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milestogo

(17,795 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 09:58 AM Monday

What happens if we have a pandemic during the next four years?

The coronavirus is still out there, still mutating. There are always new viruses around the bend. Last time we had a shit president but we also had Dr Fauci (who they want to prosecute) and the CDC to guide policy.

Can you imagine what this would be like with RFK Jr at the helm?

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What happens if we have a pandemic during the next four years? (Original Post) milestogo Monday OP
It's going to be bad... Richard D Monday #1
Great Influenza epidemic of 1918-1920. hunter Monday #13
I'm thankful my spouse and I Prof. Toru Tanaka Monday #30
We are so fucked. (nt) Paladin Monday #2
We'll have to wear our masks, stay isolated, take recommended meds, refuse to drink bleach and shine a Silent Type Monday #3
Personally, I've never shone a bright light up my ass, so I'm going to stay open-minded about that. Xavier Breath Monday #10
The care and death industries will prosper nitpicked Monday #4
We'll stay home just like we did during the last pandemic. OLDMDDEM Monday #5
we won't know it is happening rampartd Monday #26
Good point. OLDMDDEM Monday #31
A whole lot of people die Bettie Monday #6
Covid mutations, bird flu, MPox Mike 03 Monday #7
We won't know there's an epidemic in the U.S. yardwork Monday #8
Spot on! Emile Monday #23
Bleach stock goes up. Sneederbunk Monday #9
It's entirely possible. Why wasn't this brought up during the campaign? Walleye Monday #11
Most think it's every 100 years. jimfields33 Monday #12
That's just superstition. hunter Monday #15
Well, whatever the next major crisis is, we know Trump will blow it Walleye Monday #16
But every president doesn't create a crisis... milestogo Monday #17
No, we usually expect them to help resolve the crisis. Not this time. Walleye Monday #22
Considering that the current bird flu DemonGoddess Monday #14
We're screwed with no kisses. greatauntoftriplets Monday #18
H5N1 is looming ever more closely JCMach1 Monday #19
It'll be worse than the first time the Orange Turd dealt with it. bif Monday #20
Stock up on hand sanitizer, masks and stay home Emile Monday #21
Like others have said, if we have another pandemic, it'll be worse sakabatou Monday #24
We had a pandemic in 1919. maxsolomon Monday #25
We could have had an Ebola one under Obama, but it was contained because of preparation and intelligence. Gore1FL Monday #28
As I said, not impossible. maxsolomon Monday #35
Millions will die again. nt Gore1FL Monday #27
A lot more bdamomma Monday #29
I read history when the US government gave blankets Arne Monday #32
I think he will be 'suggesting' ivermectin for treatment Norbert Monday #33
Stay smart ChicagoRonin Monday #34
Going to be a lot of dead people, republianmushroom Monday #36

hunter

(38,924 posts)
13. Great Influenza epidemic of 1918-1920.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:39 AM
Monday
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

My great aunt's first job was working for a pharmacist. When the pharmacy's bicycle delivery person took ill she took over his job which soon morphed into something much more stressful. I didn't understand how stressful until I was working in a blood bank keeping track of our hemophilia patients who were dying from AIDS. I'd read their obituaries, many of them young people, and the actual cause of death was never mentioned. ( If there is a hell Ronald Reagan is burning in it...)

My great aunt lived a few years past 100 and never suffered any kind of flu. I've not been so fortunate, the sickest I've ever been was with the "Hong Kong" Flu of 1968-70. More recently the Covid-19 virus knocked me on my ass, even though I was being very careful to avoid infection.

I simply don't understand Trump voters. I've met Trump voters who witnessed friends and family dying of COVID, even parents and siblings, who still refuse vaccines and voted for Trump again.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,290 posts)
30. I'm thankful my spouse and I
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:05 PM
Monday

have been vaccinated and received several boosters.

But with Kennedy at the helm, who knows? What if he tries to outlaw or discontinue the vaccines? Trump won’t do shit except say the numbers of people sick and dying are fake or just ignore them completely. If a nut like Kennedy takes charge this nation is truly fucked.

Silent Type

(6,655 posts)
3. We'll have to wear our masks, stay isolated, take recommended meds, refuse to drink bleach and shine a
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:05 AM
Monday

bright light up our rears, etc.

