Is it our turn to storm the Capitol and stop the electoral vote count? Any other ideas?

thinking comprehension?

yesterday when he met with him.

We can just win the election again down the road. Don't be so fatalistic. The doomsday stuff has been around my entire life. We will win again, this was an election of margins.

We were in power, we felt the voters' wrath.
In 2020, they were, and COVID was the issue then causing misery

70% said they weren't happy. 70%!

to do what must be done? Are you gonna fight--I mean really fight--to save our country

If it is from another source, please cite it.

If it your opinion I wish you would note that.

Either way what is it you suggest? We had an election. Elections have consequences.

Or maybe we could storm the capitol?

Because I'd truly like to understand what specifically our wonderful, and we were damned lucky to have him, Biden can do.

or just ignored with no consequence, there's no way to enforce anything on them at this point.

we need to focus on and develop opposition strategies. protests, work stoppages, social media strategies, information undergrounds, etc.

Of course that is only true if he's allowed to assume office. Can it possibly be legally stopped? By Biden? And then where would we be?

I just don't see it happening, because I don't think there's enough popular support for President Biden to take drastic actions like that. I don't think there's any way to stop t rump from the presidency. And it follows that he'll overturn anything wants.

made a suggestion for refusing to administer the oath of office to Trump, but it won't happen. Biden would never do it and it would result in instant violence.

Kirschner said that the 14th amendment, Section 3 still holds that no one can hold office after breaking an oath and engaging in an insurrection. The Supreme Court ruled that Trump could be on the ballot, but did not rule that he could serve if elected. Therefore, Kirshner pushed the idea that Trump could still be denied the presidency.

Kirschner was blowing out empty hot air. Who would make the determination and enforce it? Nothing gives Biden that power. The SC would rule against it. If attempted, it would create an instant violent response from MAGAs.

Not be giving up, convinced our doom is but moments away. It isn't!

We are going to come back from this. We always do..

People being attacked is what worries me most, and there are so many people in their sights. I hope to see concerted efforts to stand in the way of that. Stand right in it's way.

We're going to have to convince some maga people to stand against some of it too. My 2 cents. Most are still human.

I have to get. Be well

if donnie were somehow prevented from taking office, republicans would still hold the trifecta.

it's not as if the republican party was perfectly reasonable and donnie was a singular anomaly. at this point, it doesn't really matter. vance or anyone else in the oval office would be just as much of a disaster, possibly even worse as anyone else would have somewhat more competence.


we need to accept that the fascists have taken over and we need to prepare oppositional and survival strategies.

going to mount a horse and lead a Calvary charge to overthow Trump? Not. Going. To. Happen.

They can't seem to agree among themselves on anything with out the Democrats saving them.

This election was the last chance to save it. That chance failed. Its not coming back.

your legal ideas to address this.

Maybe that will help.

Why did Lincoln use military force against his fellow Americans? Sure, the South fired the first shots, but why retaliate when you could just talk it out with the fine, reasonable, slaveholding racist gentlemen of the South?

What you seem to be suggesting is more akin to what southern slave owners did, rather than Lincoln's response.

They refused to accept the election results, and so initiated a civil war.

Is that what you're suggesting here?

The Southern States didn't like the outcome of a Presidential election and so they took up arms and attacked the federal government.


You aren't advocating for Lincoln's position, you are advocating for the Confederate position.

But unless we, the Biden administration, use every option--including the military--to stop Trump, then everyone who has ever died in combat to save this country from fascists will, in fact, have died in vain.

But then hey, rules are rules, right? So let's play by the rules while the domestic terrorists jail journalists and late-night talk show hosts and anyone else they damn please. Let's play by the rules and watch as Liz Cheney and Gen. Milley are set before firing squads. Yah, that's the way decent people behave. They bow down to fascists and hope for the best. Good luck with that.

Much worse if Biden tries a coup using the military. Every one of the bill of rights would go out the window tomorrow. Imagine the military going door to door because someone protested the take over by Biden. Imagine when they go in to houses to search for guns with no warrants, imagine when they throw people in jail with out a trial because they voted a certain way. People on both sides would get swept up in it, people protesting those protesting the take over would get shot at just as fast as the other side.

If Biden tried to do a military coup, it would make the civil war look peaceful, and destroy everything that keeps us safe. Yes rump may try to do away with some of it, but tearing down the house of cards completely because one section could fall is much worse.

But could the case be made legally? To the point where the public would buy it? And not to mention there would be the fallout. There is not a clear choice.

Is for Biden to attempt to stop him from taking office with military force.

The military would not follow those illegal orders and it would give Trump a fairly valid reason to declare martial law once in office to ensure the attempted coup was fully put down.

What you are suggesting makes the J6 crowd look like peaceful demonstrators by comparison.

Revisit the regimes of Pinochet? Franko? Because that's what you seem to be asking for.

with the SOB yesterday.

Why didn't Lincoln just meet with Jefferson Davis and hand the country over to him rather than get involved in a nasty civil war?

time to do something was J6.

What does fight mean to you?

Russia is not going to invade & take over Europe.

Trump will be gone in 4 years and if he's half as bad as we think he'll be, he will usher in a blue wave of Pres/Senate/HoR for 4-8 years.

Every generation has had someone they thought was extreme and the US has survived. It will survive Trump, and it will be up to us to push it back in the right direction. These kinds of crazy, over the top suggestions of things that will never happen make it easier and easier for us to be ignored.

How do you know this for a fact?

They couldn't even "take over" Ukraine. EU/NATO isn't Ukraine.

Reason always resists delusion because in reason's absence our freedoms cease to exist.

How to resist?

1. Do Not Be A Hero
2. Keep Your Head Low
3. Do The Next Correct Thing For Yourself And Your Own
4. Repeat Process

I will be pleasantly surprised if states protecting those within their borders do not end up in armed confrontations with fascist goons.

Time will tell.
Me and mine are just working within arms reach of ourselves.

Don't let the bastards get ya' down.
Seize your day and laissez les bon temps rouler!

who are "stocking their bunkers" because they expect a military coup in January. One thinks that forcing this on America was Putin's plan(make the current administration destroy the country rather than let Trump) and is certain the votes were altered by Musk and Putin.

Today people still do that sort of thing. Everybody can stock up on items, if they’d like.

Nt

Fight to overthrow a democratically elected President who won the most votes. You're the anti-Democratic force.

Democrats see right through what you're trying to do. MAGA provocateurs are real.

You forgot to mention it in your OP.

Your comment:

"So what'll it be? Are we gonna fight--I mean really fight--to save our country, or are we going to hand it over to domestic terrorists?"

Trump won the electoral college and a majority of votes. We have no authority to overturn a legitimate election.

I don't think so. Biden is too busy entertaining Trump. Class action lawsuits should be filed against the Supreme Court for distorting the Constitution and against the Republican Party for giving us a candidate such as Trump. It doesn't matter if the suits go anywhere. Just keep filing them and if turned down, change a few words and file again. Appeal, appeal, appeal.
And, if not VP Harris, some Democratic politician's name should be out there every day. Just like Trump's has been since 2020.