the target of MAGA as ALL women are.

I have had the worst week of my life--including directly saving lives in my ER of those who declared that my body now belongs to THEM with their MAGA hats and who now think they have license to disrespect me every hour of the day.

So now, I get to see THIS? Thanks, DonCoquixote, very much. NOT. And don't you dare patronize me further by telling me to "just watch the video and that I will undoubtedly agree with her." Well, I might on many issues, but the subject title alone is enough to make me want to throw something through my screen.

DONQUIXOTE, PLEASE STOP!!!

White women continue to vote for Trump. Not a huge majority, but a majority.

Defending it is incomprehensible, wryter2000 and not merely insensitive.

I guess you can take offense that someone posted it here but not that the woman made the video.

this call-out of a group on DU isitself indefensible.

2:26 seconds it takes a very different turn.

What I do agree with in the video - Blue Bracelets and Womens' Marches are worthless. Didn't do a damn thing the last time.

If that group is going to lead the Resistance - they need to do something else.

Or anyone else.

I put that patronizing squarely on the OP - who chose to focus on taking a pot shot at Liberal and Progressive Women.

But in all black spaces (Sunday dinner at my house yesterday) - the women - including myself -

Were vocal at our anger about ONE selfish self-serving community who thinks I'm going to come to their defense when Trump comes for them.

Black women are not here for that. Uh uh no way. Not gonna do it.

And I'd only support a woman's march if it is going to be as brutal and chaotic as January 6th.

ETA - Angela Davis wouldn't play nice if she was a young woman today. She simply wouldn't. And neither would Shirley Chisholm or Harriet.

and promulgating divisive misogynistic blame on this forum. SHAME ON YOU!

You won't let a black woman have an opinion that differs from yours.

Shame on you.

So now you are determined to divide based on gender AND race TOO as the OP clearly did for those who are ALL under attack? Really? ALL women. ALL. Regardless of race, ethnicity, or status (while some don't realize that- who were ignorant enough to throw away their vote or chance to do so).

You are accusing me of being a mysoginist who hates white women and wants to divide us. "Shame on you is really demeaning."

I've given you so many chances over the years. No more.

the point you were trying to make. I am sorry for that misunderstanding. I see now that your were not trying to attack others as some on this thread clearly are.

But - I won't trust a blue bracelet. I could see Magats using one of their women to lure us - so the men can harm us.

I no longer believe that people are generally good. I just don't.

never confused.

everyone can read the OP.

As far as I can tell, Harris did better with white women as a group than Biden did. So clearly white women as a group is not the reason that Harris lost the election.

Biden received higher percentage of white women votes than kamala. period.

NT

I didn’t feel at all maligned. I only felt my heart expanding to meet her where she is.

Youtube has given her this space. OP for whatever reason decided to post it here.
I am not sure what your race is, but if it is white, don't bother to meet her where she is, she clearly says you are not welcome.

I’m half Norwegian and half Mexican, and I don’t expect her to make me feel welcome.

It offends me that she makes accusations and refuses to hear (read) comments from those she accuses.
There were plenty of white women who supported Harris - yet she shut them down. Why bring that here when all of the white women who post here supported Harris.

expecting, hoping White Women in general would vote better in this election.

Sheesh!
I don't approve of videos that insult me and then cut off communication.

Please tell me why Black women were betrayed more than white women who voted for Harris.
Yes, racists voted for Trump, but all white women aren't racists.

but Black Women have a an extra layer of experience starting from nasty to deadly with either certain White citizens, LOEs, or government institutions blanketly or individual officials within.

As I said I'm guessing the Black Woman in that vid felt that more White Women would vote for Kamala. Didn't happen! 😑😔🤬

but as to the topic of this thread, White women were told to shut up.

I worked in Social services as a case manager for a welfare to work type program, I know what difficulties the Black community endures.

This is a separate issue - and I don't appreciate being told to shut up.

expression of betrayal pain on a blanket level.

She may remain inconsolable, she may change her mind later.

I think we all feel that pain.
Discrimination against minorities is a separate issue.

Why would that woman alienate women who supported Harris?
Personally, I supported Harris because she was the best candidate with the best platform ... gender and color were not a factor.

alright, maaaaybe I didn't say "betrayed" somewhere. So, yeah, that too.