Those that are too stupid will die and help spread the disease. It's a real concern.

Xavier Breath

(5,005 posts)
10. Personally, I've never shone a bright light up my ass, so I'm going to stay open-minded about that.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:28 AM
Monday

In all seriousness, yes, we are going to have to remain vigilant. Pubic spaces will be populated with science deniers breathing their sicknesses into the air. I'm probably going to spend a lot more time outdoors and avoiding strangers in general and enclosed spaces whenever possible. This is where we are now.

rampartd

(316 posts)
26. we won't know it is happening
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:59 AM
Monday

a one liner "hoax" on the "news" and , of course

"i am not responsible" trump

Mike 03

(16,780 posts)
7. Covid mutations, bird flu, MPox
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:11 AM
Monday

The thought is terrifying. Competent scientists and doctors will be afraid to state the obvious facts about transmission, or give advice because they will be afraid of angering "the new administration" and his base of barbarians.

They STILL are not done persecuting Dr. Fauci! God help that poor man.

yardwork

(64,329 posts)
8. We won't know there's an epidemic in the U.S.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:16 AM
Monday

Last time, Trump urged states to stop reporting deaths and to stop testing for COVID. This time, the CDC won't be there to report data. People might notice that there seem to be a lot of people dying from mysterious illness, but there won't be any national reporting to show what's actually happening.

Same with workplace accidents and contaminated food. We'll have "the best" safety because the data will say there's no problem. Trump will make sure of that.

We're on the edge of the dismantling of the public health safety net that made America safe and healthy. Bob Kennedy will take us down.

Walleye

(35,661 posts)
11. It's entirely possible. Why wasn't this brought up during the campaign?
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:31 AM
Monday

Has the people in America think Covid was one and done. It won’t happen again they think.

jimfields33

(18,837 posts)
12. Most think it's every 100 years.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:39 AM
Monday

I know there have been others, but the media only mentions 1920 and 2020.

hunter

(38,924 posts)
15. That's just superstition.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:50 AM
Monday

The world is not the same place it was 100 years ago, it's changing rapidly and we're carelessly creating more opportunities for viruses to mutate into something dangerous and spread.

Pandemics are similar to floods. As greenhouse gas pollution warms the earth's atmosphere what used to be "100 year floods" in some places are happening two or three times a decade.

Walleye

(35,661 posts)
16. Well, whatever the next major crisis is, we know Trump will blow it
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:53 AM
Monday

Every president has to go through some crisis in their term usually

bif

(23,975 posts)
20. It'll be worse than the first time the Orange Turd dealt with it.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:39 AM
Monday

With any amount of luck, he'll be one of the first ones to kick the bucket.

maxsolomon

(35,044 posts)
25. We had a pandemic in 1919.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:58 AM
Monday

We had a pandemic in 2020.

We're not going to have a pandemic in 2025-2028. Not impossible, but not probable.

Gore1FL

(21,883 posts)
28. We could have had an Ebola one under Obama, but it was contained because of preparation and intelligence.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:00 PM
Monday

We don't have preparation or intelligence, now with Trump.

maxsolomon

(35,044 posts)
35. As I said, not impossible.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:24 PM
Monday

But not probable.

We have Bird Flu, Monkeypox, RSV, CV-19 all threatening us. I don't think we'll see a Pandemic from those.

Arne

(3,601 posts)
32. I read history when the US government gave blankets
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:14 PM
Monday

to the Native American tribes.

There are a lot of blankets and there will be millions of cold homeless.

Norbert

(6,528 posts)
33. I think he will be 'suggesting' ivermectin for treatment
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:19 PM
Monday

and will settle on nothing more. It is already on RFK jr's list of things.

ChicagoRonin

(700 posts)
34. Stay smart
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 12:24 PM
Monday

Ignore the news. Get the best verifiable info you can. Talk to your doctor. Talk to people who work in hospitals. Start building an info network now.

If you're not up to date on any vaccinations, take care of it ASAP.

Prepare to be heartless in the face of non-believers. That relative who gets mad you won't come to their maskless dinner party over the holidays - Tough.

Be prepared to make some tough workplace decisions in the near future, because big corporations are going to start trying to force people back into the office more than ever.

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