interesting. It relates to the way a flag would appear on a pole as carried by a cavalry soldier charging forward. It signifies always advancing and never retreating.
"According to United States Army regulations, “The full-color US flag cloth replica is worn so that the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right.” The flag must always be positioned to look like it is flying forward"

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)

2. I think that the Celtic cross which is Irish for his heritage I think.

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:51 AM

Nov 13

Ocelot II

(120,815 posts)

6. Hegseth isn't an Irish name, it's Scandinavian - Danish or Norwegian.

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:54 AM

Nov 13

At least he's of solid Aryan stock.

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)

9. I can't imagine if that was some negative cross, he'd advertise it in that way.

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:58 AM

Nov 13

Plus the military would never allow that and he would have been kicked out for sure.

hlthe2b

(106,330 posts)

13. His Nat. Guard orders during the Biden administration were revoked over it, apparently. See article I posted earlier.

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:01 AM

Nov 13

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)

16. I did read it. That's interesting and I wonder if trump will revoke his position.

Reply to hlthe2b (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:03 AM

Nov 13

He might if this gets attention.

Ocelot II

(120,815 posts)

32. Revoke it? Hell, no! He'll probably make him go shirtless to show off his tats.

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:41 AM

Nov 13

yardwork

(64,321 posts)

15. Those are white nationalist crosses.

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:02 AM

Nov 13

Edited to add that the article at the link confirms this:

In 2021, Pete Hegseth was part of the Minnesota National Guard and was called to Washington, D.C., to offer security to Joe Biden for his presidential inauguration. However, his orders were revoked reportedly due to his tattoo, which was allegedly deemed as a symbol of White/ Christian nationalism.

Polybius

(17,798 posts)

38. He-Man had that same cross

Reply to yardwork (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 12:41 PM

Nov 13

dpibel

(3,318 posts)

54. I'm thinking you could maybe spot a subtle difference

Reply to Polybius (Reply #38)

Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:05 AM

Thursday

To your eye, the cross you've posted is the same as the one on Hegseth in the OP?

I believe that's pretty creative!

(Helpful hint: How many graphical elements are present on He-Man and how many on Hegseth?)

Or is it just a kind of plus sign thing is all the same, no matter how presented?

Polybius

(17,798 posts)

55. It was a joke

Reply to dpibel (Reply #54)

Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:09 AM

Thursday

dpibel

(3,318 posts)

56. Ah. Of course! I think I've heard that elsewhere!

Reply to Polybius (Reply #55)

Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:10 AM

Thursday

Polybius

(17,798 posts)

57. Oh, it gets around fast

Reply to dpibel (Reply #56)

Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:12 AM

Thursday

whathehell

(29,783 posts)

27. Ethnicity is determined by both parents

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:29 AM

Nov 13

not just the father whose name one generally bears.

Ocelot II

(120,815 posts)

31. Hegseth is Norwegian on both sides of his family.

Reply to whathehell (Reply #27)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:36 AM

Nov 13

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Hegseth

whathehell

(29,783 posts)

33. Okay, got it.

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:44 AM

Nov 13

hlthe2b

(106,330 posts)

10. Deus Vult and the rest of Hegseth's tattoos of Christian Nationalism

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:59 AM

Nov 13

What does ‘Deus Vult’ mean? Pete Hegseth tattoo controversy explored in wake of nomination as Trump's Defense Secretary
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/what-deus-vult-mean-pete-hegseth-tattoo-controversy-explored-wake-nomination-trump-s-defense-secretary

"I've got Deus Vult -- God Wills It -- which was the cry of the Crusaders, on my bicep... My entire pec is a Jerusalem cross. Israel, Christianity, and my faith are things I care deeply about," he added.
All you need to know about Pete Hegseth’s tattoo drama

“My orders were revoked to guard the Biden inauguration. Jerusalem Cross tattoo, which is just a Christian symbol. This is the one, this right here is what got be disinvited. I never had orders revoked before,” he shared.“Listen, it’s a standard deal. You remember after January 6th everyone was in Washington D.C., like Nancy Pelosi had the parking garages full of National Guardsmen. My commander called me tepidly a day before and said, ‘Major, you can just stand down. We don’t need you. We’re good.’”

The full article gives a lot of context but won't let me cut and paste. Link above.

yardwork

(64,321 posts)

12. That's not the Celtic cross.

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:00 AM

Nov 13

It's the Nazi cross. Google Nazi insignia.

The Celtic cross isn't square.

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)

14. Down thread it says the Jerusalem cross.

Reply to yardwork (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:01 AM

Nov 13

yardwork

(64,321 posts)

18. What is a Jerusalem cross?

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:04 AM

Nov 13

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,058 posts)

22. From the Crusades....The Cross of the Christian forces.

Reply to yardwork (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:08 AM

Nov 13

Watch the Ridley Scott classic...KINGDOM of HEAVEN with Orlando Bloom. It's there.

