM
Nov 2024

FAFO is upon us

Hope22

(3,806 posts)
20. They believe what master told them.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:27 PM
Nov 2024

Never questioning. The rest of us out here…..screaming at the TV.

ancianita

(40,215 posts)
21. The FAFO begins. Of course, on X, where Elon, tsf's economy czar, gives workers a headsup on their future.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:27 PM
Nov 2024

Also, as Trump's economy czar, Elon advises management to do what he'd do if/when employees don't like some management decision -- fire them.

Old Crank

(5,463 posts)
22. It is too bad
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:40 PM
Nov 2024

That he didn't have the discussion earlier.
Who knows if it would have made a difference in the vote but they could see the direct cost to them by voting Trump.

roamer65

(37,523 posts)
35. They wouldn't have believed him anyway.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:05 PM
Nov 2024

It’s all a conspiracy to all these bags of unwanted DNA.

Attilatheblond

(5,562 posts)
23. GOP puppet masters have been working against education since early 70s. There was a reason for that.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:41 PM
Nov 2024

They do better when We The People are dumbed down.

littlemissmartypants

(27,066 posts)
24. Brain half full optimist...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:43 PM
Nov 2024
Text:
Original Tweet:
Anyone with half a brain would support Donald J. Trump for President.
Reply:
Whereas, people with their brains fully intact are supporting Kamala Harris.





They're all incredibly idiotic, aren't they?

I'm entering my Supreme Snark Art of War Era and I'm going to pound the "price of eggs" every damn day just for the hell of it.

I plan to mount a war of words to keep myself entertained, my mind sharp and the enemy guessing. Because make no mistake, they and their ignorance are the enemy.



❤️pants


AverageOldGuy

(2,513 posts)
28. If he had explained tariffs BEFORE they voted.....
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:57 PM
Nov 2024

It would have made no difference, they would not have believed him and would have written him off as a lib.

And, you are right - they have FA’ed, now let them FO. Hope the whole lot of them lose their jobs - only to find Project 2025 has abolished unemployment insurance.

NBachers

(18,412 posts)
30. Tighten your belts Maggots! Maybe it's time to try out this new "Gig Economy" everyones's talking about!
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:00 PM
Nov 2024

Shipwack

(2,561 posts)
33. Yet another point where the news media failed us.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:01 PM
Nov 2024

I saw no pushback from the MSM about how tariffs really work, and that Trump’s explanation was completely incorrect.

Well, maybe someone corrected him once, I think, but he just doubled down on his lie and the questioner didn’t pursue it. Probably because economics is “boring”…

Norbert

(6,953 posts)
36. But trump will blame the Biden. Administration
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:06 PM
Nov 2024

And they will believe every word of it. You can't fix stupid.

maxsolomon

(36,179 posts)
38. Most likely the workers think that's BS and the company prezdint is punishing them for their votes.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:22 PM
Nov 2024

New tariffs in whatever industry this is isn't a done deal.

Just as likely the industry leaders could bend the knee to MFer and he'd forego imposing tariffs.

CatWoman

(79,931 posts)
45. actually the additional costs are printed right on the receipts
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:35 PM
Nov 2024

when Trump pulled the tariff card before, i made a habit of studying the receipt of every purchase to see what the added costs were.

Initech

(104,396 posts)
51. Nope, they're Kevin Bacon's character in Animal House.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:13 PM
Nov 2024

"Thank you sir, may I have another?".

Bluejeans

(103 posts)
60. As I learned as a kid growing up in New Jersey: "Tough sh**; chew harder!"
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:53 AM
Nov 2024

I don't know about anyone else, but I was taught in grammar school in NJ about trade tariffs and their impact on the importing country's economy.

I guess a lot of people at that factory in SW PA missed those lessons or didn't pay attention. All I can say to them is "Tough sh**; chew harder!"

Ysabel

(2,080 posts)
62. I don't understand tarriffs either...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:01 AM
Nov 2024

Can somebody explain Tarriff's for dummies 101 or the like?

- TIA...

patphil

(7,600 posts)
64. I wonder how long it will take before thet same company president tells his workers to take a pay cut.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:01 PM
Nov 2024

When the inventory he is buying now runs out, the tariff will still be there, and the cost of his company's products will rise.
If sales drop due to higher prices, the choices will be to either let workers go, or for all the workers to take a pay cut to save jobs. The alternative will be that the company goes under.
This is how a depression starts. It will take a while for the economy to react to the inflationary pressures that a broad-based tariff will generate. Some businesses will thrive, but many others will not. Of course, the workers will be the first to see the effects of a tariff based trade policy.
Add to that the removal of all those immigrants from the labor pool, and we have a recipe for economic collapse.
It seems we have a large number of Americans who are either totally ignorant of how the economy works, or simply don't care about the implications of what Trump plans to do.
Just like the wall that Mexico was going to pay for, Trump is telling folks that the selling nation pays the tariff. It won't cost us a thing, and there will be a tremendous benefit to us all.

There's an old saying, "we get too soon old, and too late smart".
Unfortunately, the second half of this saying may be, at best, a deathbed realization.

Figarosmom

(5,001 posts)
65. Same thing is happening
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:06 PM
Nov 2024

At Linnies. And they are owned by coors . The procurement officer was on tv and said they would not be able to afford future needs. Of course coors says they are consolidating .

Emile

(33,753 posts)
66. Friend of mine texted that to me yesterday.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:10 PM
Nov 2024

Lots of people don't understand that tariffs are a tax on the American people. Tariffs and Latino deportation by Herbert Hoover started the Great Depression.

iluvtennis

(21,116 posts)
67. As my granny used to say "Don't make your bed hard, cuz you gotta lie in it". They are starting to find
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:40 PM
Nov 2024

out the hard way that TSF's "policies" are going to hurt their pocketbooks.

KS Toronado

(21,011 posts)
68. "How much in tariffs has China paid the United States Government?"
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:42 PM
Nov 2024

Should have been the question we were asking reQublicans with a follow up of..."Go ahead don't be
afraid of the truth talk into your smart phone, show me how tariffs have lowered my taxes""

LetMyPeopleVote

(160,861 posts)
72. Businesses have also stocked up, placing bigger-than-usual import orders ahead of new tariffs taking hold,
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 06:01 PM
Nov 2024

The business community is very worried about trump's tariffs and are already taking actions to protect themselves.



https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-victory-china-tariffs-taxes-inflation/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=645094473

As President-elect Donald Trump readies to return to the Oval Office, U.S. retailers that depend on foreign suppliers are prepared to pass along the cost of his proposed import tariffs to consumers, potentially leading to higher prices for a range of products.

Americans stand to lose between $46 billion and $78 billion in spending power each year on products including apparel, toys, furniture, household appliances, footwear and travel goods due to the new tariffs, the National Retail Federation stated in findings released Monday.

"Retailers rely heavily on imported products and manufacturing components so that they can offer their customers a variety of products at affordable prices," NRF Vice President of Supply Chain and Customs Policy Jonathan Gold said in a statement. "A tariff is a tax paid by the U.S. importer, not a foreign country or the exporter. This tax ultimately comes out of consumers' pockets through higher prices."......

Businesses have also stocked up, placing bigger-than-usual import orders ahead of new tariffs taking hold, as the U.S. imported 11% more Chinese products in July and August than they did during the same two-month period a year ago, according to the Census Bureau.

LetMyPeopleVote

(160,861 posts)
73. The threat of Trump's tariffs is already impacting how businesses operate, steering money away from bonuses and raises
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:22 PM
Nov 2024
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