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Jack E Smith! - not Jack L Smith (Original Post) malaise Nov 2024 OP
Wow. That's frankly terrifying. Easterncedar Nov 2024 #1
Indeed malaise Nov 2024 #2
Thanks for transcribing that Malaise so we don't have to go to x Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #23
For the visually oriented: usonian Nov 2024 #38
Perfect malaise Nov 2024 #53
JOHN LUMAN SMITH,.... You know about the name discrepancy,... correct ? magicarpet Nov 2024 #102
Dickeylee Dickeylee Nov 2024 #103
Jack E Smith is not the special counsel kkmarie Nov 2024 #117
Oh,.. excellent post by Malaise, absolutely no question. magicarpet Nov 2024 #131
Regular Jack E Smith posts catchnrelease Nov 2024 #138
Oligarchy is fascism on steroids. They've got us by the cojones. brush Nov 2024 #72
Exactly what I have been saying for the better part of a decade... orwell Nov 2024 #44
Thanks! 2naSalit Nov 2024 #80
I've never seen 53 recs on a sub post before Uncle Joe Nov 2024 #99
MoneyPOWER. Bluethroughu Nov 2024 #123
The best line malaise Nov 2024 #3
Putin and many others bdamomma Nov 2024 #54
Depends on whether he succeeds in purging military leadership or not. Karasu Nov 2024 #67
He nailed it. CentralMass Nov 2024 #4
And then some malaise Nov 2024 #9
I'm not terrified NJCher Nov 2024 #5
just the facts stillcool Nov 2024 #11
yo, Jack NJCher Nov 2024 #6
The same post is here at Bluesky ananda Nov 2024 #22
Thanks! ShazzieB Nov 2024 #46
Thanks blueseas Nov 2024 #78
Thanks malaise Nov 2024 #98
It's a parody account, not the Jack Smith in the avatar. femmedem Nov 2024 #24
Oh well, it's extremely well written, that's for sure. ShazzieB Nov 2024 #49
Thanks! I was scrolling down the comments... reACTIONary Nov 2024 #60
speaks for me as well markie Nov 2024 #7
Could you post this as its own OP, for visibility, and so we can rec it? niyad Nov 2024 #17
Agree malaise Nov 2024 #21
Wow wonderful poster. Thanks and I agree with malaise's suggestion to post as its own OP. c-rational Nov 2024 #88
Yes and so many Americans will respond to this message when our side takes this on in full force. Passages Nov 2024 #120
K & R Emile Nov 2024 #8
Not really Jack Smith J-9 Nov 2024 #10
Who cares malaise Nov 2024 #12
okay, what? Brenda Nov 2024 #29
No, it's a parody account...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2024 #32
maybe ok Brenda Nov 2024 #35
It's a parody account Babajida Nov 2024 #45
I would love it to be but the comments are spot on malaise Nov 2024 #51
What difference does that make to the validity of the posted material? niyad Nov 2024 #56
I care. There is clearly a different weight and implication based on source credibility. Gore1FL Nov 2024 #37
Exactly what diffference does that make to what was posted? niyad Nov 2024 #57
I would think that Jack Smith would carry more weight than rando-person on internet. nt Gore1FL Nov 2024 #84
So the words change meaning, based on who presents them? Got it. niyad Nov 2024 #104
The literal title of the thread is "Jack E Smith!" When it is presented as "Jack E Smith!" I expect "Jack E Smith!" Gore1FL Nov 2024 #108
The fact that it is Jack "E." Smith should have been the giveaway, since Special niyad Nov 2024 #110
Now THAT made me laugh for the first time since 11/6! n/t Cheezoholic Nov 2024 #112
Happy to help! niyad Nov 2024 #113
FFS. Why? Why? Why are you continuing this subthread. Gore1FL Nov 2024 #121
ohhhh myyyy. The irony. niyad Nov 2024 #125
And the coppery, and aluminumy. Please harass someone else over unimportant bullshit. I'm busy. nt Gore1FL Nov 2024 #127
. . . niyad Nov 2024 #128
Goodbye forever. nt Gore1FL Nov 2024 #130
I imagine the real Jack Smith cares about his name and photo being associated with words he didn't write. onenote Nov 2024 #43
This particular account has been around for quite some time now. I don't notice niyad Nov 2024 #47
?? J-9 Nov 2024 #66
It is interesting that you thought that the OP needed to be informed of that fact. niyad Nov 2024 #81
There are no charges J-9 Nov 2024 #87
J-9 hasn't posted again since this exchange. femmedem Nov 2024 #140
Malaise J-9 Nov 2024 #75
We all know that, thank you. niyad Nov 2024 #19
It doesn't look to me as if all the posters know that. femmedem Nov 2024 #28
It's pretty clear "all" don't know that. onenote Nov 2024 #42
Looks like a whole bunch of us don't know that. Iggo Nov 2024 #76
No, we DON'T "all know that." nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #91
Okay, J-9 sagetea Nov 2024 #25
Correct, and welcome to DU. femmedem Nov 2024 #26
Thanks. I've been lurking daily J-9 Nov 2024 #68
Yeah, some of those replies were uncalled for. femmedem Nov 2024 #90
Thanks. I missed that. Easterncedar Nov 2024 #101
It matters to me! I sent this out to my family! ALBliberal Nov 2024 #105
