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harumph

(2,415 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:13 PM Nov 7

This is going to be unpopular, but here we go...

The DNC dropped the ball because it failed to teach possums how to add. It's true! Don't tell me it's too much work.
That makes you a surrender monkey. Trump reached out to possums. Effectively I might add. Joe Rogan has had
several possums on his show and some are complaining that Kamala didn't make her agenda clear enough to the
possums. Should we be suprised that they decided to play dead election day. Dems must expand their appeal!

on edit: (I suppose I should have put in the sarcasm tag)

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This is going to be unpopular, but here we go... (Original Post) harumph Nov 7 OP
Kamala should have went on Rogan Dem4life1234 Nov 7 #1
Wouldn't have made a damn bit of difference durablend Nov 7 #2
Agreed. I don't think it would have. Although, it wouldn't have hurt but I don't think it changes the result In It to Win It Nov 7 #3
Agree. Wouldn't change the outcome. La Coliniere Nov 7 #9
It would not have mattered Keepthesoulalive Nov 7 #16
Rogan's fans weren't going to vote for Harris. TwilightZone Nov 7 #4
They should not let BS go unanswered, GreenWave Nov 7 #5
They don't let BS go unanswered. TwilightZone Nov 7 #7
Where I live we heard non stop about the Wall. Lying Jen Kiggans et alia. GreenWave Nov 7 #15
I agree that she should've gone on Rogan's show. orange jar Nov 7 #6
F' Joe Rogan... It was Social Media microtargeting JCMach1 Nov 7 #8
I wasn't clear about her plans. I mean, the 25K down payment assistance for a house, is that for a town house? tulipsandroses Nov 7 #10
We lost because the incumbent president had a 41% approval rating in exit polls. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 7 #11
Kamala did all that she could do, I believe Jit423 Nov 7 #12
That's actually a brilliant strategy ... make the obvious not so .... ificandream Nov 7 #13
Next time we need to bribe the possums. The ones I feed in the winter like table scraps and dry cat food. Vinca Nov 7 #14
Possums are a lot smarter than trump Keepthesoulalive Nov 7 #17
I doubt her trying to educate the possums would have made a difference. City Lights Nov 7 #18

In It to Win It

(9,801 posts)
3. Agreed. I don't think it would have. Although, it wouldn't have hurt but I don't think it changes the result
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:17 PM
Nov 7

La Coliniere

(1,095 posts)
9. Agree. Wouldn't change the outcome.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:30 PM
Nov 7

All it would do is increase our respect for her being a badass in going into another unfriendly environment and undoubtedly holding her own. Rogan and his bro audience are misogynists to the core. They’d never vote for a woman.

Keepthesoulalive

(825 posts)
16. It would not have mattered
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:59 PM
Nov 7

If you like his podcasts, those issues can’t be fixed by logic or caring.
Leave them be.

GreenWave

(9,526 posts)
5. They should not let BS go unanswered,
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:20 PM
Nov 7

Where I live (2,000 miles from Mexico) the big issue was border! OK explain lard ass had 4 years no wall, Instead he let Bannon steal over $5,000,000 from Maga donation. Trump pardons him. Then breaks a deal in Congress to give him a campaign issue. (For incumbent) Your congress person (fill in blank ) did not reach across the aisle and behaved as a puppet. Nor asked their friends in oil to lower prices or in the food industry either. Do not reward them for doing nothing while you suffer.

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
7. They don't let BS go unanswered.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:28 PM
Nov 7

We just pretend they do for reasons I'll never understand. Perhaps we just like to complain.

The thing is...to tens of millions of people, it doesn't even matter if they're provided with the truth. They still won't believe it. A recent study showed that Trump supporters would believe a false story more *after* they were provided proof that it was false than before they knew it was false.

Brainwashing is an incredibly powerful tool. Deprogramming involves much more than just countering the nonsense. It requires a whole new way of thinking. It's not as simple as many insist it should be.

