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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsConsider this: Joe & Mika have self-destructed *
by aligning themselves with TSF. You can't be in the middle and claim you're being journalists. I say that because there's no way they can continue to have guests like Eugene Robinson and Al Sharpton tearing the Felon a new one every morning. TSF will send a message to cut it out.
They're now FOX Lite.
* I don't care whether Joe or Mika had an "epiphany" or the corporates at MSNBC told them to do it. If the latter, they should have resigned.
Bluetus
(87 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:33 PM - Edit history (1)
Nothing new or surprising here. Watch any evening in the past 8 years, if you have time and brain cells to burn. It will be little more than a steady stream of Trump speeches and citations and commentary. MSNBC may be Trump's biggest enabler because they normalized him with the audience that would have been the most inclined to oppose him.
Of course, they positioned themselves as the ones wagging the finger at Trump. Nonetheless, they gave Trump 10X more coverage than Biden or anybody else. Maybe 100X more coverage -- I don't know, I stopped watching that Comcast garbage a long time ago.
ancianita
(38,514 posts)synni
(76 posts)Years ago, he was posting on Daily Kos. When Comcast took over, I predicted MSNBC would take a turn to the right, and his job would be in peril.
I was excited when he personally replied to my post; I watched his show religiously. He replied to me that (because Countdown was MSNBC's #1 show at the time) his job wasn't in jeopardy, because Comcast was in it for the money.
I told him that, no, these RW companies were out to control the narrative, even if they had to lose money in the process.
I was right. I, a high-school educated small-town woman, predicted something big that this Cornell-educated newsman didn't.
But I take no pleasure in my triumph in that argument. God, how I wish I had been wrong.
surfered
(3,079 posts)PortTack
(34,642 posts)CTyankee
(65,012 posts)I think Joe and Mika have made a huge blunder in their careers.
You know the old saying: "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas."
travelingthrulife
(683 posts)Unregulated capitalism seems to rot some people's brains.
haele
(13,520 posts)What would matter most to them and most of the mainstream punditry class? Name recognition and access to the national camera and best parties, or Journalistic Integrity?
Neither are really experianced journalists to begin with. She was closest, being an English Major (nothing wrong with that, just means she should know better).
Haele
Deuxcents
(19,694 posts)A reporter for CBS news 20 years ago. She should have known better
hadEnuf
(2,698 posts)They have made themselves irrelevant.
BattleRow
(1,194 posts)Maru Kitteh
(29,085 posts)The term "appeasement tour" comes to mind. Edit: To supplicate or not to supplicate....
NewHendoLib
(60,496 posts)Then again that's my view in TV in general
ancianita
(38,514 posts)Once a Republican sellout, always a Republican sellout. "You will know them by their fruits. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit." Matthew 7:16-18
gordianot
(15,512 posts)Ole Tweety was hot to get a viral quote such as women need to go to prison for abortion. You get that orange dyed infant in front of a microphone anything is possible HREFs also likes to insult people. Mika and Joe may be naive enough to think they are setting a trap.
AZ8theist
(6,491 posts)Not the least bit surprising he flip-flopped on the Treasonous pig.
Let's never forget, Jerk Off was PART OF THE PROBLEM in 2015. He had Dotard on his show practically every day. He kissed his ass relentlessly. He got married at Merde Lardo. He was a Dotard fan-boy until he wasn't. He realized what a disaster the treasonous liar is and always will be. Until now. Now he wants to kiss his ass again.
He is the ULTIMATE HYPOCRITE.
I never watch or listen to that asshole. NEVER.
GoCubsGo
(33,006 posts)That self-righteous motherfucker was one of the biggest finger-waggers in the lot of those witch hunters. He's nothing but an right-leaning, opportunist asshole.
City Lights
(25,298 posts)Joe has always been too sanctimonious for my taste.
Was Mika bleeding when she went to see Don this time around?
bucolic_frolic
(46,971 posts)alarimer
(16,574 posts)They are trying to save their own skin. Currying favor with the potentate.
