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Pete Hegseth's tattoos (Original Post) Cattledog Nov 2024 OP
Those are reassuring. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #1
At least he has the American flag. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #3
It's defaced with an assault weapon superimposed on it. yardwork Nov 2024 #24
is that supposed to mean- mopinko Nov 2024 #26
It means "My gun will tell you what this flag means." dchill Nov 2024 #28
It's the correct orientation Zeitghost Nov 2024 #40
It's not Greg_In_SF Nov 2024 #59
It is correct. The reason it's facing that way is D. Spaulding Nov 2024 #35
I think that the Celtic cross which is Irish for his heritage I think. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #2
Hegseth isn't an Irish name, it's Scandinavian - Danish or Norwegian. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #6
I can't imagine if that was some negative cross, he'd advertise it in that way. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #9
His Nat. Guard orders during the Biden administration were revoked over it, apparently. See article I posted earlier. hlthe2b Nov 2024 #13
I did read it. That's interesting and I wonder if trump will revoke his position. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #16
Revoke it? Hell, no! He'll probably make him go shirtless to show off his tats. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #32
Those are white nationalist crosses. yardwork Nov 2024 #15
He-Man had that same cross Polybius Nov 2024 #38
I'm thinking you could maybe spot a subtle difference dpibel Nov 2024 #54
It was a joke Polybius Nov 2024 #55
Ah. Of course! I think I've heard that elsewhere! dpibel Nov 2024 #56
Oh, it gets around fast Polybius Nov 2024 #57
Ethnicity is determined by both parents whathehell Nov 2024 #27
Hegseth is Norwegian on both sides of his family. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #31
Okay, got it. whathehell Nov 2024 #33
Deus Vult and the rest of Hegseth's tattoos of Christian Nationalism hlthe2b Nov 2024 #10
That's not the Celtic cross. yardwork Nov 2024 #12
Down thread it says the Jerusalem cross. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #14
What is a Jerusalem cross? yardwork Nov 2024 #18
From the Crusades....The Cross of the Christian forces. ProudMNDemocrat Nov 2024 #22
Got it! The Nazi cross had its roots in that. yardwork Nov 2024 #23
Certainly Christian soandso Nov 2024 #41
The Jerusalem Cross is on his right pec. haele Nov 2024 #29
I don't think it's a Celtic cross D. Spaulding Nov 2024 #36
That isn't a Celtioc cross obamanut2012 Nov 2024 #46
I have Irish heritage and this insults me. Jit423 Nov 2024 #49
Most certainly. Dangerously indoctrinated. hlthe2b Nov 2024 #4
Looks fascist Emile Nov 2024 #5
he's wearing a target peregrinus Nov 2024 #7
Truth in advertising. Kid Berwyn Nov 2024 #8
Whats the hebrew word? Anyone know? Mosby Nov 2024 #11
Sounds like he's an End Timer. yardwork Nov 2024 #19
There were some letters obscured Mossfern Nov 2024 #42
The first vowel threw me. Its supposed to be a pause. Mosby Nov 2024 #44
Can't really tell if it's a hey - looks like a resh to me Mossfern Nov 2024 #45
The vav has o/u versions Mosby Nov 2024 #47
I understand Mossfern Nov 2024 #48
I tend to not like hebrew tats. Mosby Nov 2024 #50
Disqualifying! Should be, anyhow. MineralMan Nov 2024 #17
Au contraire, mon ami. Ocelot II Nov 2024 #20
I know. It SHOULD be disqualifying. MineralMan Nov 2024 #21
that guy hasnt washed his hands in ten years Blues Heron Nov 2024 #25
How do you say Nazi without saying Nazi C_U_L8R Nov 2024 #30
Good. Then he won't mind getting the mandatory Buns_of_Fire Nov 2024 #34
The more I learn about this guy D. Spaulding Nov 2024 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author intheflow Nov 2024 #39
Jerusalem cross...check. "Deus Vult" tat...check. "Don't tread" snake tat...check. keep_left Nov 2024 #43
For the Maggots JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #51
it's MAGAt Skittles Nov 2024 #60
I gotta be true to myself JustAnotherGen Nov 2024 #61
REPUBLICANS Skittles Nov 2024 #62
Re: Irish / Norse History The Norse founded a military base at Dublin and that is when it became... Ysabel Nov 2024 #52
He looks like a real nasty person... Ysabel Nov 2024 #53
Some would say Abolishinist Nov 2024 #58
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
3. At least he has the American flag.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:52 AM
Nov 2024

I hate when it’s facing that way but I think it’s correct.

yardwork

(65,470 posts)
24. It's defaced with an assault weapon superimposed on it.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:22 AM
Nov 2024

And it's facing the wrong way. This is not a simple patriotic message.

