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(3,600 posts)I'm glad they will be able to mdo so this Christmas. Tighten your belts for the common good, fellas.
Martin68
(24,777 posts)durablend
(8,024 posts)If you need some kind of durable goods (clothing, appliances, fix the house stuff), don't go on a shopping spree and rack up the credit cards but do that NOW before the Trump Tax hits (we need to call it that, none of this "tariffs" stuff that the braindead will shrug off)
lapfog_1
(30,249 posts)tariffs work both ways
travelingthrulife
(1,016 posts)It is just more lies by Democrats from their perspective. These people are not based in reality.
Democrats rescued those farmers. We need to let them drown. No matter how much eggs will cost.
BattleRow
(1,257 posts)roamer65
(37,246 posts)Who cares? I dont.
Fuck em
Yavin4
(36,694 posts)Merry Christmas!
Hotler
(12,416 posts)wryter2000
(47,637 posts)I don't think he understands how they work.
Klarkashton
(2,329 posts)He could get away with a big lie and the dimwits would believe it.
Ray Bruns
(4,759 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,942 posts)Trump is ignorant of many things, because if it doesn't affect him, he doesn't care. But if it is to his advantage, he gets "smart" really fast. Plus, he really had nothing to run on, so he blocked approval of the border bill and invented a way to reduce the debt - tariffs! That way he could justify keeping the large corporate tax cuts - tariffs would foot the bill! Other countries would pay! Americans would pay nothing! Hahahahaha!
90-percent
(6,909 posts)"Stupidity has a certain charm. Ignorance does not " -Frank Zappa
-90% Jimmy
Maraya1969
(23,029 posts)to take the money from their salaries. No, they raise the prices to make up for it.
Attilatheblond
(4,673 posts)And when the peasants squawk, he will tell them 'Biden did it!' Sadly, the flippin morons will believe him.
durablend
(8,024 posts)"WHY HASN'T TRUMP PUSHED ALL THOSE LEVERS AND GOT THOSE PRICES DOWN? HE SAID EVERYTHING WOULD BE FREE!"
Attilatheblond
(4,673 posts)gordianot
(15,539 posts)For the life of me o do not understand why he persists with this myth. This will not result in eliminating income taxes for anyone. Pat time this was attempted in the 1930s i(Smoot Hawley)) . Guess they really like recession and have no fears of depression. Trying to explain this to MAGAs is like talking to a brick wall.
Klarkashton
(2,329 posts)"I want another covid check with trumps name on it!"
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,858 posts)hatrack
(61,231 posts)Oh well!!
onecaliberal
(36,427 posts)IbogaProject
(3,843 posts)Sounds like the Boss and owners were ok w T. If they didnt want this the time to mention this was awhile ago.
Attilatheblond
(4,673 posts)Fools, as far as the eye can see.... fools
brush
(58,159 posts)they just raise the price of their goods to get back the tariff money so we, us, the consumers pay the tariffs, which also raises inflation.
trump's tariffs makes us two-time losers.
AncientOfDays
(209 posts)Prices go up, they sell less - and make less profit.
brush
(58,159 posts)Go to importers like Home Depot, Lowes, department stores, even online shopping...you're paying prices that are set to recoup importers tariff payments. It's just about unavoidable.
Attilatheblond
(4,673 posts)But a businessman who needs to purchase parts to keep things running still has to make the initial outlay of cash and HOPE the products will still sell at the tariff inflated price. It's almost like a farmer who has to buy the seed, the equipment to plant and then harvest while hoping weather and market will make it work in the end. The initial investment has to be made and Trump will put a lot of small businesses out of business, which the fat cats love to see.
brush
(58,159 posts)you'll be helping the importer recoup his tariff expense when you make many purchases. It's not unusual. It's how many businesses operate. Sorry if this is surprising to you.
Attilatheblond
(4,673 posts)have a good life. Bye
brush
(58,159 posts)SamKnause
(13,886 posts)Gullible stupid fucks have gotten us into a fine fucking mess !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I feel no sympathy for them.
I have sympathy for those of us who voted for sanity, experience, personality, policies for the working class, tax incentives for small
businesses, etc.
Fuck them for putting us through this evil shit again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pepsidog
(6,319 posts)Coexist
(26,202 posts)FAFO is upon us
BannonsLiver
(18,282 posts)Absolutely makes my day!
Hope22
(3,150 posts)Never questioning. The rest of us out here ..screaming at the TV.
ancianita
(38,913 posts)Also, as Trump's economy czar, Elon advises management to do what he'd do if/when employees don't like some management decision -- fire them.
Old Crank
(5,022 posts)That he didn't have the discussion earlier.
Who knows if it would have made a difference in the vote but they could see the direct cost to them by voting Trump.
roamer65
(37,246 posts)Its all a conspiracy to all these bags of unwanted DNA.
Old Crank
(5,022 posts)But they will have been warned.
And still lose their bonuses.
roamer65
(37,246 posts)Attilatheblond
(4,673 posts)They do better when We The People are dumbed down.
littlemissmartypants
(26,006 posts)Original Tweet:
Anyone with half a brain would support Donald J. Trump for President.