And distraught over all, still in partial disbelief.

Or maybe unconsciously I thought non college white women would still go more for drumphf. Idk.
Yes, I know somewell educateed women , and men support fascists

I was just trying to make a point.

I felt that the woman in the video wasn't understanding that, and in her fury at the situation lashed out at women who are her allies....even though they may happen to be white.

I also think that it was poor judgement to post that particular video here at DU.

As an aside: I don't personally go for the blue bracelet thing, nor did I go for the pussy hat thing. Such demonstrations may help a person to feel better, but are not very effective in changing minds or policy.
I do think that I will get more involved in my local League of Women Voters though. Where I live, they trend Blue.

blue bracelets, highly unlikely for me.

If I'd had been a fast knitter (oh, I am so not!😄 ) might have made hat.

When I'd bet that most of us are feeling pain.
How did the OP think that would help, except to rub salt in our very fresh wounds?

Link to tweet

that the election was solely about the issues of Black people or of Black women.

It is divisive because she is race blaming. And that is unacceptable on DU. Does not matter thst she is not directly addressing DU. It is posted on DU.

Black women, White women, Latina women, Native women, Asian women are all experiencing the devastating risk of their health and lives, with some of us dying and others horribly traumatized by nearly dying before being treated.

Aside from women's issues, all Americans, male and female, will suffer from President Felon's fascist regime. All Americans now risk losing health insurance and health care, daily life-saving meds, housing due to higher costs of everything. Immigrants risk detainment in prison camps. People who worked hard to win the election face retaliation with investigations, charges, possible imprisonment.

Staying together to look after each other is our best hope. There is no place for such division among us.

is finding out what caused the division. There is a hole that the gop has exploited, and we need to patch it. Yes, I know many women of a light skin did vote for harris, and I appreciate them. But I am sure these same women will se that their friend voted the other way, and did not have the guts to own what they did. I want us to stay together, but as in any relationship, we need to honestly see where we are, and how we got here.

I'd be shocked.
I try to pick my white friends carefully since I was young.

how we got here. She has assumed that all White women are responsible for the outcome because she has lumped all White women into one group.

And yet, we know that Latino support for Trump, especially among Latino men, increased in this election. We also know that there was voter suppression in the form of removing eligible voters from the rolls. There were bomb threats at some locations. Yes, those sites reopened after being checked, but how many people remained at those polls to vote after the site was cleared? How many people heard of the threat and stayed away?

Why did Harris get less support among Black voters than Biden did? Did White women cause that?

I can understand anger over the White women who voted for Trump. Black people are not the only ones who are angry about the outcome. Extending anger to include White women who voted for Harris is divisive and does not an answer the question of how we got here. It does not even ask the question.

Would she now reject unity in resisting the the racist, misogynistic government that is looming over all of us and reject unity in helping the people who will be most harmed by it?

and I AM a Latino man, although I have ceased to find any comfort or even identity as they have willingly infested themselves with the GOP parasite. I can admit this poster does lack subtlety, but questions remain. I do not to be here 2028 and find ourselves in the same spot again, where the work we all do is undermined by people who will tell us they hate trump, but then they go into the booth.

Yes, there DOES need to be an examination of vote tampering, should have been since 2008.
Yes, there DOES and I mean DOES need to be an investigation of this election where Black districts in Georgia were threated with BOMBS! We can bet the FBI won't get on that because they are too busy wondering when Trump will fire them.

But we do need a plan of consistent, persistent action to make sure we are not in this again. Can it mean that you have some unpleasant conversations with friends and family? I know from experience that it does.

and yes, I do appreciate the many women , white and black, and yellow and all shades beyond and between that did vote for Harris , that worked to get her on. All I am saying is that whatever we are doing, the GOP has found a crack in the ramparts, which we need to fix, and note, I do say we, because whatever acrimony was caused by a tiktok video, we will need to. To quote Ben Franklin, "we must all hang together, or we will all hang separetely." All I want is to work stop the Gallows from being prepped.

Of course women over all will suffer. Along with every other vunerable group of people, and those in intersecting groups you've mentioned!

