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highplainsdem

(52,324 posts) Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:17 PM Nov 13

Just read that Trump might adjourn Congress using Article II, Section 3, and then make recess appointments

This is from Ed Whelan, a RWer, who is opposed to this:

Link to tweet

Ed Whelan
@EdWhelanEPPC

Hope it's wrong, but I'm hearing through the grapevine about this bonkers plan: Trump would adjourn both Houses of Congress under Article II, section 3, and then recess-appoint his Cabinet.

As predicate for Trump's exercise of adjournment power, one House of Congress would seek other House's consent to adjourn and be denied. So Speaker of House would need to be complicit in evisceration of Senate's advice-and-consent role.

House Speaker Mike Johnson needs to say NO to this right away.

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Just read that Trump might adjourn Congress using Article II, Section 3, and then make recess appointments (Original Post) highplainsdem Nov 13 OP

Mike Johnson saying no. That is hilarious. Irish_Dem Nov 13 #1

Little Secret Deep State Witch Nov 13 #2

Here we go!! bluestarone Nov 13 #4

My first thought, too. tanyev Nov 13 #8

Come on Dark Brandon, make him shut up until he gets "installed" GreenWave Nov 13 #3

Like this plan stands a chance against Susan Collins's concern-o-meter BeyondGeography Nov 13 #5

... Solly Mack Nov 13 #6

How can he do anything, he hasn't even been officially elected yet? doc03 Nov 13 #7

That would be after the inauguration. haele Nov 13 #9

The President's power to adjourn is only in one specific case: sarisataka Nov 13 #10

And, he never has to bring them back obamanut2012 Nov 13 #12

Article 1 require Congress meet every year sarisataka Nov 13 #13

Well, yeah, they do have to get re-elected at some point. As things stand, anyway. Emrys Nov 13 #17

See the second tweet in the OP. highplainsdem Nov 13 #14

Why would that even be necessary? Shrek Nov 13 #11

Not Gaetz. speak easy Nov 13 #15

Just read it. It's very vague Buckeyeblue Nov 13 #16

Irish_Dem

(57,318 posts)

1. Mike Johnson saying no. That is hilarious.

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:19 PM

Nov 13

Deep State Witch

(11,248 posts)

2. Little Secret

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:23 PM

Nov 13

This was the "little secret" that TCF alluded to.

bluestarone

(18,220 posts)

4. Here we go!!

Reply to Deep State Witch (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:25 PM

Nov 13

I'm betting YOU are right on the money.

tanyev

(44,501 posts)

8. My first thought, too.

Reply to Deep State Witch (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:44 PM

Nov 13

GreenWave

(9,167 posts)

3. Come on Dark Brandon, make him shut up until he gets "installed"

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:24 PM

Nov 13

BeyondGeography

(40,013 posts)

5. Like this plan stands a chance against Susan Collins's concern-o-meter

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:27 PM

Nov 13

Solly Mack

(92,752 posts)

6. ...

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:29 PM

Nov 13

doc03

(36,694 posts)

7. How can he do anything, he hasn't even been officially elected yet?

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:34 PM

Nov 13

haele

(13,520 posts)

9. That would be after the inauguration.

Reply to doc03 (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:50 PM

Nov 13

People are gaming what *rump might do once he gets power.
That he's announcing already a bunch of goons and Johnson is going to be the next speaker, it's a good chance he's going to try to bypass the Senate process.

Haele

sarisataka

(20,983 posts)

10. The President's power to adjourn is only in one specific case:

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:51 PM

Nov 13

in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper

He can't just tell them "Go home" on a whim. Although if they lack the backbone, they could adjourn themselves when he demands.

obamanut2012

(27,802 posts)

12. And, he never has to bring them back

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:53 PM

Nov 13

sarisataka

(20,983 posts)

13. Article 1 require Congress meet every year

Reply to obamanut2012 (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 05:00 PM

Nov 13

So they would have to at least show up, if only to turn around and go home. I don't think Congress will be that obviously subservient, but I don't expect them to put up any effective resistance to his decrees.

Emrys

(7,941 posts)

17. Well, yeah, they do have to get re-elected at some point. As things stand, anyway.

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 09:17 PM

Nov 13

Total no-shows might not look good on the stump.

Plus there's all that pork barrel grease that needs spreading. It's not going to spread itself.

highplainsdem

(52,324 posts)

14. See the second tweet in the OP.

Reply to sarisataka (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 07:35 PM

Nov 13

Shrek

(4,129 posts)

11. Why would that even be necessary?

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 04:52 PM

Nov 13

Is there any question that the Senate will rubber-stamp the confirmations?

speak easy

(10,503 posts)

15. Not Gaetz.

Reply to Shrek (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 07:41 PM

Nov 13

Buckeyeblue

(5,694 posts)

16. Just read it. It's very vague

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2024, 07:56 PM

Nov 13

Seems like more presidents would do it if it was that simple. And I thought there was some sort of restrictions on recess appointments.

But if you were a president facing impeachment, why couldn't you adjourn both chambers and avoid further precedings?

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