What a ridiculous and callous statement.

Hope that makes you feel better.

they likely will pay a terrible price...nothing we can do.

It was the typical suck up that he will ignore. Why do ppl always think it will be different for them?

Israeli defense minister said just yesterday, it’s time to annex a large part of the West Bank. Gaza might just as well be a parking lot. FAFO…very sad that once again some stupid leader of the pack, safely tucked away and will suffer no harm makes life and death decisions for the little ppl and the kids.

He will be busy developing Gaza once the Palestinians are swept away. All of Uncle Bibi's dreams are coming true.

It's true.

🤣🤣🤣

There's a difference between useful vigor and useless vigor, fighting and flailing.

Wisdom is knowing the difference between the two. Agency is understanding that choice is possible between them.

The week long rantings of "Which minorities wronged us?" and "Adult Socialization: How to Reject It" need to come to a close now. There's just too much shit to do, and none of this is helpful. It's counterproductive at best.

At best.

I wanna be mad for bit. I want to express my outrage at people doing stupid things despite many warning them that it was stupid. Maybe I'll GAF about them later, but for right now, I see them stading at the edge of a disaster they helped create and i WANT to express my anger and frustration.

Maybe you're "bigger" than that. Good for you. I still FAR too pissed off. Real people will be hurt. Real people are ALREADY hurt.

And I don't see how putting minorities on blast accomplishes it (particularly when white people do it).

It's selfish indulgence that turns people off.

But as long as everyone feels better, I guess. That's the important bit. Me.

These folks ignored the facts to follow their desire to stick it to the Dems. Short of grovelling to them, what do you suggest?

How often do I need to accept being treated with disdain by ignorant people?

Instead of assuming what they think, putting them in boxes, and then talking over and past them when they tell you their concerns.

That's like the easiest step possible. But if this past week is an indication, that simple step is going to be very difficult for people to manage.

Even your reply makes wild assumptions based on a worldview that just got rejected at the ballot box. They "ignored facts". People always do. It's the human condition. But did some people simply prioritize differently? And did we ignore facts? Because I know lots of people who just pretended crippling cost of living increases weren't a thing that mattered much. They're still arguing about it. "Desire to stick it to the Dems" So that was all of them? Half the country just went, "I'm doing this to spite you." Because that sounds like your characterization based on bias instead of objective perception of behavior. "Short of groveling to them" - Talking to people is groveling in your view. Don't you think that's a bit revealing? That you can't see a mutual back and forth conversation, only submission and dominance in exchanges with people? "Treated by disdain" - some people disdain us. There's no talking around that. But all of them? There are no people who simply made choices they deemed part of their self-interest? It's just all about me personally? "You did this because you hate me!" Isn't this attitude a bit narcissistic? In my experience, most people aren't even thinking about me much less making major choices based on it. A few will. There's always a few. But the world in general doesn't run based on it.

The lens through which these attitude are expressed strikes me as a very self-centered one. How I feel, how this affects me, how my pride or my self-perception will be affected if I have to, you know, talk to people.

Egos have gotten in the way of too much. And now we're "I have a right to all my rage!" Well, of course people have a right to their feelings.

But this stuff scares off the normies. As in, "I will cross the street to avoid that person" levels of off-putting.

Ya know what... good luck. You still think we're living in a world where people are making rational decisions. We are not.

Apparently, they don't need to listen to US, just us to them.

We turned this election into a battle of “he’s a threat to democracy” vs “eggs are expensive.”

It turns out that slightly more people care about eggs.

I’m an outlier. My household income went up tremendously during the Biden years, because my wife and I both stumbled into really good new jobs. But even in that circumstance, it seems like half our conversations have been about price increases. Everything from cereal to a car to a new sewer line.

And on top of that, Jackson County, Missouri doubled our property taxes without warning.

I chose threat to democracy but I can’t tell anyone who chose eggs that they are stupid.

...it's that they refuse to look at the realities that caused the inflation. Instead of learning the facts, they chose to listen to the lying con artist. THAT's what makes them stupid!

those who have much to lose by supporting Trump. Thus at this point, there is nothing I can do...and really can't care. It was clear what Trump would do. They fooled themselves. Gaza's only hope was Harris's election and many didn't or refused to understand that.

How does one even betray a political party? It’s a mechanism for pushing candidates and turning ideas into policy. That’s it. It’s a machine.

It’s like saying “my refrigerator has betrayed me yet again.”

We shouldn’t yell at people who “betrayed” the machine. We should ask, “what is wrong with the machine that people don’t like it/trust it/want to use it?”

...it's the propaganda! Look at history. It's not the first time propaganda has been used to influence our nation, but it's the first time a major political party decided to use it against us.

They chose enmity and they will have it seven time over.

They have always been allies of their own convenience but when there are hard times and struggles they are near white and far right and the only back they provide is one turned.

