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Yavin4

(36,936 posts)
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:19 PM Nov 2024

Trump is intentionally nominating sex offenders for high profile jobs for a reason.

He's sending a message to men (specifically, White men) that sexual assault will be overlooked and not a deal breaker for career advancement. He's sending a message to all women, "You're not safe from sexual assault. The only way that you will be safe is to get married."

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Trump is intentionally nominating sex offenders for high profile jobs for a reason. (Original Post) Yavin4 Nov 2024 OP
Yes, our "protector". Telling young men, you get to rape girls, and make them have your babies Walleye Nov 2024 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Rebl2 Nov 2024 #9
Unmarried, career girls. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #11
I'm sure Warren Jeffs considered himself a "protector" for all his wives Montauk6 Nov 2024 #35
I agree, it is a clear message. Being a rapist is now a valuable credential for a reason. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #2
Ah, the good ol Soviet way. :sarcasm: speak easy Nov 2024 #17
Yes rape was a weapon of war. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #20
I strongly request that every female who passes this way ReRe Nov 2024 #38
Company? jls4561 Nov 2024 #3
Being married doesn't protect a woman from SA. OMGWTF Nov 2024 #4
RFK, Jr also, it's a club of degenerates and miscreants. madaboutharry Nov 2024 #5
People need to jump on this hard. Get this fucker out of contention for HHS ASAP. Karasu Nov 2024 #15
He is also humiliating Senate Republicans by forcing them to debase themselves RockRaven Nov 2024 #6
They already did that to malaise Nov 2024 #14
TCF likes to force worms to crawl, no matter how enthusiastically they have RockRaven Nov 2024 #21
That's entirely their fault. They aren't being forced JI7 Nov 2024 #49
Government offices are going to reek mr715 Nov 2024 #7
Front-loading Trexmaster Nov 2024 #8
Even then they're not safe. Trump tried to cuckold his friends. surfered Nov 2024 #10
That's why they're talking about scrapping background checks on the nominees. The allegorical oracle Nov 2024 #12
John Bolton shocked me by going on record that background checks are essential before confirmation hearings can begin. soldierant Nov 2024 #16
Could just be plain old stillcool Nov 2024 #13
He meant to say he'd protect men who assault women, but the sound system glitched, tclambert Nov 2024 #18
Sexual assault is not unknown in marriages. NNadir Nov 2024 #19
They don't consider it sexual assault within a marriage. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #22
I don't know who "they" are. Incel Maggats? I consider it sexual assault. I'm sure I'm hardly alone. NNadir Nov 2024 #23
"they" MAGA men, Christian Nationalist men, etc. n/t Yavin4 Nov 2024 #24
It's a crime nationwide since 1993 Diraven Nov 2024 #27
They sure do. yardwork Nov 2024 #46
Who's "they?" VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #30
Marriage won't keep women safe, either. GoCubsGo Nov 2024 #25
They will prosecute men who rape married women who are not their wives. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #26
You actually think they'd prosecute a guy who raped a Democrat's wife? GoCubsGo Nov 2024 #29
SA and rape are typically prosecuted as state crimes VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #31
It is his retribution for women not supporting him. "i am your retribution" doc03 Nov 2024 #28
THIS. calimary Nov 2024 #32
... I thought djt said,.. magicarpet Nov 2024 #55
I always assume he isnt sending any message Johonny Nov 2024 #33
Its that but its deeper Cosmocat Nov 2024 #53
LOL Skittles Nov 2024 #34
As I said earlier... Yavin4 Nov 2024 #36
Sure, conservatives don't...but fortunately, anyone with any actual understanding of the subject knows better. Karasu Nov 2024 #37
Getting married is the WORST thing a woman can do to feel safe. valleyrogue Nov 2024 #39
K&R UTUSN Nov 2024 #40
Since when has marriage ever made women safe as a group? Maru Kitteh Nov 2024 #41
Not saying that it has. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #44
And because he's one.. he wants Company. Cha Nov 2024 #42
Like a powerful neodymium magnet djt attracts them,... magicarpet Nov 2024 #56
You Can't make up this Shit.. Cha Nov 2024 #59
Looks like ReRe Nov 2024 #43
The GOP has a simple, direct message. It's not complicated. yardwork Nov 2024 #45
This is standard Christian Nationalist thought. Yavin4 Nov 2024 #47
It's also the basis of Putin's approach in Russia. yardwork Nov 2024 #48
God's Will is paramount. magicarpet Nov 2024 #57
I interpreted it more as Mutually Assured Destruction. Ontheroad Nov 2024 #50
The implications could be worse. /nt bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #51
Whether you like it or not. ZonkerHarris Nov 2024 #52
Trump is bringing pedophiles to Justice. Jk23 Nov 2024 #54
Has Alan Dershowitz chimed in on this yet? Hugin Nov 2024 #58
Or people who can be blackmailed and controlled. kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #60
Trump has one Danascot Nov 2024 #61

Walleye

(37,846 posts)
1. Yes, our "protector". Telling young men, you get to rape girls, and make them have your babies
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:20 PM
Nov 2024

Response to Walleye (Reply #1)

Montauk6

(8,852 posts)
35. I'm sure Warren Jeffs considered himself a "protector" for all his wives
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:48 PM
Nov 2024

It's the cult leader's creed after all.