It's the last chance for the world's elite to steal everything of value before climate chaos really hits. CrispyQ Nov 2024 #13
Bet Leonard Leo is feeling oh so proud of himself these days. Scum! SheilaAnn Nov 2024 #14
My hero and there are not many left imo. FDR would agree with Smith 100%. Passages Nov 2024 #15
It's not your hero, unless your hero is a parody writer. nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #92
A parody writer who acknowledges the power and corruption of the oligarchs. Passages Nov 2024 #96
Wow! spicysista Nov 2024 #16
And what created these oligarchs? Farmer-Rick Nov 2024 #18
There were oligarchies under feudalism as well malaise Nov 2024 #33
Yes, unbridled capitalism always leads to oligarchy and fascism...nt Wounded Bear Nov 2024 #34
Speaks for me as well! niyad Nov 2024 #20
The French oligarchy FAFO'ed in 1793 Zorro Nov 2024 #27
Just recc malaise Nov 2024 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #115
This may be the most important thing that you read today, especially so, considering the source. EarnestPutz Nov 2024 #31
The source is a parody site, not Jack Smith. onenote Nov 2024 #40
He's absolutely right, and if Biden were smart... infullview Nov 2024 #36
The problem with your post is that Biden is smart as are the people advising him onenote Nov 2024 #41
Like you are.... infullview Nov 2024 #119
And some people called Smith Superman lol Sewa Nov 2024 #39
so much for "we" all knowing this was a parody account. thebigidea Nov 2024 #55
Jack Smith will save democracy how fucking funny Sewa Nov 2024 #59
Thank you. Six117 Nov 2024 #48
Um, yeah relayerbob Nov 2024 #50
We are in predicament. Manage as well as you can. cachukis Nov 2024 #52
Wow! Powerful. Thank you so much for posting, malaise. wordstroken Nov 2024 #58
So, these tariffs that Shitler keeps talking about, exactly where would all of the $$ be going? OMGWTF Nov 2024 #61
Nazi Germany had its oligarchs too even if they were called industrialists bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #62
They work hand in hand malaise Nov 2024 #65
Oh Yeah. We've know it..without lot of power and money, we also know... chouchou Nov 2024 #63
Captain Jack has spotted the iceberg we are about to hit Blue Owl Nov 2024 #64
It's a parody. nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #93
I considered making this an OP soldierant Nov 2024 #69
I think this should be its own OP, for wider visibility. niyad Nov 2024 #106
Well, Mark Cuban and Warren Buffet and... Justice matters. Nov 2024 #70
That's not a parting shot, that's Prairie_Seagull Nov 2024 #71
It's not a parting shot. It's a parody. Not the Jack Smith in the avatar. nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #89
American Oligarchy blueseas Nov 2024 #73
But I can't see it! 2naSalit Nov 2024 #74
See post #2 malaise Nov 2024 #77
Excellent Nululu Nov 2024 #79
The Gnomes of Zurich Jrsygrl96 Nov 2024 #82
Blueprints for guillotines are readily available online Orrex Nov 2024 #83
A landlord with gold toilets Puppyjive Nov 2024 #85
We need a new rule. So we can alert posts that the poster should have... LAS14 Nov 2024 #86
Out of curiosity, have you asked the same of the other parody and satire niyad Nov 2024 #109
I'm collecting examples in preparation for making an OP on the subject. LAS14 Nov 2024 #124
Very much looking forward to it. niyad Nov 2024 #126
Thanks Jack, you nailed it. republianmushroom Nov 2024 #94
Meh. Mosby Nov 2024 #95
I totally agree with Jack, but I would suggest that's it's not just American, Uncle Joe Nov 2024 #97
No, it is the stupid motherfuckers. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #100
malaise, I believe you should make it clear in your OP that this is a fake account you are linking us to. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Nov 2024 #107
Most people here already know that padah513 Nov 2024 #111
And no matter who said it, the post is valid. GoodRaisin Nov 2024 #114
No we don't... Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #116
The truth, the whole truth, nuthin but the truth. Magoo48 Nov 2024 #118
I've known this for decades. I've been watching how our oligarchs have manipulated the economy to benefir themselves. SharonAnn Nov 2024 #122
I don't know about the rest of you, but... Omnipresent Nov 2024 #129
My sentiments exactly. sop Nov 2024 #132
No Sh*t Beowulf42 Nov 2024 #133
I'm surprised he gets away with using Jack L. Smith's picture. Sogo Nov 2024 #134
I followed him fir a while on Twitter Catherine Vincent Nov 2024 #135
Thank you for the edit to the OP to clarify which Jack Smith. n/t Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #136
The name difference does not discount or discredit the value of the message conveyed. magicarpet Nov 2024 #137
Precisely n/t malaise Nov 2024 #139