Reply:
Whereas, people with their brains fully intact are supporting Kamala Harris.
Link to tweet
They're all incredibly idiotic, aren't they?
I'm entering my Supreme Snark Art of War Era and I'm going to pound the "price of eggs" every damn day just for the hell of it.
I plan to mount a war of words to keep myself entertained, my mind sharp and the enemy guessing. Because make no mistake, they and their ignorance are the enemy.
❤️pants
surfered
(3,895 posts)AverageOldGuy
(2,207 posts)It would have made no difference, they would not have believed him and would have written him off as a lib.
And, you are right - they have FAed, now let them FO. Hope the whole lot of them lose their jobs - only to find Project 2025 has abolished unemployment insurance.
NBachers
(18,208 posts)Shipwack
(2,349 posts)I saw no pushback from the MSM about how tariffs really work, and that Trumps explanation was completely incorrect.
Well, maybe someone corrected him once, I think, but he just doubled down on his lie and the questioner didnt pursue it. Probably because economics is boring
roamer65
(37,246 posts)Now lets show them demand destruction.
Norbert
(6,629 posts)And they will believe every word of it. You can't fix stupid.
Sable302b
(26 posts)MAGATs have fun with higher prices and lower pay.
maxsolomon
(35,411 posts)New tariffs in whatever industry this is isn't a done deal.
Just as likely the industry leaders could bend the knee to MFer and he'd forego imposing tariffs.
Aviation Pro
(13,593 posts)I got mine fuckheads, fuck you.
Montauk6
(8,782 posts)CatWoman
(79,767 posts)when Trump pulled the tariff card before, i made a habit of studying the receipt of every purchase to see what the added costs were.
LymphocyteLover
(7,013 posts)Initech
(102,630 posts)"Thank you sir, may I have another?".
LymphocyteLover
(7,013 posts)BoRaGard
(3,323 posts)Initech
(102,630 posts)BoRaGard
(3,323 posts)Bluejeans
(95 posts)I don't know about anyone else, but I was taught in grammar school in NJ about trade tariffs and their impact on the importing country's economy.
I guess a lot of people at that factory in SW PA missed those lessons or didn't pay attention. All I can say to them is "Tough sh**; chew harder!"
Ysabel
(2,080 posts)Can somebody explain Tarriff's for dummies 101 or the like?
- TIA...
Ysabel
(2,080 posts)patphil
(7,164 posts)When the inventory he is buying now runs out, the tariff will still be there, and the cost of his company's products will rise.
If sales drop due to higher prices, the choices will be to either let workers go, or for all the workers to take a pay cut to save jobs. The alternative will be that the company goes under.
This is how a depression starts. It will take a while for the economy to react to the inflationary pressures that a broad-based tariff will generate. Some businesses will thrive, but many others will not. Of course, the workers will be the first to see the effects of a tariff based trade policy.
Add to that the removal of all those immigrants from the labor pool, and we have a recipe for economic collapse.
It seems we have a large number of Americans who are either totally ignorant of how the economy works, or simply don't care about the implications of what Trump plans to do.
Just like the wall that Mexico was going to pay for, Trump is telling folks that the selling nation pays the tariff. It won't cost us a thing, and there will be a tremendous benefit to us all.
There's an old saying, "we get too soon old, and too late smart".
Unfortunately, the second half of this saying may be, at best, a deathbed realization.
Figarosmom
(3,527 posts)At Linnies. And they are owned by coors . The procurement officer was on tv and said they would not be able to afford future needs. Of course coors says they are consolidating .
Emile
(31,010 posts)Lots of people don't understand that tariffs are a tax on the American people. Tariffs and Latino deportation by Herbert Hoover started the Great Depression.
iluvtennis
(20,958 posts)out the hard way that TSF's "policies" are going to hurt their pocketbooks.
KS Toronado
(19,765 posts)Should have been the question we were asking reQublicans with a follow up of..."Go ahead don't be
afraid of the truth talk into your smart phone, show me how tariffs have lowered my taxes""
uponit7771
(92,103 posts)Ysabel
(2,080 posts)nt
LetMyPeopleVote
(155,858 posts)The business community is very worried about trump's tariffs and are already taking actions to protect themselves.
Link to tweet
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-victory-china-tariffs-taxes-inflation/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=645094473
Americans stand to lose between $46 billion and $78 billion in spending power each year on products including apparel, toys, furniture, household appliances, footwear and travel goods due to the new tariffs, the National Retail Federation stated in findings released Monday.
"Retailers rely heavily on imported products and manufacturing components so that they can offer their customers a variety of products at affordable prices," NRF Vice President of Supply Chain and Customs Policy Jonathan Gold said in a statement. "A tariff is a tax paid by the U.S. importer, not a foreign country or the exporter. This tax ultimately comes out of consumers' pockets through higher prices."......
Businesses have also stocked up, placing bigger-than-usual import orders ahead of new tariffs taking hold, as the U.S. imported 11% more Chinese products in July and August than they did during the same two-month period a year ago, according to the Census Bureau.