Irish_Dem

(63,981 posts)
2. I agree, it is a clear message. Being a rapist is now a valuable credential for a reason.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:21 PM
Nov 2024

ETA: When Putin invaded Ukraine he gave Russian troops large amounts of alcohol and viagra
with instructions to rape as many civilian women and children as possible.

This was done for a clear reason to send a message to Ukraine.

We are getting a similar message from Trump.

ReRe

(11,208 posts)
38. I strongly request that every female who passes this way
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:18 PM
Nov 2024

reads in full the historical article which you have linked to! Yes, it's a tad long, but it's

one of the most historically informative pieces I've read in a LONG time. It relates directly back

to the subject of sexual assault of German women by the Russian army back in 1945.

Thank you speak easy and The Guardian!!!!

OMGWTF

(4,564 posts)
4. Being married doesn't protect a woman from SA.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:25 PM
Nov 2024

More and more women are adopting the South Korean 4B movement -- no dating, no sex, no marriage, no babies. It's the only way to fight the patriarchy. Do not participate.

madaboutharry

(41,629 posts)
5. RFK, Jr also, it's a club of degenerates and miscreants.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:25 PM
Nov 2024
Sexual Assault Accusations Are Likely in the Future
By MoveOn. Friday, July 26 2024

RFK Jr: “It’s quite possible. I’m 70 years old. I’ve lived a very rambunctious life.”

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, MoveOn Political Action condemns Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for confirming that more accusations of sexual harassment and assault are likely to come out against him in the future.

In a one-on-one interview, CBS correspondent Warren Garrett probed RFK Jr. about allegations of sexual assault allegations lodged against him by a former babysitter for the Kennedy family.


https://front.moveon.org/rfk-jr-confirms-more-potential-sexual-assault-accusations-are-likely-in-the-future/

RockRaven

(16,859 posts)
6. He is also humiliating Senate Republicans by forcing them to debase themselves
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:28 PM
Nov 2024

by confirming these people. It is an assertion of dominance over Senate GrOPers, who will not have the fortitude to reject all of the inappropriate nominees (and may not have the fortitude to reject any).

RockRaven

(16,859 posts)
21. TCF likes to force worms to crawl, no matter how enthusiastically they have
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:17 PM
Nov 2024

already shouted "I'm a worm! I'm a worm!" to the heavens. Something about the public display of dominance/abjection.

mr715

(1,359 posts)
7. Government offices are going to reek
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:30 PM
Nov 2024

Read Gaetz is a walking Axe can.


An adult using axe!

Trexmaster

(29 posts)
8. Front-loading
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:31 PM
Nov 2024

There's a thought process thrown around that he's nominating all the bad apples just so they'll be intentionally shot down in order to nominate oranges.

allegorical oracle

(4,055 posts)
12. That's why they're talking about scrapping background checks on the nominees. The
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:47 PM
Nov 2024

Senate -- THIS sitting Senate that holds a majority -- must insist that background checks be made. I'm going to phone mine tomorrow.

soldierant

(8,181 posts)
16. John Bolton shocked me by going on record that background checks are essential before confirmation hearings can begin.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:11 PM
Nov 2024

This is according to Crooks and Liars. He specifically named Gates and Gabbard.

Never, ever expected to agree with John Bolton on anything,

stillcool

(33,169 posts)
13. Could just be plain old
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 08:49 PM
Nov 2024

mind-fucking. Can't imagine doing a better job of messing with the minds of hundreds of millions of people in one fell swoop.

tclambert

(11,153 posts)
18. He meant to say he'd protect men who assault women, but the sound system glitched,
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:14 PM
Nov 2024

and a few key words didn't come through. So blame the whole election on some bad microphones. Yeah, that must be the explanation.

Yavin4

(36,936 posts)
22. They don't consider it sexual assault within a marriage.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:20 PM
Nov 2024

It's only sexual assault if it's a man assaulting a woman married to someone else.

NNadir

(35,139 posts)
23. I don't know who "they" are. Incel Maggats? I consider it sexual assault. I'm sure I'm hardly alone.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:27 PM
Nov 2024

Diraven

(1,242 posts)
27. It's a crime nationwide since 1993
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:53 PM
Nov 2024

Conservatives probably want to roll that back though.

GoCubsGo

(33,454 posts)
25. Marriage won't keep women safe, either.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:38 PM
Nov 2024

As long as you're a woman, you're fair game to these motherfuckers.

Yavin4

(36,936 posts)
26. They will prosecute men who rape married women who are not their wives.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 09:41 PM
Nov 2024

Bc to them, that's a property crime.

