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SharonClark

(10,323 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:49 AM Monday

Elon Musk's X finally has a true competitor -- and it's actually pretty great

Why I'm sick of X — and optimistic about Bluesky
The problem with X is that it has become completely unusable.

By Zeeshan Aleem, MSNBC Opinion Writer/Editor
Journalists are migrating there en masse. Celebrity actors and musicians are flooding in. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., has joined the party, and the New York City mayor’s office is ordering agencies to set up camp. They’re calling it the #Xodus, and it’s happening fast.

Millions of social media junkies and power users are pivoting from using X, Elon Musk’s social media platform, to setting up accounts on Bluesky, a buzzy platform that resembles the earlier days of Twitter before Musk rendered it a technically unusable mess.

Bluesky was developed in recent years by Jack Dorsey, a co-founder of Twitter, as a kind of open and decentralized alternative to Twitter. (Dorsey has since left the board of Bluesky.) In terms of the basic user experience and design of the site, it looks a lot like Twitter used to in the pre-Musk era. Bluesky had an invite-only beta launch in 2023, and in February it became available to the general public. While it has grown throughout the year, it has seen a meteoric explosion in sign-ups after the election. And with media organizations and politicians now setting up accounts on the site, it looks like Bluesky is exuding “official new alternative to Twitter” vibes.
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source: https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/blue-sky-leaving-x-social-twitter-musk-rcna180359?cid=eml_mda_20241118&user_email=95d3878287e11d7327ccf871e1ee65a4613202f47c00e15603ce32732c551bef

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Elon Musk's X finally has a true competitor -- and it's actually pretty great (Original Post) SharonClark Monday OP
I never went on Twitter. True Blue American Monday #1
Next mission,... magicarpet Monday #2
then after that, get somebody (not Bezos) to provide an alternative to starlink n/t mtngirl47 Monday #12
Alternatives to Starlink are on the way and so are the new problems with them. LastDemocratInSC Monday #14
Also earth based research will be impacted Old Crank Monday #18
Fuck Starlink and all its future competitors. I hope they all fail spectacularly. hunter Monday #19
I never signed on to twitter but there were a few people who I would check sometimes JI7 Monday #3
Bluesky is much like early Twitter, but I don't know if people use it the same way. CoopersDad Monday #4
Dorsey et al. first developed Twitter as a way for board members of podcaster Odeo to brainstorm in real time Emrys Monday #9
I am on it for one week, it's great. CanonRay Monday #5
I'd like to follow you. Message me your user name if you're interested or follow me and I'll follow you back. Native Monday #15
Same here. Arrgh Monday #17
Same Sweet Freedom Monday #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Ms. Toad Monday #6
I killed the bird last night. Ms. Toad Monday #7
Thank you for spoons article Wild blueberry Monday #22
Had account but never used Xitter except clicking on posts here & in news. Disabled it & joined Bluesky UTUSN Monday #8
Unsolicited followers Sweet Freedom Monday #31
I only hope it remains faithful to the truth and facts and good solid information to raise the level of discourse Jit423 Monday #10
The block feature on Bluesky is powerful Horse with no Name Monday #11
I don't disagree with the potential here for Bluesky ToxMarz Monday #13
i've been on bluesky 18 months. it is great Takket Monday #16
It's great... orwell Monday #20
I'm on Bluesky! DownriverDem Monday #21
Thanks! I just followed you. :) /nt Sweet Freedom Monday #25
Just signed up! WinstonSmith4740 Monday #23
They have mass block lists that are great. Sweet Freedom Monday #27
It's really, really easy to block MAGAs and Nazis there. mainer Monday #26
I also like the fact the CEO is a young woman. So is the COO. mainer Monday #28
Hal Sparks and Cliff Schecter are having a GREAT discussion about this GoCubsGo Monday #29
the best competitor for X etc. is real life Oliver Bolliver Butt Monday #30
This! nt jfz9580m Monday #32

True Blue American

(18,161 posts)
1. I never went on Twitter.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:54 AM
Monday

I see people are going on Bluesky. May try it but with DU anda couple of others not sure I need another, but will check it out thanks

LastDemocratInSC

(3,829 posts)
14. Alternatives to Starlink are on the way and so are the new problems with them.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:33 AM
Monday

Amazon has Project Kuiper which will require about 3,000 satellites. Starlink has about 6,000 in orbit now with about 6,000 more planned and a possible expansion up to about 30,000 total.

Other alternatives include OneWeb, Telstra, ViaSat and TeleSat and they will all require large numbers of satellites to succeed.

See the problem? Is there enough room in low earth orbit for all of these? If collisions occur, the high speed debris will cause more collisions and could lead to a catastrophic situation where getting any spacecraft beyond LEO would be quite risky for people and machines.

Kessler Syndrome:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

Old Crank

(4,644 posts)
18. Also earth based research will be impacted
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:51 AM
Monday

by the thousands of shiny things flying around in space.
Getting in the way of telescopic viewing.

hunter

(38,924 posts)
19. Fuck Starlink and all its future competitors. I hope they all fail spectacularly.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:02 PM
Monday

These kinds of communication systems will only accelerate the destruction of earth's remaining wilderness areas.

Universal communications, those that blanket the earth's entire surface ought to be reserved for emergency services only.

Routine communications can be served with fiber optic cable and cellphone towers, even in rural areas.

My great grandparents ranch, which is about as far away as you can get from a Wal-Mart in the 48 contiguous states, got electric and phone service as part of FDR's New Deal. Accomplishing the same with high speed internet over fiber would be easy in comparison.

