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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat's your opinion as to the number one issue that caused Trump/GOP to win
Not what voters told exit survey but what was truly in their sneaky hearts? From what you are hearing , reading postb election.
If you had to pick only one
177 votes, 17 passes | Time left: Time expired | |
Economy/inflation | |
70 (40%) |
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Abortion | |
0 (0%) |
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Immigration | |
9 (5%) |
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Personality/Trump's brashness/ dislike for Harris | |
4 (2%) |
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Environment/climate | |
0 (0%) |
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Crime | |
0 (0%) |
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Democracy/fear this is last election if their side doesn't win | |
0 (0%) |
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Trans/gender issues | |
1 (1%) |
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Race (separate from immigration) | |
4 (2%) |
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Sexism/misogyny | |
89 (50%) |
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17 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided. | |
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gab13by13
(25,224 posts)Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)lame54
(36,881 posts)hlthe2b
(106,330 posts)GreenWave
(9,167 posts)Zambero
(9,761 posts)The #1 reason, over and above all the others. The RW media machine is a monster of lies and distortion.
PhilosopherKing
(385 posts)Simple really.
Demanchor
(138 posts)northoftheborder
(7,608 posts)Major causes: Ignorance, apathy, laziness, plus racism and misogyny, plus religious cultism. America is not basically what Ive thought it was my whole life. This election is like a punch to the gut rearranging my sense of what Is the essence of the USA. Those negative elements have always been here, but they have metastasized and sprung forth as a major force to destroy everything. And I dont see how its going to change back. The orange villain is just the facilitator.
ibegurpard
(16,856 posts)NT
Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)live love laugh
(14,398 posts)Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)live love laugh
(14,398 posts)disinformation and propaganda?
awesomerwb1
(4,563 posts)If you hear the same lies over and over and over x 1000 they can get you to believe anything.
Right wing media dominates. Fox 'news", Newsmax, OANN, EWTN (yes, the catholic channel), Twitter, 4-8chan, and a billion AM/FM radio stations.
Dan
(4,095 posts)They wanted to hurt the others and didnt realize that we are all in the same pot.
DeepWinter
(466 posts)to see a poll with those exact same choices, but "what was the number one issue that DID NOT cause Trump/GOP to win.
I suspect it's the same thing for half of DU.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,508 posts)For some it was surely misogyny or racism, for others, they bought into the propaganda/media failure that the economy sucked. Not sure what purpose it serves to seek to oversimplify the reasons Harris lost.
The Wizard
(12,863 posts)Macrophylla
(109 posts)Is number one
It's number 2
It's number 3.
WhiskeyGrinder
(23,830 posts)Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,974 posts)With well funded think tanks, cultivating religious wackos, brainwashing people with propaganda radio and TV. This is about the interests of the extremely wealthy, and their use any issue they can find to whip up ordinary rubes to vote against their own interests.
The issue is wealth and power for the wealthiest and most powerful.
Nigrum Cattus
(91 posts)The reason he "won" is religious fanaticism. The right wing religious extremists
think the bible myths somehow predict and require his being in the white house.
The unraveling of Roe is what codified this.
republianmushroom
(17,620 posts)DeepWinter
(466 posts)And we heard it over and over and over again, 2024 is not 2016. That won't happen again. It's totally different. Apples and oranges. Blue wave.
We love to repeat history because we refuse to admit to patterns.
Native
(6,551 posts)mvd
(65,452 posts)The way they are acting now is just as awful.
Ping Tung
(1,274 posts)and many more.
"Home of the brave...." my ass.
oldmanlynn
(388 posts)Ping Tung
(1,274 posts)It worked in 20s Italy, 30s Germany, 70's Chile, and many more. Erect Bogeymen and the people will beg for a REAL Man to wield his sword to chase them away.
BlueTsunami2018
(4,000 posts)Thats what warped all the issues above into something they arent. And theres no way to fight it. You cant stop people from selecting the news they want to hear and that shit is ubiquitous.
Maeve
(42,959 posts)Brexit style voting. A lot of people thought they were "safe" doing a protest vote for Brexit because they thought they would lose, but wanted to make it close. They f*ed up.
Likewise, people voted for tsf thinking Kamala would win, but wanted to make it close. They are about to enter the FO stage.
Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)oldmanlynn
(388 posts)That just tells me again that Democrats us seem to not be recognizing the massive amount of propaganda that Republicans, the right wing push, and all of these people who voted for Trump all see the world differently because of that misinformation. We have to correct that problem we could give out million dollars to everybody in United States, but if the Republicans are pushing propaganda that that million dollars will kill them then they wont take it. Misinformation disinformation that is the number one reason why we lost this election.
Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)flvegan
(64,592 posts)leftstreet
(36,291 posts)OrlandoDem2
(2,270 posts)LW1977
(1,395 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,181 posts)meadowlander
(4,717 posts)To your list, I would only add greed and, in some cases, repressed sadism.
TheKentuckian
(26,181 posts)3catwoman3
(25,432 posts)...assholes.
Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)ironman99
(125 posts)The F***in media.