LSparkle
(11,748 posts)Sorry Rachel that includes you. I also love Lawrence but I hope they both leave that cesspool behind and go do good work elsewhere.
bdamomma
(66,379 posts)and Al Sharpton should leave too.
AngryOldDem
(14,176 posts)I hope that Joy, Nicolle, Chris, Ali, Lawrence, and most everybody else has more integrity than Joe and Mika. They should be shunned, quite frankly. I cannot abide hypocrites and anybody else who would suck up to Trump. Cowards.
No wonder MSNBCs ratings have dropped. I used to watch MJ for awhile before I left for work. Not anymore.
We need the TV equivalent of Air America right now. A no bullshit network.
bdamomma
(66,379 posts)media is filling the void now. Dr. Mary Trump and the Nerd Avengers, Robert Reich, Meidas Touch, Glenn Kirschner (Justice Matters), Randi Rhodes on Free Speech Tv. Keith Olbermann and so on. They must be "subscribed" and info shared.
onecaliberal
(35,787 posts)calimary
(84,306 posts)pamdb
(1,369 posts)Been a Morning Joe watching since maybe 2016? No more. I just got back two hours in the morning.
Maybe they should rewatch Game of Thrones and see what happens when you bend the knee. I always figured if the repubs got a candidate that was more like Saint Ronnie he'd jump back in the fold, but this...
I just hope Nicolle Wallace doesn't follow suit.
or Rachel
Demsrule86
(71,021 posts)TNNurse
(7,121 posts)Hoping those great liberal guests they have had in the past shun them.
AngryOldDem
(14,176 posts)Especially those former intelligence and military experts.
MSNBC, Joe, and Mika have stepped in a huge, steaming pile of bull excrement here.
La Coliniere
(848 posts)and dont plan on watching anytime soon, maybe never again. My wife, who has always detested both of them said last week, Theyll be kissing the felons ass pretty soon, after she read that MSNBC lost half its viewership since the election. She was correct, as usual.
robleb
(271 posts)Mika is just a news reader pretending to be a journalist.
Joe is just a republican playing games, but with no real convictions.
They are not FOX-lite.
They are dumbass-heavy.
3catwoman3
(25,430 posts)...was blown to smithereens by that stupid pose.
live love laugh
(14,395 posts)I dont understand how people believed that they were anything other than that.
They are who they always were.
claudette
(4,484 posts)seemed to fight hard for womens reproductive rights. Now she kisses the butt of the man responsible for the calamity
AngryOldDem
(14,176 posts)SharonClark
(10,323 posts)Self promoting and self-serving people on TV. Neither is a journalist and recently they have really gotten into interviewing celebrities from Broadway and Hollywood.
Mika is an elitist and Joe is a blithering grifter. Their marriage was a match made in heaven.
CTyankee
(65,012 posts)He was separated, she was not. I think she said something like "The heart has its reasons" for her rather disgusting behavior.
amuse bouche
(3,665 posts)I was completely disgusted. Buh bye capitulators
Dock_Yard
(153 posts)Figarosmom
(2,612 posts)flashman13
(852 posts)and always has been. His show is a fake. His whole persona is just an act. It is time to change sides again. He has done so many times in the past. There will be more.
ColinC
(10,667 posts)Just in different ways.
claudette
(4,484 posts)NEVER watch them again. The lowest of hypocrites. I could barely stand Joe anyway. He rambles and rambles. But to kiss Dumpys orange butt is too much for me. Makes me want to 🤮
Botany
(72,474 posts)If you cant stand for your publicly endorsed principles then you stand for nothing.
paleotn
(19,178 posts)The reich already hates them. Why not piss off the other side too!
carpetbagger
(4,774 posts)Scarborough was a Gingrich protege, so no surprise.
Maybe not fully right wing, but certainly they're the couple from the morning show on Don't Look Up.
KatyaR
(3,527 posts)is gone now. How could they do that, especially with the way TFG spoke about Mika?