This guy has a strong, consistent message, and it's not good.

D. Spaulding

(144 posts)
35. It is correct. The reason it's facing that way is
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:47 AM
Nov 2024

interesting. It relates to the way a flag would appear on a pole as carried by a cavalry soldier charging forward. It signifies always advancing and never retreating.
"According to United States Army regulations, “The full-color US flag cloth replica is worn so that the star field faces forward, or to the flag’s own right.” The flag must always be positioned to look like it is flying forward"

Ocelot II

(122,980 posts)
6. Hegseth isn't an Irish name, it's Scandinavian - Danish or Norwegian.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:54 AM
Nov 2024

At least he's of solid Aryan stock.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
9. I can't imagine if that was some negative cross, he'd advertise it in that way.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:58 AM
Nov 2024

Plus the military would never allow that and he would have been kicked out for sure.

hlthe2b

(107,837 posts)
13. His Nat. Guard orders during the Biden administration were revoked over it, apparently. See article I posted earlier.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:01 AM
Nov 2024
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
16. I did read it. That's interesting and I wonder if trump will revoke his position.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:03 AM
Nov 2024

He might if this gets attention.

yardwork

(65,470 posts)
15. Those are white nationalist crosses.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:02 AM
Nov 2024

Edited to add that the article at the link confirms this:

In 2021, Pete Hegseth was part of the Minnesota National Guard and was called to Washington, D.C., to offer security to Joe Biden for his presidential inauguration. However, his orders were revoked reportedly due to his tattoo, which was allegedly deemed as a symbol of White/ Christian nationalism.

dpibel

(3,513 posts)
54. I'm thinking you could maybe spot a subtle difference
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:05 AM
Nov 2024

To your eye, the cross you've posted is the same as the one on Hegseth in the OP?

I believe that's pretty creative!

(Helpful hint: How many graphical elements are present on He-Man and how many on Hegseth?)

Or is it just a kind of plus sign thing is all the same, no matter how presented?

whathehell

(30,043 posts)
27. Ethnicity is determined by both parents
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:29 AM
Nov 2024

not just the father whose name one generally bears.

hlthe2b

(107,837 posts)
10. Deus Vult and the rest of Hegseth's tattoos of Christian Nationalism
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:59 AM
Nov 2024

What does ‘Deus Vult’ mean? Pete Hegseth tattoo controversy explored in wake of nomination as Trump's Defense Secretary
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/what-deus-vult-mean-pete-hegseth-tattoo-controversy-explored-wake-nomination-trump-s-defense-secretary

"I've got Deus Vult -- God Wills It -- which was the cry of the Crusaders, on my bicep... My entire pec is a Jerusalem cross. Israel, Christianity, and my faith are things I care deeply about," he added.
All you need to know about Pete Hegseth’s tattoo drama

“My orders were revoked to guard the Biden inauguration. Jerusalem Cross tattoo, which is just a Christian symbol. This is the one, this right here is what got be disinvited. I never had orders revoked before,” he shared.“Listen, it’s a standard deal. You remember after January 6th everyone was in Washington D.C., like Nancy Pelosi had the parking garages full of National Guardsmen. My commander called me tepidly a day before and said, ‘Major, you can just stand down. We don’t need you. We’re good.’”

The full article gives a lot of context but won't let me cut and paste. Link above.

yardwork

(65,470 posts)
12. That's not the Celtic cross.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:00 AM
Nov 2024

It's the Nazi cross. Google Nazi insignia.

The Celtic cross isn't square.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,438 posts)
22. From the Crusades....The Cross of the Christian forces.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:08 AM
Nov 2024

Watch the Ridley Scott classic...KINGDOM of HEAVEN with Orlando Bloom. It's there.