Now the political suicide bombers have taken dead aim at democracy looking us in the eye, well now they need to blow up too, not sneak away from the explosion to issue more bellicose edicts and to feign the possibilty of solidarity if they are obeyed.

Further, it doesn't matter because there is no power left anyway.

Not likely. I am sure there will some other wrong they will be championing. We need a better
constituency in this party. Those who don't think The GOP is ever the same as us and never never better.

Voting for T was a vote for 2025….which is a step closer to women and minorities losing the right to vote! This was on the line but gone now. With controllers out here telling people what they can and can not voice, we need to take a second look at what is actually being said here.

With people that want to see the country burn? Intended or not, that is where we are now. Once he is in office, all it will take is one spark. He will bring the hammer down, with immunity, mind you.

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What I've discovered is that my anger is fuel, is focus, is clarification, is useful, is power, and it keeps me moving forward.

And if it helps me and the family and friends I love survive the next four years of Survivor White House, so much the better.

Go find some second-graders you can cluck your tongue at.

And if clucking is heard, well . . .

I have no desire to understand those who caused this...

Why is it our responsibility to be taught to right the wrong...if we can...that we didn't cause. I just don't see it.

world consequneces...how many women have died because of what Jill Stein did in 16?

We were near the Canadian border. There are consequences to electing bad people. I am sorry that many Palestinians will suffer now under Trump...more for those who didn't vote for Trump than those who did...but they should have known...we should have known as a people.How many women have died because of what Jill Stein did in 16? I have to protect those I love in this shit storm. I can't help those who refused to see the threat even when warned.

I’m not supporting or backing anyone who doesn’t support me. Life is too short to be a permanent doormat.

They can save themselves from Trump and his policies.

If they didn't celebrate on October 7, I would've found some sympathy inside me.

they betrayed themselves.

comes to terms on their own, or not. While I am a get to work get off the mat type, my husband is not. I would never think of belittling or berating him.

...because if you don't, I don't see it's your call to decide when someone else's rage is enough. And even if you do have a to do list, shouldn't you be working on that instead of taking someone else's inventory?

Then, they take the credit for everything good, and any thing, even minor they blame the Dems. It’s a total winning strategy for them an a total loser for us.

To rectify any codependent relationship one has to step back, let them fall flat and by all means DO NOT pick them back up! Harsh? No not really. It’s only solution

And when they realize that sticking it to the Democrats has actual consequences, and they come looking for help, they'll be surprised that people like you and me are too busy trying to protect the people in our lives who are vulnerable to worry about their self-own.

I'm just sorry for our Arab-American allies that didn't support this stupidity.

I warned them. I have a Lesbian daughter who was planning to marry her girlfriend. I love them both. They were about to marry but have decided to wait and see how it plays out. I have another relative who married a trans man...they are having a baby...used artificial insemination. And they are terrified. I feel sorrow for them. Both my daughter and my daughter-in -law will likely tie their tubes...both wanted more kids. So fuck those who did this to us. We will all suffer for what they did.

Where I talk about my daughters' non-binary friend who died on election night, possibly by suicide, or accidental death due to over-self-medication.

Like you, I take that very personally.

your post. It was a good one...I felt such sorrow at what happened to your friend.

And will further and more quickly seal the demise of democracy

it had nothing to do with Gaza or middle east.

And they are happy with their votes.

Muslim Arab Americans view women and LGBTQ the same way Christian nationalists do.

Only for some dumb reason it’s not ok to say that.

We can try to get votes but just like others such as white men and evangelical Christians there is a point where we know our limits and move on and try to get support where we realistically can.

Anyone paying attention to those protesting against jgbt literature in schools and drag queens and similar things would easily have seen a large number if them were Muslim. Much more than their percentage of the population.

Many come from societies where women have zero rights & have to walk behind their husbands and hide behind a veil or Hijab or Burqa etc

in Hamtramck? We supported them and they’d betray us like by banning Pride?

A real basic class in religion 101 would have told them Christians weren’t the only ones who would ban Pride. But they were too busy being open minded.

For 19-year-old Yemeni American Ali Aljahmi, a member of the family which owns Sheeba, a popular Yemeni restaurant in Dearborn, Trump’s victory could mark a new era in the Middle East: “I met Mr. Trump briefly along with his team. … They promised to stop the genocide [in] Gaza and what’s happening in Lebanon. Trump wants peace,” Aljahmi said.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/13/michigan-dearborn-trump-harris-arab-gaza-israel-vote/

But it doesn't mean we should care any less about stopping what's happening in Gaza to innocent civilians. Bibi with Trump's backing is not going to stop in Gaza until it's basically inhabitable and everyone there is either dead or forced to leave.

They're now going forward with anexing land in the West Bank too. It's just a matter of time before Bibi starts to do to the West Bank what he's done to gaza.

We may very well end up with European war. Putin wants more than Ukraine.

Maybe Canada, too.