They gave tRUMP unpaided free advertising.
Refused to acknowledge Biden/Harris accomplishments.
Ignored the birder flu that wiped out entire flocks of chickens that raised the price of eggs and chicken.
Waited until 6 weeks before the election to talk about how well the economy was doing under Biden/Harris.
drray23
(7,962 posts)What drove this loss is targeted disinformation that the right wing is very good at. They flooded the social media of young and disaffected folks with a barrage of lies.
We instead relied on facts and policies. That does not work. Until we dismantle the rw propaganda machine or build one of our own to counter it we will never win the presidential elections again and likely stay in the minority in congress.
Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)usaf-vet
(6,896 posts).... of course, intervention by any and all means possible direct by the GOP or at least ignored by the GOP as long as they win.
The standard state of politics since 2000.
If the GOP wins, it will be a "perfect" election. The Democrats will grumble a little and then move ahead without looking back. It seems that has been our designated role in politics since 2000.
If the Democrats win, the GOP first relies on all of the pre-election warnings that the rumors and lies were true. The election IS GOING to be stolen, we told you, and the MSM repeats the rumors and lies. When that doesn't go their way, they turn to the courts. And even when they lose 60 times in the courts. They continue the lies and have persuaded enough cult followers to believe them, so the cycle continues until the next election.
Then, who wins dictates the start of the next cycle.
Without an audit, we will never know what effect voter suppression in all its forms had on the tallies, and then, of course...
ForgedCrank
(2,190 posts)was there all along if we listen to people.
It was always the economy, followed closely by immigration.
City Lights
(25,303 posts)Solly Mack
(92,762 posts)Polybius
(17,798 posts)We campaigned with the Cheneys.
Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)lees1975
(5,943 posts)No one wants to talk about the fact that he's received more news coverage than anyone ever has in American history.
live love laugh
(14,398 posts)Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)Mariana
(15,095 posts)He got most of the Christians' votes. 63% of Protestants voted for Trump, and 58% of Catholics.
ecstatic
(34,367 posts)The figure comes as part of a new set of polls that show former President Donald Trump narrowly leading Biden in 5 out of 6 crucial battleground states.
Olivia Rosane
May 13, 2024
Approximately 13% of poll respondents in six swing states who voted for U.S. President Joe Biden in 2020 but would not vote for him again said that his foreign policy or Israel's war on Gaza were the most important issues determining their vote.
The figure comes as part of a new set of polls released Monday from The New York Times, Siena College, and The Philadelphia Inquirer that show former President Donald Trump narrowly leading Biden in 5 out of 6 crucial battleground states.
"We have warned that this would happen for months, and the Democratic Party didn't give a damn," author and organizer Daniel Denvir wrote on social media in response to the news.
Read: https://www.commondreams.org/news/13-ex-biden-voters-gaza
bibi intentionally ramped up the slaughter as our election neared. I referred to it as election interference. He literally was trying to trigger a world war. As sickened as I was by the situation, I was hoping that voters would be willing to secure the country from trump, protect our rights and then ramp up the pressure on the Biden administration, but I guess short sighted individuals chose a different route that will help literally nobody.
Even if you factor for the usual sexism, racism, etc, if those 10 million or so voters had taken part in the election, we'd be victorious right now. In my opinion.
Blue_Tires
(55,778 posts)Pretty much every issue in your poll can be directly linked to this...
What really pisses me off is there were tons of news stories this year and last year about Moscow's plans to flood social media with trolls and bots to sway the election and people still fell for it.
rzemanfl
(30,288 posts)uponit7771
(91,750 posts)... non existent policies.
Benedict Donald is ***NOT*** going to improve real wages, all of his policies are going to make it worse
Theproletariat
(42 posts)Disgust with the establishment on both sides. They are beholden to the same entities at the end of the day. People are tired of the bread and circus bullshit from the establishment and wanted something else again.
apcalc
(4,518 posts)Effed us over again not reporting Trumps dementia, not reporting kamalas economic and working class plans, allowing corporations to eff us over with inflated prices
gopiscrap
(24,170 posts)Sugarcoated
(8,099 posts)Specifically, Russian propaganda
Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)nuxvomica
(12,877 posts)Presidential elections are referendums on the incumbent's performance. The people who pushed for Biden to step down should have been out there hyping his achievements, not criticizing his debate performance. It signaled a lack of confidence from which the campaign never recovered.
JanMichael
(25,226 posts)That's all they had on TV here in North Carolina. Basically brown people are criminals and transgender women are going to get you.
Demovictory9
(33,752 posts)Meowmee
(5,467 posts)Economy
Immigration
Misogyny/ racism big one imo
Effect of 10/7- some Jewish voters lost
Michagan Arab voters nv, psycho vote, green vote etc.
cheating will never know exactly what happened and if it had an effect on the actual outcome because no ones really investigating it.
I read on X that someone got over 100,000 Amish voters registered to vote in Pennsylvania, who all voted for a psycho. Im not sure if its true or not.
Also Ukraine war of course, oil heating prices are still twice what they were here, and price gouging starting in pandemic.