malaise

(280,895 posts)
2. Indeed
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:19 PM
Nov 2024

I, like many of you, have been contemplating our predicament since election night.

We are in a losing war for our democracy and I'm not sure we collectively know who our true adversary is.

It's not the voting blocks...white women, Latinos, Gen X. It's not MAGA. It's not even Trump.

It's an insidious power that has been hiding in the shadows for some time...and when the stakes were at their highest in this election, it fully revealed itself.

The American Oligarchy.

They control our Supreme Court, much of Congress, and the flow of information to the masses via legacy, mainstream and social media.

They decide the national conversation, how to keep us at each other's throats while they continue to amass wealth and power completely unchecked.

They put their thumbs on the scale of justice and poured billions into this election. They chose Trump because he was desperate and would capitulate to their demands. They chose a running mate to replace him in case he became too unhinged to control.

Consider how many disqualifying facts about Trump never saw the light of day...or didn't get the attention they deserved...or got drowned out by propaganda. They took a mentally spent buffoon and presented him as a hero to the masses.

Despite Biden successfully steering us out of a global recession and strengthening our economy, they maintained the national tone about the price of groceries being too high. Despite Trump's obvious mental decline, their media outlets remained reticent to press the issue.

We struggle to unite as a nation because they're too good at keeping us divided. We are drowning in disinformation because they control all of it.

They have successfully created imaginary villains for us to fight...each other.

It seems like we are a democracy careening towards fascism, when the reality is they're using the specter of fascism to keep us on edge while they turn America into a compliant oligarchy.

Whether you are a democrat, republican, independent or MAGA, we have a common foe.