Imho, her pain is important to hear, even while being uncomfortable.
She may change in time.

at an entire demographic. I am directing my feeling of betrayal at Trump voters. I am not directing it at Harris voters who fall into the demographic.

Now more than ever we need to be united in resisting the coming racist, misogynistic government and in helping each other get through it. Creating division at this time aids them in dividing and conquering.

Wrong crowd to be directing her malice toward. This is helping nothing.

Blue bracelets. Yes, it's that simple.

To draw us close so they can grab black women and lynch us?

Considering the worst racists' track records, and what drumphf turned over; your fear is not unfounded. Unfortunately!

So there's that.

They don't realize the isolation that many of us find us in. And, quite frankly, I missed the part where blue bracelets only represented support for black people. A first step for many of us in Red counties, is just to begin to make eye contact. Maybe we'll be ready to organize by the next election.

I see it as odd to attack white women who for voted for Kamala and are now doing things like wearing blue bracelets. People doing that seem genuine to me.

I think the problem is that people are taking out their frustrations on their own allies, because we're truly confused by what happened. None of it makes sense. Frankly, where I live, no one seems to cross race or culture lines. So no one's opinions are going to affect me. When the Democratic party can figure out how to bridge that gap in Florida, they will be closer to winning elections.

skin tone, not so much.

Blue bracelet tattoos, anyone?

At least 80% of them will identify with the Democratic party. For Latina Americans, the percentage is much lower, and because of all the fear that exists in the world, they will be less inclined to be as friendly as they once were.

And white women? Forget it. I wouldn't venture there unless there was a clear way to identify them.

Really?

Which is HUGE.

As a bi-cultured American, I understand both cultures, but I have no feeling of sisterhood or comradery from either.

My point is that white women need to SDSFU when a black woman is telling them how hurt or angry she/they are. All women are discriminated against, but black women have suffered far more and far longer than we (white woman here) have suffered.

own purposes.

Look, I fully understand that it's impossible to say words of sympathy to black Americans because we can never understand what they've been through and we will always fall short. Though this is what causes hindrances to developing strong relationships, the reality is that unless we're neighbors and can have opportunities to build bonds of trust, there isn't much more we can do, besides quietly listen.

Listening is one thing. We can do that. Unless they come out and tell us what action would actually be effective, what else can we do but listen? On the other hand, if they're claiming that the blue bracelets are ineffective, which I would agree, I would also claim that they're harmless. Or, as I pointed out, it might help Dem women identify each other and make efforts to get to know each other.

I guess if we (white women) would have shown up in the polls like our lives depended on it, that would have been a good action and a good 1st step to bridging our cultures. I respect her anger and I don't blame her one bit. I know that I am angry as hell and find myself trusting everyone a little less.

more white women would have voted against drumphf in particular bc of increasingly threats against choice.

We're all frustrated. Kamala Harris was a great candidate. She would have made a phenomenal president.

Not sure if you were commenting to me exactly, but, I didn't want to leave you without a "hi" back at you.

column it must feel dispiriting at times.

I have friends, and acquaintences in TX, and FL that are surrounded by drumphers.

So it rings hollow to me.

The other day someone from a Latina Facebook site I belong to tried to befriend me. Her name was Anglo, and she had gone to school in a private religious high school in Texas. And her facebook page was sparse.

Do you think I friended her? Or declined her?

The bracelets are supposed to indicate supporting Harris.

Not taking a stand on them one way or another.

Donald Trump has won the majority of white women voters for the third straight time.

Even after destroying abortion rights, even after a judge went to painstaking lengths to clarify that Trump raped E. Jean Carroll, and even as the Harris campaign targeted the imaginary “silent majority” of women hiding their political views from their husbands, 52 percent of white American women showed us who they are: Trump supporters.

So this one group (white women) is the group we have actually improved with, unlike many other groups.

Biden won higher percentage of white women votes than Harris

From an idiot trying to get likes etc on yt. Don’t watch it. 🤗

I'm leaning toward taking it off.

What next? I shudder to think what misogyny will be allowed on DU next?

And would ask "is it elmotime?" kinda became a family phrase.

NT

and I really blamed Latino men who I have previously screamed , but I am not going to patronize black women who have fought like hell, only to go WTF?