GreenWave

(9,526 posts)
15. Where I live we heard non stop about the Wall. Lying Jen Kiggans et alia.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:43 PM
Nov 7

For the most part she let alternate attack dogs hit Smassal with bs. On Tubi Kiggans was in every five of six commercial breaks. Nothing from Dems and the same losing strategy Luria deployed: Pro-military (others were too) Nothing about the every day person. And anti-Biden comments. (Biden won this area BTW)

What we need to do is find out where those magas are spewing their venom and plan the counterattack. Not let the venom spread.

RW religious BS "leaders" are telling their flocks it is sinful not to vote Republican. see for example the documentary Bad Faith.

orange jar

(878 posts)
6. I agree that she should've gone on Rogan's show.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:25 PM
Nov 7

Not to win over his viewers, because let's be honest — most Rogan fans are right-leaning libertarians who were already either going to vote for Trump or not vote at all.

However, her interview would have dispelled concerns (whether they're unjust or not) that she can't do long, unscripted interviews because of [insert perceived shortcoming here]. There's always a chance that it could have convinced some non-Rogan fans to watch it out of curiosity and feel less disconnected to her.

JCMach1

(28,162 posts)
8. F' Joe Rogan... It was Social Media microtargeting
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:29 PM
Nov 7

That kept millions of people home .

It's a hell of a lot easier to keep people's butt on the couch than to get them to vote.

Plus, we need to triage all the purge numbers from across the country. I am sure the number touches over 1M.

tulipsandroses

(6,280 posts)
10. I wasn't clear about her plans. I mean, the 25K down payment assistance for a house, is that for a town house?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:31 PM
Nov 7

A ranch? Split level? Tiny home?
I need more information dammit!

DemocratSinceBirth

(100,361 posts)
11. We lost because the incumbent president had a 41% approval rating in exit polls.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:32 PM
Nov 7

It wasn't his fault. No candidate of an incumbent political party with that low an approval rating in exit polls has ever won. Stevenson lost, Humphrey lost, McCain lost, Carter lost, and Trump lost.

Jit423

(456 posts)
12. Kamala did all that she could do, I believe
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:38 PM
Nov 7

She worked her butt off. In three months she did more meeting, greeting, explaining, hugging, holding, talking, and raising spirits than Trump has done in eight years. She looked tired and drained in her final concession speech to us. She looked tired but still fierce. She still looks and talks like a fighter. We haven't seen the last of her. My greatest hope is to see her on the SCOTUS. I know, I know Trump and the GOP will be in Judicial power for the next four years and it will hard as hell to get any of his appointments off the bench. I hope Biden has a slew of bench nominees ready to seat now before he leaves office.

I also hope he now pardon's Hunter. When he declared he wouldn't, he was basing that on his belief in a fair and just Judicial system. We all know it won't be one Trump takes the reins. And if there is any way Joe can pre-emptively protect his staff and anyone else from his administration who may be on Trump's hit list, he should use the royal powers extended to the President by the SCOTUS to do so.

Look at the numbers before making any judgements and pointing fingers. The numbers of who voted and who did not and how they voted will surprise many here. It shocked me.

It is now up to us to begin the resistance fearlessly.

THANK YOU, KAMALA HARRIS, FOR TAKING THE RISK AND GIVING US YOUR ALL!

ificandream

(10,834 posts)
13. That's actually a brilliant strategy ... make the obvious not so ....
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:41 PM
Nov 7

The thing was Dems explained Trump's platform in very basic terms. The problem was the possums didn't care. Trump always talked to the lowest denominational human beings. It's pretty obvious when you saw his supporters. Well, they'll find out now what it was really all about.

Vinca

(51,298 posts)
14. Next time we need to bribe the possums. The ones I feed in the winter like table scraps and dry cat food.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:43 PM
Nov 7

City Lights

(25,442 posts)
18. I doubt her trying to educate the possums would have made a difference.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:14 PM
Nov 7

They were always in the Dotard camp.

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