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Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts) Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:30 PM Nov 16

I'm just wondering why "our side" always has to set the example for democratic leadership, civility, adherence to the

RULE OF LAW FCS, while the other side can do everything up to and including to a coup and coalesce behind a convicted felon, adjudicated rapist, Putin-loving, Kim Jong loving, Victor Orban loving, Xi loving and gaslighting "the enemy within" (that would be us.)
We have to decide if we are going to actively resist, knowing the Orange One would LOVE to impose martial law, the Insurrection Act, and whatever else for the sole sake of bloodshed, punishment and to be like his DFF's. "Why can't we just shoot them?"
I wish Washington or Lincoln could come back and smack this motherfucker square in the face for what he is advocating, embracing and projecting throughout the world.
Embarrassed for our country, afraid for our allies and know full well that he is in bed up to his ass with Vlad and Friends. That should be the show. Fuck Fox and Friends. Let's do Vlad and Friends and cut through the façade of any faux loyalty to the U.S. and our Constitution.
Orange Boy and entire (prove me wrong) GOP are in to burn us to the ground. And MSM just whistles past the graveyard. Disgusting.

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I'm just wondering why "our side" always has to set the example for democratic leadership, civility, adherence to the (Original Post) Evolve Dammit Nov 16 OP

Because more than half of this damn country ARE IDIOTS!!!!! a kennedy Nov 16 #1

And ten MILLION did not vote that did in 2020?? Is that accurate Evolve Dammit Nov 16 #4

Have you seen this? Loupe Garoue Nov 16 #2

Yep. Lunabell Nov 16 #12

I think people might think the two parties are somehow equal stillcool Nov 16 #3

Not sure what you mean. Dems have always followed the Rule of Law, peaceful transfer of power, even in 2000. Evolve Dammit Nov 16 #7

Because the democrats are the traditionalist. republianmushroom Nov 16 #5

Not sure "traditionalist" fits for Dems? Always way more progressive than Repukes. Evolve Dammit Nov 16 #9

You are right. hadEnuf Nov 16 #6

I thought that message was clear this election. ??? -nt CrispyQ Nov 17 #26

Sure, it was becoming clear for a few months but obviously not for everybody. hadEnuf Nov 17 #30

because WE are treated like women and POC Skittles Nov 16 #8

Hence, we are the enemy within, by virtue of our gender and race? Evolve Dammit Nov 16 #10

Trump LITERALLY CALLED US THE ENEMY WITHIN Skittles Nov 16 #11

that's how I took it. Evolve Dammit Nov 16 #13

that's how I read it. Evolve Dammit Nov 17 #25

"according to" them. 😑 Projection from Drumphf & Co for their authoritarian fevor electric_blue68 Nov 16 #22

MSM has made it so, IMO mcar Nov 16 #14

Crystal clear now. Harris/Walz ran a really good campaign. She had to be flawless, he is lawless. Not a peep anymore. Evolve Dammit Nov 16 #17

Yep, and now we're being told we need to "listen" mcar Nov 16 #20

How much free coverage has Trump gotten on the news compared to Clinton, Biden, & Harris? CrispyQ Nov 17 #28

Nooooo...it's the Democratic identity messaging. Or some such nonsense. travelingthrulife Nov 16 #15

it is nonsense. Total BS. Evolve Dammit Nov 16 #18

Funny how Retrumplicans lock on the male, white vote maxrandb Nov 17 #29

Because we believe in those things while the other side does not ColinC Nov 16 #16

yep. That's the truth Evolve Dammit Nov 16 #19

It's about tribalism. Learned that when I read Lord of the Flies and studied the allegorical oracle Nov 16 #21

Because if WE don't hold it together, it will fall apart for all of us. Intractable Nov 16 #23

That's what makes us a "side." nolabear Nov 16 #24

Co-signed Blue_Tires Nov 17 #27

a kennedy

(32,416 posts)

1. Because more than half of this damn country ARE IDIOTS!!!!!

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:35 PM

Nov 16

🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 and sorry, I’M YELLING……I AM NEVER GOING TO GET OVER THIS….EVER.

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)

4. And ten MILLION did not vote that did in 2020?? Is that accurate

Reply to a kennedy (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:39 PM

Nov 16

Loupe Garoue

(77 posts)

2. Have you seen this?

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:37 PM

Nov 16

https://open.substack.com/pub/spoonamore/p/duty-to-warn-letter-to-vp-harris?r=d569l&utm_medium=ios

Lunabell

(7,073 posts)

12. Yep.

Reply to Loupe Garoue (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:55 PM

Nov 16

It's worth a look.

stillcool

(32,816 posts)

3. I think people might think the two parties are somehow equal

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:39 PM

Nov 16

that what one can do the other one can as well.