Some of us just don't know it yet.

magicarpet

(17,613 posts)
102. JOHN LUMAN SMITH,.... You know about the name discrepancy,... correct ?
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 09:58 PM
Nov 2024

"John Luman Smith (born June 5, 1969) is an American attorney who has served in the United States Department of Justice as an assistant U.S. attorney, acting U.S. attorney, and head of the department's Public Integrity Section. He was also the chief prosecutor at the Kosovo Specialist Chambers, an international tribunal at The Hague tasked with investigating and prosecuting war crimes in the Kosovo War."

In November 2022, attorney general Merrick Garland appointed Smith an independent special counsel, responsible for overseeing two preexisting Justice Department criminal investigations into former president Donald Trump, three days after Trump announced his 2024 presidential campaign: one regarding Trump's role in the January 6 U.S. Capitol attack, and the other into alleged mishandling of government records, including classified documents. The documents case resulted in a 37-count indictment of Trump in June 2023 to which three counts were later added in July.[2] In August, the January 6 case resulted in an indictment on four charges.[3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Smith_(lawyer)#:~:text=John%20Luman%20Smith%20(born,the%20Kosovo%20War.

Dickeylee

(6 posts)
103. Dickeylee
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 10:25 PM
Nov 2024

That 22 month gap really set the narrative of lie and stall, appeal and appeal. Maybe May 2021?
Oh, and Fanie sleeping with a married man…

kkmarie

(53 posts)
117. Jack E Smith is not the special counsel
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 05:59 AM
Nov 2024

When I saw the x from Jack E Smith. I thought no way special counsel would post his thoughts to x. And apparently he did not. As you did magicarpet a search shows special counsel middle name is Luman.

Can't argue that it's a good post though

magicarpet

(17,613 posts)
131. Oh,.. excellent post by Malaise, absolutely no question.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:49 AM
Nov 2024

Mother Malaise has a sharp eye and mind to huntdown goodies on the web and bring them to DU for open group discussions and further considerations.

Who ever wrote this,... who ever John "E" Smith is,... said just what everyone needs to hear/think/consider as we formulate plans to sort our way out of this vehement Nazi anti-democracy festival of hate.

An excellent message was passed on to us explaining where we are and what we are up against as we sort our way out of this mess we are engulfed and tangled up in.

Well written piece no matter the source it was derived from.

It would be nice to hear this person's and/or groups perspectives and viewpoints periodically now and then. I found it refreshing and encouraging that a concise statement was made covering most all of the bases and causes of our current situations and quickly approaching dilemmas.

Maybe like the leaker "Anonymous",.. John "E" Smith will periodically visit upon us when he has some more words of encouragement to impart or information to share.

I for one will be on the lookout and open minded for alternate viewpoints
about how we slay this fire breathing dragon of Fascism. It is foolish to slam or close doors that might help us achieve that end.

Being somewhat less rigid and more positive might be the best course of action for us all presently - if we hope to put this issue of Fascism to rest once again. All hands of deck is really our best game plan and option.

catchnrelease

(2,041 posts)
138. Regular Jack E Smith posts
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 03:30 PM
Nov 2024

He posts regularly on the Bluesky forum. An alternative to x and as far as I can tell it doesn't allow the hateful and disinformation posts seen on x. At least not so far. Many excellent and informative posters there.

brush

(58,807 posts)
72. Oligarchy is fascism on steroids. They've got us by the cojones.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:21 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:58 PM - Edit history (1)

I resent being grouped with traitors, magats and rethugs.

All of us weren't fooled.

orwell

(8,003 posts)
44. Exactly what I have been saying for the better part of a decade...
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:12 PM
Nov 2024

...but very few choose to listen.

They keep buying products from these pigs and then wonder why they are covered with muck.

You are literally buying your enslavement.

malaise

(280,895 posts)
3. The best line
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:20 PM
Nov 2024

They took a mentally spent buffoon and presented him as a hero to the masses.

bdamomma

(67,357 posts)
54. Putin and many others
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:29 PM
Nov 2024

are in for full destruction of the USA. Insurrection Act could be implemented if anyone protests the felon.