?w=584

yardwork

(64,321 posts)

23. Got it! The Nazi cross had its roots in that.

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:19 AM

Nov 13

So, this guy believes that Christians need to defeat both the Muslims and the Jews. And, based on some of his other tattoos, it sounds like he might believe in End Times. From the Book of Revelation, he wants to hasten an apocalypse in the Middle East, which will lead to Christ's resurrection and the end of the world, when the godly Christians will go to paradise and everyone else will go to hell.

Trump just put a man in charge of our military who wants to cause an apocalypse that will bring about the end of the world.

soandso

(1,155 posts)

41. Certainly Christian

Reply to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 02:22 PM

Nov 13

and definitely warrior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_cross

haele

(13,520 posts)

29. The Jerusalem Cross is on his right pec.

Reply to yardwork (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:31 AM

Nov 13

The cross on his right bicep is Nazi, not a Celtic cross.
Deus Vult is used by Christian Nationalists.
Because, hello - Crusaders killing Muslims (and Jews along with the wrong sort of Christian Arabs) to claim the Holy Land for European Christians?

I'd be interested to hear what the troops under him have to say about him and his attitude to others. I'm pretty sure he treated them like NPCs.

Haele

D. Spaulding

(18 posts)

36. I don't think it's a Celtic cross

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:49 AM

Nov 13

It's called a Jerusalem cross, if I'm not mistaken. Crusaders often bore it

obamanut2012

(27,802 posts)

46. That isn't a Celtioc cross

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:08 PM

Nov 13

Jit423

(276 posts)

49. I have Irish heritage and this insults me.

Reply to jimfields33 (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:15 PM

Nov 13

hlthe2b

(106,330 posts)

4. Most certainly. Dangerously indoctrinated.

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:52 AM

Nov 13

Emile

(29,785 posts)

5. Looks fascist

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:53 AM

Nov 13

peregrinus

(193 posts)

7. he's wearing a target

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:54 AM

Nov 13

over his vital organs

Kid Berwyn

(17,983 posts)

8. Truth in advertising.

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:57 AM

Nov 13

To me, he’s obviously another insane NAZI bastard, unqualified, unable and unsuited to serve as SECDEF.

Mosby

(17,453 posts)

11. Whats the hebrew word? Anyone know?

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:59 AM

Nov 13

I think I figured it out, it's hebrew for yeshua (Jesus real name, Yeshua ben Yoseph v'Miriam).

yardwork

(64,321 posts)

19. Sounds like he's an End Timer.

Reply to Mosby (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:05 AM

Nov 13

Mossfern

(3,172 posts)

42. There were some letters obscured

Reply to Mosby (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 02:34 PM

Nov 13

I recognized the yod and shin - will go back ad look.
eta: next letter is resh.... "I-S-R ..."

Israel?

Mosby

(17,453 posts)

44. The first vowel threw me. Its supposed to be a pause.

Reply to Mossfern (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 02:59 PM

Nov 13

Yeh, shu, ah.

Yud, shin, hay.

This shows it the right way, the other letters are silent.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/yeshua-written-with-hebrew-letters--289215607290988743/

Mossfern

(3,172 posts)

45. Can't really tell if it's a hey - looks like a resh to me

Reply to Mosby (Reply #44)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:03 PM

Nov 13

Your link has a vav

Mosby

(17,453 posts)

47. The vav has o/u versions

Reply to Mossfern (Reply #45)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:10 PM

Nov 13

Yeshua is a degenerate version of יהושע‎. Which means "God is our salvation" or "God rescues". It the original Joshua form and it's still the Hebrew format with three consonants, YSH.

Mossfern

(3,172 posts)

48. I understand

Reply to Mosby (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:13 PM

Nov 13

but the letter after the shin is not completely visible.
I would assume however that he wouldn't have "Israel" tattooed on his arm.

Mosby

(17,453 posts)

50. I tend to not like hebrew tats.

Reply to Mossfern (Reply #48)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:25 PM

Nov 13

Justin Beiber has one, Madonna, Steph, lots of people.

Hebrew is difficult and often ambiguous because there are different interpretations of words.

MineralMan

(147,572 posts)

17. Disqualifying! Should be, anyhow.

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:04 AM

Nov 13

Ocelot II

(120,815 posts)

20. Au contraire, mon ami.

Reply to MineralMan (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:07 AM

Nov 13

These are features and not bugs in Trumpworld.

MineralMan

(147,572 posts)

21. I know. It SHOULD be disqualifying.

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:08 AM

Nov 13

It's not, but it should be.

Blues Heron

(6,130 posts)

25. that guy hasnt washed his hands in ten years

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:23 AM

Nov 13

ewwww!!!

C_U_L8R

(45,690 posts)

30. How do you say Nazi without saying Nazi

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:32 AM

Nov 13

All that's missing is a goosestep and a silly uniform.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,852 posts)

34. Good. Then he won't mind getting the mandatory

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:46 AM

Nov 13

"Prop. Donald J. Trump" tattoo, either.

D. Spaulding

(18 posts)

37. The more I learn about this guy

Reply to Cattledog (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:52 AM

Nov 13

the more head scratching his selection for the position is. Is this why Trump wanted promises of a recess appointment? Could he actually be confirmed in the Senate? Scary.