GoCubsGo

(33,454 posts)
29. You actually think they'd prosecute a guy who raped a Democrat's wife?
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:09 PM
Nov 2024

Or, the wife of any man in a group they don't like? I have news for you...

VMA131Marine

(4,840 posts)
31. SA and rape are typically prosecuted as state crimes
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:16 PM
Nov 2024

So they better not try that in states run by Democrats

magicarpet

(17,613 posts)
55. ... I thought djt said,..
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:31 PM
Nov 2024

.... he was the protector of women,... weather they fucking like it or not.
Do not contradict djt.

Johonny

(22,763 posts)
33. I always assume he isnt sending any message
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 10:37 PM
Nov 2024

And that he is just a moron that is too stupid to vet anyone properly. He's on FOX, he likes me, he kissed my ass during the phone call. All boxes checked.

Cosmocat

(15,092 posts)
53. Its that but its deeper
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 01:52 PM
Nov 2024

You don't give him enough credit as a master manipulator.

He does these things to force his party and followers to justify them, which keeps them committed to the alternative reality he had created for them AND to stress and break the normative systems if government to continue to erode the norms, checks and balances, generally, but also toward his agenda to overstay his stay.

He doesn't do this in a deep thinking, strategic way, but he absolutely has a reptilian instinct that to do these things purposely.

Karasu

(554 posts)
37. Sure, conservatives don't...but fortunately, anyone with any actual understanding of the subject knows better.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:05 PM
Nov 2024

It really does seem like they're trying to normalize spousal rape all over again. Just like the "good ol' days" of God-fearing 'Merica.

valleyrogue

(1,667 posts)
39. Getting married is the WORST thing a woman can do to feel safe.
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 11:24 PM
Nov 2024

If women want to be safe, they should never date, live with, or marry a man.

The notion men "protect" women is the biggest lie patriarchy tries to sell women.

magicarpet

(17,613 posts)
56. Like a powerful neodymium magnet djt attracts them,...
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:43 PM
Nov 2024

Pedophiles,
Rapists,
Sexual assaulters,
Perverts,
And
Mysogynous toxic males.

Cha

(307,325 posts)
59. You Can't make up this Shit..
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 03:52 PM
Nov 2024

But here We are living the NIGHTMARE 💀☠️

🕯️🕊️💙🇺🇸

yardwork

(65,470 posts)
45. The GOP has a simple, direct message. It's not complicated.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 09:36 AM
Nov 2024

It's this:

White men are superior to all other people. White women get their status and protection from being married to white men. Everybody else is a servant. The definition of "white" is fluid and you can buy your way into it by joining our club. This is biblical. Jesus/Allah/etc taught it, so it's good.

People who fight against this natural, God-ordained order of things are "the enemy within" and must be destroyed.

The white man rules the country just like the white husband rules the family. The strength of our country depends on everybody obeying the white male ruler. Disagreement must be destroyed or else we'll all die. There is no room for weakness, like caring for the old, the disabled, or anyone who weakens our society. Children must be raised with an iron fist so that they will be strong.

The institutions that promote helping the weak must be destroyed, because they have made our nation weak. Special education; mental health care; prosecutions of sex crimes and domestic violence; laws requiring wheelchair accessibility; teaching history that undermines America's great story of how white men, sent by God, forged a nation from the wilderness; equal opportunity employment laws; government regulations of all kinds - these are all "woke" practices that weakened our country by going against the God-ordained natural order of things.

Yavin4

(36,936 posts)
47. This is standard Christian Nationalist thought.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 10:14 AM
Nov 2024

Which is now the core philosophy of the Republican party.

yardwork

(65,470 posts)
48. It's also the basis of Putin's approach in Russia.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 10:15 AM
Nov 2024

It's an ancient way to coerce people into giving up their rights.

magicarpet

(17,613 posts)
57. God's Will is paramount.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 03:06 PM
Nov 2024

He and he alone decides God's Plan for human kind. We have no right to intercede or change that - Plan. We must play the hand God dealt us individually and not deviate from God's Devine Design.

Child birth is a perfect example,... if God's Plan Wills it to be successful that is dandy. If a failure, it must run its course absent any human interventions. Any consideration for an abortion is strictly off the table.

Again,.. God's Plan is paramount.
Our Christo-Fascist legislative bodies should decide all this in the name of God's Grand Plans for humanity.

Amen.

Ontheroad

(10 posts)
50. I interpreted it more as Mutually Assured Destruction.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 12:15 PM
Nov 2024

He has material he can use to blackmail them if they don't push his agenda. And they likely have sex crimes info on him they can reveal, but they are less likely to if they're taking a cushy job with kickbacks from him.

 

Jk23

(455 posts)
54. Trump is bringing pedophiles to Justice.
Sat Nov 16, 2024, 02:22 PM
Nov 2024

Well the justice department jobs fair... but still

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