I am hoping the military will not comply to anything that the felon requests.

NJCher

(38,838 posts)
5. I'm not terrified
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:25 PM
Nov 2024

Those are just the facts. Somebody has to define the problem succinctly before we can do anything about it. That's what Jack has done.

I liked the part about the mentally spent candidate and how he was chosen because he is desperate. Also how they even chose his successor in case he becomes too hard to handle.They are already at that point and he's not even at his inauguration.

stillcool

(33,169 posts)
11. just the facts
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:31 PM
Nov 2024

nothing we haven't known about for a long time. Unfortunately naming names has never meant anything. Whether it's the Koch's the Mercer's, Devos's...remember that site that had all the right wing think tanks, hedge funds, and families?

femmedem

(8,483 posts)
24. It's a parody account, not the Jack Smith in the avatar.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:50 PM
Nov 2024

From Jack E Smith's profile: "Here for people, politics and PARODY."

ShazzieB

(19,426 posts)
49. Oh well, it's extremely well written, that's for sure.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:20 PM
Nov 2024

I already followed him on Bluesky, so I'll continue to do so. I'll be interested to see what else he comes up with.

reACTIONary

(6,296 posts)
60. Thanks! I was scrolling down the comments...
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:46 PM
Nov 2024

... to find out if that was the case. None of it seemed like anything Jack Smith would post. He's a pro.

markie

(23,129 posts)
7. speaks for me as well
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:28 PM
Nov 2024

for 50 years...
I have displayed this poster in my house for decades...

niyad

(122,099 posts)
17. Could you post this as its own OP, for visibility, and so we can rec it?
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:41 PM
Nov 2024

Thanks in advance.

malaise

(280,895 posts)
21. Agree
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:44 PM
Nov 2024

Between the neo-cons foreign policy and neo-liberal ecominic policy we are collectively fucked

c-rational

(2,912 posts)
88. Wow wonderful poster. Thanks and I agree with malaise's suggestion to post as its own OP.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:48 PM
Nov 2024

Passages

(1,863 posts)
120. Yes and so many Americans will respond to this message when our side takes this on in full force.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 07:53 AM
Nov 2024

We are undoubtedly the better side, yet we must be much bolder and not interpret our losses as a sign that we are too liberal.

That is my fear, the Dem leadership will go to the right.

I also want to see the old guard retire asap.

Babajida

(80 posts)
45. It's a parody account
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:13 PM
Nov 2024

That doesn't undercut what was written. It's a great parody account. It's not *the* Jack Smith.

Gore1FL

(22,184 posts)
37. I care. There is clearly a different weight and implication based on source credibility.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:05 PM
Nov 2024

I don't see the need to be hostile to a new member who posted a fact.

Gore1FL

(22,184 posts)
84. I would think that Jack Smith would carry more weight than rando-person on internet. nt
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:18 PM
Nov 2024

Gore1FL

(22,184 posts)
108. The literal title of the thread is "Jack E Smith!" When it is presented as "Jack E Smith!" I expect "Jack E Smith!"
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 11:02 PM
Nov 2024

So yes. In the context of how the infomration was presented, "Jack E Smith!" is sort of an expected requirement.

And yes, those words would have had more meaning if they had been from "Jack E Smith!"

I'm glad you got it.

niyad

(122,099 posts)
110. The fact that it is Jack "E." Smith should have been the giveaway, since Special
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 11:13 PM
Nov 2024

Counsel Smith is Jack "Luman" Smith.

Gore1FL

(22,184 posts)
121. FFS. Why? Why? Why are you continuing this subthread.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:04 AM
Nov 2024

Dont you have 100 cross-posts to make or something?

Gore1FL

(22,184 posts)
127. And the coppery, and aluminumy. Please harass someone else over unimportant bullshit. I'm busy. nt
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:15 AM
Nov 2024

onenote

(44,925 posts)
43. I imagine the real Jack Smith cares about his name and photo being associated with words he didn't write.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:11 PM
Nov 2024

And people believing that they are his words.