It's disgusting, all around.
Jarqui
(10,487 posts)With the election over: "Boost your ratings/advertising by sucking up to Trump or you're done here"
Trump won't give them the time of day unless they meet his 'conditions'
Like nearly all of Trump's relationships, it isn't going to end well.
Stick a fork in them. They're done but just don't realize it yet.
iluvtennis
(20,847 posts)all in the name of RATINGS. Morning Joe has now lost me - I stopped watching today around 615am EST.
Will only be DVR'ing Nicole Wallace, Lawrence O'Donnell, and Rachel Maddow.
Hassler
(3,676 posts)Intractable
(541 posts)They were never to be taken seriously.
Emile
(29,784 posts)FSogol
(46,503 posts)out normalizing him. So sad it took so long for everyone to figure it out.
Roc2020
(1,712 posts)Stick a fork in them. Unless MSNBC wants to keep them on to save face.
IcyPeas
(22,610 posts)Also being on the west coast their show comes on at 3 a.m. so I've never really watched them.
returnee
(280 posts)DontBelieveEastisEas
(1,088 posts)brush
(57,471 posts)It sure puts most of their regular guests like WAPO's Eugene Robinson, Rev. Al Sharton, Donny Deutsch and other left-of-center regulars in an awkward position as they know the pair went to kiss trump's ass.
We have to see what they will do.
Passages
(1,030 posts)Deuxcents
(19,694 posts)Hotler
(12,153 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(12,552 posts)ForgedCrank
(2,190 posts)we are burning down journalists who interview public figures that we don't like?
If someone doesn't do it, how the hell are we supposed to know what he's up to?
I absolutely do not understand what the problem is here.
newdeal2
(973 posts)With or without Morning Joe interviewing him.
Yavin4
(36,363 posts)They kissed his ass at his dinner party.
ForgedCrank
(2,190 posts)don't understand this though. they are supposed to be journalists, not emotional support talking heads. I don't want them telling me what I want to hear, I want them telling me the truth. They are a utility, a tool, not a friend or political ally. At least, that is what they are supposed to be.,
Yavin4
(36,363 posts)One, neither Joe or Mika are journalists. They are editorialists at best. Two, Trump is not some pol that we don't like. He's a fascist authoritarian that threatens all of us. Three, they didn't meet with him to interview him. They met with him to cozy up to him.They flattered him. They didn't challenge him.
If you don't see the problem, maybe this site isn't for you.
ForgedCrank
(2,190 posts)yourself. If you can't tolerate other opinions, maybe this site isn't for you.
DET
(1,690 posts)Havent watched in a while. I really liked their regular guests (especially Eugene Robinson and Donny Deutsch) and their round table discussions. I have no idea why they thought kissing up to Trump was a good idea, but like others, Im done.
TheKentuckian
(26,181 posts)then they may have some concerning blind spots in the category of ally selection.
All they exist for is to red shift their audience.
Skittles
(159,240 posts)and I have been proven correct
SocialDemocrat61
(2,829 posts)Never trusted them. Have always seen as two self serving opportunists.
Faux pas
(15,363 posts)care do you? He's always been a pompous ASSHOLE and she has lost all credibility as an empowerer of women way before she became Joe's permanent lapdog. Disgusting
snowybirdie
(5,627 posts)when the show started? Joe was married to the first wife with kids, then he married the second wife and had another couple of kids and now to Mika who left her husband for Joe. Anyone think they'll remain married for long after this? Any bets?
getagrip_already
(17,430 posts)They NEVER disagreed with him on political grounds. He attacked them personally, so they went negative on him.
Sure, mika got all high and mighty on womens issues, but they were superficial. She didnt really rally anyone to the cause. Snark is not a position.
He always played to a base. He is still vying for future office. He wants that job. He sees his shot in a failed tsf regime. When the country will want sanity but the media wont let it want a dem.
The Unmitigated Gall
(4,522 posts)As is the rest of corporate media.
Pathetic and weak capitulation.