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)

7. Not sure what you mean. Dems have always followed the Rule of Law, peaceful transfer of power, even in 2000.

Reply to stillcool (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:42 PM

Nov 16

republianmushroom

(18,258 posts)

5. Because the democrats are the traditionalist.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:42 PM

Nov 16

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)

9. Not sure "traditionalist" fits for Dems? Always way more progressive than Repukes.

Reply to republianmushroom (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:46 PM

Nov 16

hadEnuf

(2,806 posts)

6. You are right.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:42 PM

Nov 16

We need to come together, in lockstep, and battle these fascist bastards as a force. No more of this "trying to herd cats" stuff.

They have declared war on us and the country and we need to make a stand and say NO.

NO should be our mantra.

CrispyQ

(38,647 posts)

26. I thought that message was clear this election. ??? -nt

Reply to hadEnuf (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:28 PM

Nov 17

hadEnuf

(2,806 posts)

30. Sure, it was becoming clear for a few months but obviously not for everybody.

Reply to CrispyQ (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 17, 2024, 04:42 PM

Nov 17

Going forward we need to become more proactive, inflexible and stand our ground. We also need a media that is not censored nor propagandist in order to effectively combat the RW disinformation machine. And democrats need to unite like we never have before.

At this stage of the game that may sound lofty, but we have nothing to lose.

Skittles

(160,500 posts)

8. because WE are treated like women and POC

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:42 PM

Nov 16

THEY are treated like white men.

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)

10. Hence, we are the enemy within, by virtue of our gender and race?

Reply to Skittles (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:47 PM

Nov 16

Skittles

(160,500 posts)

11. Trump LITERALLY CALLED US THE ENEMY WITHIN

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 06:50 PM

Nov 16

that essentially applies to ANYONE WHO DOESN'T GOOSE STEP

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)

13. that's how I took it.

Reply to Skittles (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 07:06 PM

Nov 16

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)

25. that's how I read it.

Reply to Skittles (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:25 PM

Nov 17

electric_blue68

(18,969 posts)

22. "according to" them. 😑 Projection from Drumphf & Co for their authoritarian fevor

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 10:53 PM

Nov 16

mcar

(43,647 posts)

14. MSM has made it so, IMO

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 07:08 PM

Nov 16

Democrats have to be perfect, Rs get a pass. Over and over.

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)

17. Crystal clear now. Harris/Walz ran a really good campaign. She had to be flawless, he is lawless. Not a peep anymore.

Reply to mcar (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 07:13 PM

Nov 16

mcar

(43,647 posts)

20. Yep, and now we're being told we need to "listen"

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 07:48 PM

Nov 16

to those who voted against us and against their own self-interests because...economy?

CrispyQ

(38,647 posts)

28. How much free coverage has Trump gotten on the news compared to Clinton, Biden, & Harris?

Reply to mcar (Reply #14)

Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:34 PM

Nov 17

How many times did they report on Harris while showing pics of Trump. If you had the volume off you'd think it was all Trump. Ugh. And he's so fucking ugly.

travelingthrulife

(1,016 posts)

15. Nooooo...it's the Democratic identity messaging. Or some such nonsense.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 07:12 PM

Nov 16

Identity messaging is pointing out that all US citizens are supposedly equal. Why is that a bad message? Isn't that a cornerstone of our country's identity?

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)

18. it is nonsense. Total BS.

Reply to travelingthrulife (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 07:14 PM

Nov 16

maxrandb

(16,023 posts)

29. Funny how Retrumplicans lock on the male, white vote

Reply to travelingthrulife (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:39 PM

Nov 17

is NEVER described as "identity politics".

Almost seems purposeful, doesn't it?

ColinC

(10,998 posts)

16. Because we believe in those things while the other side does not

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 07:13 PM

Nov 16

Evolve Dammit

(19,216 posts)

19. yep. That's the truth

Reply to ColinC (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 07:15 PM

Nov 16

allegorical oracle

(3,490 posts)

21. It's about tribalism. Learned that when I read Lord of the Flies and studied the

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 08:01 PM

Nov 16

Crusades. Problem is Dems tend to think that right makes might; Repugs think might makes right.

Intractable

(631 posts)

23. Because if WE don't hold it together, it will fall apart for all of us.

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 10:57 PM

Nov 16

And that may be inevitable.

The only thing that will save us now is the incompetence of Trump and his people when they try to change things.

There will be lots of infighting and jockeying for position within his administration.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)

24. That's what makes us a "side."

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sat Nov 16, 2024, 11:42 PM

Nov 16

We believe these things are what civilization is based on. And we seek to make laws that help that kind of civilization flourish. Them? Well, you know.

Blue_Tires

(57,038 posts)

27. Co-signed

Reply to Evolve Dammit (Original post)

Sun Nov 17, 2024, 03:28 PM

Nov 17

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