I know I would care a great deal if that was being done to me.

niyad

(122,099 posts)
47. This particular account has been around for quite some time now. I don't notice
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:17 PM
Nov 2024

Special Counsel Jack Smith being upset about it, especially given the tenor of the account.

J-9

(66 posts)
66. ??
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:09 PM
Nov 2024

I didn't say I don't agree with it. I just informed the poster it was not the *real* person they thought. You know, the name of the thread.

Why is that a problem? I thought we didn't want to be like them and spread misinformation.

Your welcome.

niyad

(122,099 posts)
81. It is interesting that you thought that the OP needed to be informed of that fact.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:37 PM
Nov 2024

That particular parody account's remarks have been posted here any number of times, without the OP being accused of spreading misinformation, so I am fascinated by your charges.

J-9

(66 posts)
87. There are no charges
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:41 PM
Nov 2024

I thought we were here to inform each other. That's all it was, making sure folks know what's real. I didn't attack, I informed. And apparently many people didn't know.

I stand by my post.

femmedem

(8,483 posts)
140. J-9 hasn't posted again since this exchange.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 08:21 PM
Nov 2024

I'm not surprised, but I'm sad. It looks like we lost another new member of this community, someone whose effort to prevent a misunderstanding I appreciated.

J-9

(66 posts)
75. Malaise
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:24 PM
Nov 2024

Let me make this pelucidly clear. I've been reading your comments for years, this disappoints me.

Idc if you don't care, I just want you to know.

femmedem

(8,483 posts)
28. It doesn't look to me as if all the posters know that.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:54 PM
Nov 2024

And hey, why not be more welcoming to a new DUer?

Iggo

(48,706 posts)
76. Looks like a whole bunch of us don't know that.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:25 PM
Nov 2024

Pretty easy to spot as a fake, but that never stopped DUers before…lol.

femmedem

(8,483 posts)
26. Correct, and welcome to DU.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:52 PM
Nov 2024

I just posted the same thing, not realizing you beat me to it.
Welcome to Democratic Underground!

J-9

(66 posts)
68. Thanks. I've been lurking daily
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:18 PM
Nov 2024

Since President Obama but just created an account recently. I didn't engage before because people can be rude for no reason.

See above.

Oh. I also joined bluesky yesterday.🎉

femmedem

(8,483 posts)
90. Yeah, some of those replies were uncalled for.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:52 PM
Nov 2024

And I was surprised by who made them. I hope they don't chase you off the board.
For what it's worth, I wasn't the only person standing up for you. I try to shrug off the rudeness and focus on the information and kindness that are here, too.

ALBliberal

(2,927 posts)
105. It matters to me! I sent this out to my family!
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 10:47 PM
Nov 2024

Now it’s a bit embarrassing

Let’s hope the real Jack Smith has same valor

Ok not holding my breath

A bit of a let down honestly

CrispyQ

(39,049 posts)
13. It's the last chance for the world's elite to steal everything of value before climate chaos really hits.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:34 PM
Nov 2024

The smart ones are building as big a cushion as they can, the dumb ones are living large, & the rest of us can buzz off. I've said for a few years now, that democracy's going to be harder & harder to hang onto throughout the world, & we just dealt ours a horrible blow.

Passages

(1,863 posts)
15. My hero and there are not many left imo. FDR would agree with Smith 100%.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:39 PM
Nov 2024
The American Oligarchy.

They control our Supreme Court, much of Congress, and the flow of information to the masses via legacy, mainstream and social media.

They decide the national conversation, how to keep us at each other's throats while they continue to amass wealth and power completely unchecked.

Passages

(1,863 posts)
96. A parody writer who acknowledges the power and corruption of the oligarchs.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 09:01 PM
Nov 2024

Not likely too far off the mark for Smith.