JI7

(90,524 posts)
3. I never signed on to twitter but there were a few people who I would check sometimes
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:06 AM
Monday

but it seems like immediately after he got control of twitter the comments were just full of trolls and spamming .

CoopersDad

(2,866 posts)
4. Bluesky is much like early Twitter, but I don't know if people use it the same way.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:10 AM
Monday

IIRC, Twitter when if first started was a platform for reading local breaking news before local or national news could get to it.

It was like crowdsourced news. If a fire broke out at a stadium during a game, Twitter had it first, as an example.

Emrys

(7,941 posts)
9. Dorsey et al. first developed Twitter as a way for board members of podcaster Odeo to brainstorm in real time
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:46 AM
Monday

As it expanded, the initial applications included researchers sharing thoughts and observations as they went about their business.

Only later did it develop into what you've described.

CanonRay

(14,858 posts)
5. I am on it for one week, it's great.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:18 AM
Monday

I was never on Twitter. I get early news stories, plus no trolls and bots...they get quickly blocked and bounced.

Native

(6,554 posts)
15. I'd like to follow you. Message me your user name if you're interested or follow me and I'll follow you back.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:37 AM
Monday

I'm raycing on BS.

Arrgh

(8 posts)
17. Same here.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:44 AM
Monday

I was never on X/Twitter, thank god, but Bluesky is quite impressive. I highly recommend it.

Response to SharonClark (Original post)

Ms. Toad

(35,516 posts)
7. I killed the bird last night.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:33 AM
Monday

Because Twitter still is a vitally important site for communities which can't meet in person - especially some portions of the disability community - I have been reluctant to abandon it entirely. It's sort of like public school - for decades, private schools have been stealing resources, students, faculty, etc from public schools, shifting the population to largely those who can't afford to go elsewhere, leaving public schools a deteriorated shell of their former selves, for those without the means to escape to greener pasture

My child went to public school, because I didn't want to contribute to the destruction of public schools for those who had no other choice. (We did move into a district that was not failing, however.)

Many in the disability community don't have the spoons to move (especially not repeatedly), find their people, and feel safe in another platform.

I decided to kill my Twitter account last night, in part in response to an active discussion among many in the disability community that it may be time to move, regardless of the cost.

** Spoons, in case you aren't familiar with the term: https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://lymphoma-action.org.uk/sites/default/files/media/documents/2020-05/Spoon%2520theory%2520by%2520Christine%2520Miserandino.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwijie3Fm-aJAxV2MlkFHfV-KloQFnoECAgQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0QfE85w899zKX7suJrWZBo

UTUSN

(72,401 posts)
8. Had account but never used Xitter except clicking on posts here & in news. Disabled it & joined Bluesky
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:45 AM
Monday

yesterday. Also had a Threads account never used, so am barely trying both now. Same with Reddit, not using but there.

* Have not posted, yet in Bluesky I've suddenly got 5+ not known and not solicited Followers? How did they find me and why?

* Blue/Threads lots of pictures. Seem to have "words to the wise" encouragement posts. Shocker to see a porn dude's near x-rated pic.

* DU's format is perfection for me, not used to the endless random scrolling on those two.

* How to bring posts from there to here? And how to post pics?




Sweet Freedom

(4,004 posts)
31. Unsolicited followers
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:44 PM
Monday

I think people there are actively trying to support small accounts. There's even a popular post to boost dems to 1K followers.

Jit423

(276 posts)
10. I only hope it remains faithful to the truth and facts and good solid information to raise the level of discourse
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:55 AM
Monday

for all. So far, no badgering or ugliness.

ToxMarz

(2,246 posts)
13. I don't disagree with the potential here for Bluesky
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:32 AM
Monday

But it is funny how things "blow up" all of a sudden through the media. Bluesky hasn't changed anything today (I've had an account for months), but all of a sudden now to all the media it is the bestest newest thing around. It's dominating all of my news feeds. Up to now, the media reporting has treated the exact same thing as just "Meh".
Better late than never though.

Takket

(22,515 posts)
16. i've been on bluesky 18 months. it is great
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:40 AM
Monday

There is no algorithm ramming what it "THINKS" you want down your throat (or as it is used on X, to promote Nazi propaganda). you control your feed, and blocking/muting is totally up to the user. not like X where people call still read your posts even if you block them.

There are also moderated lists you can sign up for to block Nazis en masse. i even signed up for one list that automatically blocks anyone with "MAGA" in their user name or bio.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,157 posts)
23. Just signed up!
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:21 PM
Monday

Looking forward to conversations with sane people. I'm sure there will be trolls, but I doubt they'll last too long.

mainer

(12,179 posts)
26. It's really, really easy to block MAGAs and Nazis there.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:30 PM
Monday

A number of BlueSky accounts are dedicated to blocking the worst of the worst, and they'll do the blocking for you, if you subscribe to their accounts. If you encounter a bot or a nazi, you report them, and they'll be added to the blocklist. It's essentially crowdsourcing safety.

mainer

(12,179 posts)
28. I also like the fact the CEO is a young woman. So is the COO.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:32 PM
Monday

Imagine that. A tech company headed by two young women. It just FEELS safer.

GoCubsGo

(33,008 posts)
29. Hal Sparks and Cliff Schecter are having a GREAT discussion about this
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:37 PM
Monday

on Hal's "morning " show today. You can hear it on his YouTube page, under the title "Hal Sparks Monday Megaworldwide." Which means you can go listen to the whole thing later, if you can't listen now. Lots of ins and outs of both platforms, as well as other, how to best exit Twitter, and even how to fuck with Twitter/Grok. It's a must-listen.

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