?w=584

yardwork

(65,470 posts)
23. Got it! The Nazi cross had its roots in that.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:19 AM
Nov 2024

So, this guy believes that Christians need to defeat both the Muslims and the Jews. And, based on some of his other tattoos, it sounds like he might believe in End Times. From the Book of Revelation, he wants to hasten an apocalypse in the Middle East, which will lead to Christ's resurrection and the end of the world, when the godly Christians will go to paradise and everyone else will go to hell.

Trump just put a man in charge of our military who wants to cause an apocalypse that will bring about the end of the world.

haele

(13,891 posts)
29. The Jerusalem Cross is on his right pec.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:31 AM
Nov 2024

The cross on his right bicep is Nazi, not a Celtic cross.
Deus Vult is used by Christian Nationalists.
Because, hello - Crusaders killing Muslims (and Jews along with the wrong sort of Christian Arabs) to claim the Holy Land for European Christians?

I'd be interested to hear what the troops under him have to say about him and his attitude to others. I'm pretty sure he treated them like NPCs.

Haele

D. Spaulding

(144 posts)
36. I don't think it's a Celtic cross
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:49 AM
Nov 2024

It's called a Jerusalem cross, if I'm not mistaken. Crusaders often bore it

Kid Berwyn

(19,135 posts)
8. Truth in advertising.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:57 AM
Nov 2024

To me, he’s obviously another insane NAZI bastard, unqualified, unable and unsuited to serve as SECDEF.

Mosby

(18,106 posts)
11. Whats the hebrew word? Anyone know?
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 10:59 AM
Nov 2024

I think I figured it out, it's hebrew for yeshua (Jesus real name, Yeshua ben Yoseph v'Miriam).

Mossfern

(3,477 posts)
42. There were some letters obscured
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 02:34 PM
Nov 2024

I recognized the yod and shin - will go back ad look.
eta: next letter is resh.... "I-S-R ..."

Israel?

Mosby

(18,106 posts)
44. The first vowel threw me. Its supposed to be a pause.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 02:59 PM
Nov 2024

Yeh, shu, ah.

Yud, shin, hay.

This shows it the right way, the other letters are silent.


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/yeshua-written-with-hebrew-letters--289215607290988743/

Mosby

(18,106 posts)
47. The vav has o/u versions
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:10 PM
Nov 2024

Yeshua is a degenerate version of יהושע‎. Which means "God is our salvation" or "God rescues". It the original Joshua form and it's still the Hebrew format with three consonants, YSH.

Mossfern

(3,477 posts)
48. I understand
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:13 PM
Nov 2024

but the letter after the shin is not completely visible.
I would assume however that he wouldn't have "Israel" tattooed on his arm.

Mosby

(18,106 posts)
50. I tend to not like hebrew tats.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:25 PM
Nov 2024

Justin Beiber has one, Madonna, Steph, lots of people.

Hebrew is difficult and often ambiguous because there are different interpretations of words.

C_U_L8R

(46,263 posts)
30. How do you say Nazi without saying Nazi
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:32 AM
Nov 2024

All that's missing is a goosestep and a silly uniform.

D. Spaulding

(144 posts)
37. The more I learn about this guy
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 11:52 AM
Nov 2024

the more head scratching his selection for the position is. Is this why Trump wanted promises of a recess appointment? Could he actually be confirmed in the Senate? Scary.

Response to Cattledog (Original post)

keep_left

(2,698 posts)
43. Jerusalem cross...check. "Deus Vult" tat...check. "Don't tread" snake tat...check.
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 02:38 PM
Nov 2024

This guy is a walking talking alt-right meme. No wonder he ran into trouble with his superiors in the military.

JustAnotherGen

(34,373 posts)
51. For the Maggots
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:29 PM
Nov 2024

That's a feature not a glitch.

For me - I expect it. Not going to let it destroy my peace.

JustAnotherGen

(34,373 posts)
61. I gotta be true to myself
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:51 AM
Nov 2024

I can't think of anything else that is too low to kick, or too wet to step on than maggots.

Ysabel

(2,080 posts)
52. Re: Irish / Norse History The Norse founded a military base at Dublin and that is when it became...
Wed Nov 13, 2024, 03:36 PM
Nov 2024

an actual city ( in the year 841) before that it was just a small settlement...

Abolishinist

(2,218 posts)
58. Some would say
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 01:17 AM
Nov 2024

his tits tats are rather bothersome.

This Xtian Nationalism is going to be rife in the new administration.

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