I guess the blue check is meaningless since Musk bought Twitter.

spicysista

(1,731 posts)
16. Wow!
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:39 PM
Nov 2024

Cam you imagine all the evidence he's seen? Evidence that may never see the light of day.

Edited to add: Even if this isn't the real account, this take is brilliant.

Farmer-Rick

(11,650 posts)
18. And what created these oligarchs?
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:42 PM
Nov 2024

Capitalism. Even in Russia and China. Capitalism is concentrating wealth in just a few hands.

They are the real enemy of the people, the filthy-rich oligarchs.

malaise

(280,895 posts)
33. There were oligarchies under feudalism as well
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:58 PM
Nov 2024

Many reforms took place in the last century but the unraveling began with the collapse of socialism - society has been replaced by the market.

Zorro

(16,878 posts)
27. The French oligarchy FAFO'ed in 1793
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:52 PM
Nov 2024

The Russian oligarchy FAFO'ed in 1918.

The Romanian oligarchy FAFO'ed in 1989.

Just sayin'.

Response to Zorro (Reply #27)

EarnestPutz

(2,745 posts)
31. This may be the most important thing that you read today, especially so, considering the source.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 05:57 PM
Nov 2024

onenote

(44,925 posts)
40. The source is a parody site, not Jack Smith.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:08 PM
Nov 2024

Someone asked "who cares"-- I bet the real Jack Smith cares that his photo and name are being associated with statements he didn't make.

infullview

(1,065 posts)
36. He's absolutely right, and if Biden were smart...
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:02 PM
Nov 2024

He would invoke insurrection and arrest trump Vance and at lest four members of the supreme court invoke martial law and take control of government until the gerrymandering and electoral college can be reworked to provide real democracy. The Supreme Court had given him the cover he needs to do this. It’s time.

onenote

(44,925 posts)
41. The problem with your post is that Biden is smart as are the people advising him
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:10 PM
Nov 2024

And they, unlike you, know the limits of his power, what the immunity decision actually does, and what martial law is and isn't.

But go ahead and be a pretend constitutional expert and give advice to the president. That makes a lot of sense.

infullview

(1,065 posts)
119. Like you are....
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 07:43 AM
Nov 2024

Sorry I’m so pissed off about our failed government. Yes, I think Biden failed by appointing Merrick Garland as AG. He should have gone after trump first.

Sewa

(1,380 posts)
39. And some people called Smith Superman lol
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:06 PM
Nov 2024

Superman wouldn’t cut n run for cover.

He knows who’s behind the destruction of democracy but he’s afraid to name names.

Fuck Off Smith

thebigidea

(13,471 posts)
55. so much for "we" all knowing this was a parody account.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:33 PM
Nov 2024

What exactly is the parody or satire here, anyway? They are just using Smith's name and likeness to post bog standard left-wing twitter stuff.

OMGWTF

(4,564 posts)
61. So, these tariffs that Shitler keeps talking about, exactly where would all of the $$ be going?
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:48 PM
Nov 2024

Is this just another way to grift off of us? These oligarchs are mentally ill. They are hoarders and will never have enough.

bucolic_frolic

(48,673 posts)
62. Nazi Germany had its oligarchs too even if they were called industrialists
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:50 PM
Nov 2024

Thievery of all kinds, passing the loot up the political ladder. So I really have to question if rule by Oligarchs is any less fascist.

chouchou

(1,604 posts)
63. Oh Yeah. We've know it..without lot of power and money, we also know...
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 06:51 PM
Nov 2024

..we're still in our cages..trying to break free. Love you Jack!

soldierant

(8,181 posts)
69. I considered making this an OP
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:19 PM
Nov 2024

but after reading this, I decided to just put it here.

https://denverite.com/2024/11/13/denver-scream-church-trump-election-reaction/

Anyone for whom this would behelpful, or even thinks it might be helpful, you don't have to live in Denver. All the procedures are here.

