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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere was difficulty linking to an important Daily Kos article this morning...
...and I even had difficulty sourcing the original article from Archive, but I have finally been successful getting that non-paywall link.
Here it is:
Rigged? Computer Security Experts In Dual "Duty To Warn Letters" Urge Harris To Demand Hand Recount
by Kevin McKinney
Saturday, Nov. 16, 2024 12:09:45am PST
https://archive.is/YXLVg
Ford_Prefect
(8,202 posts)In a number of states.
Things that make you go hmmm?
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(18,072 posts)ShazzieB
(18,704 posts)bdamomma
(66,496 posts)let's not do that. We will be like Argentina, if we continue to let things slide. Just my opinion.
Sogo
(5,784 posts)I donated until it hurt for this election....I want her to pursue this!!!!
How do we communicate this desire to her?
Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)...and we can always write tons of emails directly to her campaign, and even the Biden/Harris Whitehouse account.
But this is urgent, so I think lots of social media attention would probably be most effective.
Sogo
(5,784 posts)Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)VP Harris at the Whitehouse:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/vicepresident/
Contact the Harris/Walz campaign:
https://kamalaharris.com/contact-us/
David Boyle
(375 posts)Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)japple
(10,334 posts)very easy to do.
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(18,072 posts)Silent Type
(6,720 posts)Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)...I believe that the connection of musk's company to official election processes is the issue whether some people knew about it or not.
I also think the 600,000 number HAS to be an estimate, becuase we wouldn't know that final number until recount verifications were done, which is what is only now being called for.
Linda ladeewolf
(413 posts)Snopes is at least partly owned by right wingers. They mostly tell the truth, but I wouldnt bet my life on it. Might want to check out who owns it.
nmmi
(68 posts)Silent Type
(6,720 posts)Im all then. Until then, Im skeptical.
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(18,072 posts)nmmi
(68 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2024, 08:06 PM - Edit history (1)
and he seemed to stick to factual stories (they also appeared in mainstream media too) and not chase conspiracy theories, or speculating.
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(18,072 posts)questionseverything
(10,175 posts)markodochartaigh
(2,113 posts)He has been covering the Coffee County Georgia scandal since the beginning. His Bradcast is on Progressive Voices and many radio stations.
questionseverything
(10,175 posts)Silent Type
(6,720 posts)the software was changed for 2022 and 2024. Obfuscation is what I expect from the other side, not ours.
markodochartaigh
(2,113 posts)of a plot that successfully compromised the integrity of voting machines obfuscation.
And Raffensperger refused "to make changes and fix a documented issue with the voting machines."
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/23/brad-raffensperger-georgia-dominion-voting-00103298
Silent Type
(6,720 posts)markodochartaigh
(2,113 posts)Hardly ancient history.
Silent Type
(6,720 posts)markodochartaigh
(2,113 posts)it says that the software has not been changed. And whether or not the software has been changed, there is still the issue that local Republican party officials (no both sides here) illegally accessed, stole, and compromised voting software.
Silent Type
(6,720 posts)markodochartaigh
(2,113 posts)say that 1+1=2. Even a stopped clock is correct twice a day. Are you saying that everything that Musk has ever said is incorrect?
Silent Type
(6,720 posts)markodochartaigh
(2,113 posts)about the Coffee County theft since I first heard about it more than a year ago on Brad Friedman's excellent show.
As for what Musk says, I haven't heard him say anything about the theft, and I really don't care what he thinks about it.
questionseverything
(10,175 posts)nmmi
(68 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 16, 2024, 08:03 PM - Edit history (1)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr75mpkm7nroEdit to add Yes, this is a 2020 election story just so I don't get accused of "obfuscating",
Emrys
(7,949 posts)When folks were having problems finding it, I did my own search on Kos and found only an article from yesterday from Bradblog with a similar title that covered a fair bit of the same ground, but no sign of the article linked in the OP.
Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)It was only later this afternoon that I was even able to archive it on archive.is (even archiving it didn't work for hours) and then link to it here: https://archive.is/YXLVg
That just adds to the suspicions of foul-play as far as I'm concerned.
Emrys
(7,949 posts)I haven't visited Kos much at all over the years (never got on with their interface, it's always seemed very cliquey, and anything important posted there tends to find its way onto DU anyway), so I just wondered whether posts there just going *POOF* was a normal occurrence.
Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)But the difficulty I had earlier today trying to archive it on archive.is (I've never had any dificulty like that before) started to set off alarms bells for me.
questionseverything
(10,175 posts)Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)Ford_Prefect
(8,202 posts)Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)Looks like they fixed whatever the problem was!
Emrys
(7,949 posts)That link's to the Bradblog article, the one in your OP's by Kevin McKinney.
AllyCat
(17,113 posts)Important. Something is wrong. How was there record turnout! record new registrations! and then FEWER votes overall?
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(18,072 posts)....hopefully these calls to do some serious deep-checking of everything will be heard, and acted on.
usonian
(13,942 posts)I posted link updates there.
To wit:
Beyond Highbrow reports (from an archived post that bypasses the substack paywall)
https://archive.ph/jQb34#selection-629.0-629.181
Preliminary Results Indicates Suspicion of Yet Another Republican Stolen Election Via Voting Machines Via 6.6 Point Anomaly; Evidence of Republican Election Theft in Prior Elections
If thats true then the only possible conclusion is that there was massive Republican election fraud via voting machines in this election. I conclude that Kamala Harris won the popular vote.
more at the link.
A link in the OP to Steven Spoonamore's spoutible account is not working, but his thread is here:
https://spoutible.com/Spoonamore
Also, he is still up on twitler, and the threads are visible.
https://x.com/Spoonamore
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(18,072 posts)proud patriot
(101,152 posts)Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)...if there WAS anything illicit going on, we need to know about in time to correct it before December 11!
Jack Valentino
(1,354 posts)but I read your internet archive link, and it is disturbing.
I have been pushing back against the position that this election was stolen--
but now I'm not so sure about that....
I always did think that the 2004 election was stolen, and that Kerry actually won Ohio,
but there was a lot of vote-switching done by the machines...
Ironically, it was Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s article in Rolling Stone which proved the case to me--
outlining the fact that a far-left Ohio Supreme Court candidate actually out-polled John Kerry
in 10 southern Ohio counties in the "official" results-- an unheard-of anomily
which supposes that many voters chose Bush,
and then voted for a far-left Supreme Court candidate...
Thanks for posting this. I now support a recount.
I'm not saying that I believe that this election was stolen--
I would just like to be satisfied that the "results" are the actual TRUTH.
Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)You can now find the article on the Daily Kos website here:
https://www.dailykos.com/story/2024/11/14/2286362/-Computer-Sec-Experts-Ask-Harris-to-Seek-Hand-Counts-After-Vote-System-Breaches-BradCast-11-14-24
Jack Valentino
(1,354 posts)the original diary.
Thanks.
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(18,072 posts)Jack Valentino
(1,354 posts)'election denial' is considered to be one of those....
even if Democrats do it--- they don't want their site to be comparable to all the right-wing sites who denied the results of the 2020 election....
That is why that first story was removed--- I am a longtime member there, I know their mindset.
Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)Whatever, at least we were able to get the letters out to the public.
Sogo
(5,784 posts)According to this video, he doesn't believe there was any fraud in the election.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/132249283
Think. Again.
(18,072 posts)Which I agree with, but that still leaves all the questions that are raised in the two separate 'Duty to Warn' letters unanswered.
babsbunny
(8,500 posts)So, we have to fight like hell!!!! We are fighting the enemy of the United States of America!