...then Jerrod will use the land to develop a community of resorts. THAT's what they voted for.

And they actually believe that Trump will be good for palestinians ?

By letting his BFF Bibi wipe every Palestinian from Gaza, Lebanon, and the West Bank.

Peace is not the absence of war.

Bishara Bahbah, founder of Arab Americans for Trump, explained to Middle East Eye why nearly 50% of Dearborn residents, in the largest majority Arab-American city in the United States, overwhelmingly supported Donald Trump. He highlighted Trump’s efforts to engage with Arab and Muslim leaders across the US.

Bahbah expressed his frustration with the Democratic Party and the Biden-Harris administration’s unwillingness to address his community’s concerns, which ultimately led him to establish Arab Americans for Trump.


@legalizemolly2771
6 days ago
My God Trump can hypnotize anyone it’s unbelievable
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@oonaghanderson6993
6 days ago
His first move was a muslim ban last time.
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@AntonChigurh989
6 days ago
This dude said trump is a man of his word, everything we've seen over the past 9 years says other wise. Book mark this vid and refer back too it in a years time.

@malekzin4788
6 days ago
Come back here in six months and we’ll see how it goes.
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@fuadashraf870
6 days ago
He will make the sufferings my Brother and Sisters in Gaza worse.
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@markrobinowitz8473
6 days ago
I hope they won't take too long to realize they've helped make it even worse. Jared Kushner, Donald's son in law, says he sees the destroyed Gaza as a great real estate opportunity. Donald doesn't support a two state solution, he supports Netanyahu. Visiting Dearborn is pandering. I wish Harris had been better - I'm an independent - but this is insane.

@marshabowers3612
6 days ago
Donald Trump does not care about Palestinians or Arab Americans. Good luck with that. I can understand not voting for Harris, but I don’t understand voting for Trump.

@DKLGalactus5
6 days ago
The pill you'll swallow will be bitter. When Jered buys up that Gaza water front, the pill will burn your tongue and your words.

@freeswan09
6 days ago
What values? Follow the money.

@eh2254
6 days ago
Trump? A man of his word?

Best of luck with that…

@itrapzii3311
6 days ago
That’s the sad reality of American democracy.
Politicians know what people want but still do the bidding for big donors.
This Gaza war is a perfect example of how immoral they can be just for money.

@angelastef3718
6 days ago
You are living on another planet. Did you forget what he did in the Golan Heigths and moved the US embassy to Jerusalem.

@asadsheikh197
6 days ago
What planet is this guy on. Planet bullshit.

@marleyplumb4562
6 days ago
Kamala may not have listened to you. However, Trump will actively silence you.

@nadeemmustafa6450
6 days ago
Let's see what Trump will do for PALESTINIANS 😔😔😔

@BurroGirl
6 days ago
Do Arab Americans think trump is going to be on their side???????

The epitome of people voting against their own interests. Has anyone heard what Mike Huckabee, Trump's new Ambassador to Israel has said about palestinians ?

Laeopards getting fat?

Never heard that before 🤔

it's ok to click on:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Leopards%20Ate%20My%20Face

WTAF!!! Talk about willful ignorance. I wonder how long it will take him to realize he’s been had.

I don't understand the references to "leopards" and "leopards eating faces" that I keep seeing. Would someone please explain?

Thanks for the explanation.

the response was "They are just protesting during the primaries, they'll return in the GE"

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Because I fail to see it.

of their actions as they chose the greater of two evils.

We assumed they were bluffing.

Good day.

They were not happy with either side but knew Republicans would be worse.

To me it was clear Harris was going to be the best for Israel and the Palestinians

What they are saying though is that the people who voted for Trump or voted third-party made their intentions known a long time ago and everybody pretended it would be no big deal. Well it is a big deal now and honestly, I don’t give a shit what happens to them. They they had no problem helping to throw women and LGBTQ under the bus so I will not waste one second worrying about them when that bus comes and runs them over too.

The problem is not how these people voted. They had approximately zero effect on the outcome.

Perhaps essentially unlimited material support for what arab americans perceive as a genocide of their people had something to do with how they voted?

Currently being the key word here.

And I have many Muslim friends. So I'll say this as clearly as I can: Anyone who voted for Trump, regardless of religion, is at best a fool and at worst aiding and abetting the takeover of the United States by neo-Nazis and a man who banned Muslims in his first go-around in the White House.

Single-issue voters are naive in normal times, but these are the most abnormal of times, so single-issue voting is incrementally more naive now.

Voting for Trump, for any reason, was one of the worst mistakes anyone could ever make. And you don't have to believe me. Just wait and see. It won't take long.

Of course, if we ever see power again, Democrats should try to do the right things for everyone. But their issues should not be prioritized over those of voter blocs who do show up for the party.

After a horrific terrorist attack.

And things are about to get exponentially worse for Gaza... Not to mention Lebanon and eventually Iran.

Make no mistake on the Iran front.

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