It's not fpr me, but I'm vividly aware that there are tons of things in the world whic do nothing for me, but can be incredibly elpful to many people. I would recommend reaching out to Candice if you intend to ude her name -the personal one or the name "Scream Church."

Justice matters.

(7,899 posts)
70. Well, Mark Cuban and Warren Buffet and...
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:19 PM
Nov 2024

Taylor Swift and Oprah Winfrey and Beyoncé Giselle Knowles-Carter are not in the same tribe as Murdoch and Musk and Thiel and Sinclair (the most well known oligarchs on the dark side) but I get the point.

Orrex

(64,697 posts)
83. Blueprints for guillotines are readily available online
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 07:52 PM
Nov 2024

And pitchforks can be obtained at any home center.

Puppyjive

(652 posts)
85. A landlord with gold toilets
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:32 PM
Nov 2024

Why in earth would anyone think Trump is equipped to lower shelter prices? He would be shooting himself in the foot. Your landlord raises your rent so you give him him complete power. Wtf?

LAS14

(14,984 posts)
86. We need a new rule. So we can alert posts that the poster should have...
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 08:38 PM
Nov 2024

... known were misleading. This is a parody account. We should have been told in the OP. I'm not sure how one would word this.
Anyway, malaise, could you edit your OP to give us a heads up?

niyad

(122,099 posts)
109. Out of curiosity, have you asked the same of the other parody and satire
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 11:08 PM
Nov 2024

accounts that are posted here on DU?

LAS14

(14,984 posts)
124. I'm collecting examples in preparation for making an OP on the subject.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:05 AM
Nov 2024

I've got 3 good ones so far. Started collecting about a week ago.

Uncle Joe

(60,715 posts)
97. I totally agree with Jack, but I would suggest that's it's not just American,
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 09:07 PM
Nov 2024

but global oligarchy manipulating the people and turning them against one another.

Thanks for the thread malaise

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
100. No, it is the stupid motherfuckers.
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 09:16 PM
Nov 2024

The excuses for the stupidity are tiresome and can only function as excercises in magical thinking.

DontBelieveEastisEas

(1,211 posts)
107. malaise, I believe you should make it clear in your OP that this is a fake account you are linking us to. nt
Thu Nov 14, 2024, 10:53 PM
Nov 2024

Magoo48

(5,884 posts)
118. The truth, the whole truth, nuthin but the truth.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 06:20 AM
Nov 2024

They’ve even plopped one of themselves down right in the middle of the circus for all to see. Muskrat is the managing partner

SharonAnn

(13,945 posts)
122. I've known this for decades. I've been watching how our oligarchs have manipulated the economy to benefir themselves.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:10 AM
Nov 2024

You just had to pay attention. It was especially visible during Regan's term and W's term. Then people just got used to not paying attention to the tax bills, the tax credits, the gov't funding private enterprise?

Omnipresent

(6,665 posts)
129. I don't know about the rest of you, but...
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:37 AM
Nov 2024

I had no idea that a trump win would turn Jack Smith’s case into a cartoonish capitulation.

Beowulf42

(239 posts)
133. No Sh*t
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 12:36 PM
Nov 2024

I've been saying this for years. The rich are different from us simply because they have enough money and power to survive whatever the f*@k is done to our government. The rest of us are at the mercy of the whims of those appointed by that said Oligarchy.

Catherine Vincent

(34,545 posts)
135. I followed him fir a while on Twitter
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 01:37 PM
Nov 2024

I asked in another thread if anyone figured out who was behind that account.

magicarpet

(17,613 posts)
137. The name difference does not discount or discredit the value of the message conveyed.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 02:24 PM
Nov 2024

It is still a solid explanation of how we arrived at this point and the fascistic forces working against us to make this nightmare all possible.

I look forward to more communications from this well spoken individual whoever they may be. It reads like a structural engineering blueprint of how how the super structure of American Fascism came to be,... I-beam by I-beam, rivot by rivot, and weld by weld.

A solid message to ponder.

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