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no_hypocrisy

(48,778 posts)
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 03:50 PM Monday

Consider this: Joe & Mika have self-destructed *

by aligning themselves with TSF. You can't be in the middle and claim you're being journalists. I say that because there's no way they can continue to have guests like Eugene Robinson and Al Sharpton tearing the Felon a new one every morning. TSF will send a message to cut it out.

They're now FOX Lite.

* I don't care whether Joe or Mika had an "epiphany" or the corporates at MSNBC told them to do it. If the latter, they should have resigned.

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Consider this: Joe & Mika have self-destructed * (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Monday OP
"They're now FOX Lite." They always were Bluetus Monday #1
Yep, they always played to where they thought the political power was. Good riddance to profit seeking equivocators. ancianita Monday #5
I argued with Keith Olbermann about Comcast synni Tuesday #72
They gave him airtime in 2016 for ratings. Now, maybe they just don't want to be sent off to a re-education camp. surfered Monday #2
Don't f..ing care! PortTack Monday #4
BIG mistake and your point is well taken! Eugene in particular must be shaking his head. He's a great guy. CTyankee Monday #3
Rather than risk being fired by Dictator Trump, they fired themselves. travelingthrulife Tuesday #73
They're saving their butts. haele Monday #6
Saving their butts but not their reputation. Flip flopping again 😤 Deuxcents Monday #51
Mika was snowybirdie Tuesday #78
They are now officially just another part of the right-wing Trump Wurlitzer. hadEnuf Monday #7
Worthlesstzer BattleRow Monday #16
Nicely done there. Maru Kitteh Monday #66
hmm Paul-EM Monday #8
I've never watched them and no idea why anyone does NewHendoLib Monday #9
Me, neither. ancianita Monday #11
I suspect they are hoping for a Tweetie moment. gordianot Monday #10
Morning Jerk Off can go fuck himself... AZ8theist Monday #12
Yup. Did people forget this rat-bastard's role in the Clinton impeachment? GoCubsGo Tuesday #75
I dumped those two years ago and never looked back. City Lights Monday #13
They had a long run, but the game is up. bucolic_frolic Monday #14
Obeying in advance alarimer Monday #15
MSNBC is dead to me LSparkle Monday #17
Joy Reid bdamomma Monday #41
They all should leave. AngryOldDem Monday #44
Independent bdamomma Monday #48
Same. The Rev and Joy too. onecaliberal Monday #50
I don't watch 'em, and never trusted them. calimary Monday #18
No more pamdb Monday #19
Right claudette Monday #31
Yes Joe and Mika are dead to me. Demsrule86 Monday #20
Have not watched in quite awhile. TNNurse Monday #21
Mass exodus is definitely called for. AngryOldDem Monday #45
Haven't watched those opportunists since Monday November 4th La Coliniere Monday #22
Frauds robleb Monday #23
Any claim to serious journlism Mika may have hoped for... 3catwoman3 Monday #52
LOL live love laugh Monday #24
Mika claudette Monday #30
"Know your worth!" AngryOldDem Monday #46
Mika and Joe have always been the most SharonClark Monday #49
I wonder how much they paid to her ex husband whom she cheated on when she started her affair with Joe? CTyankee Monday #59
I tuned them in this am. After 5 minutes amuse bouche Monday #25
I gave them 8. Then OFF. For a very long time to come. Dock_Yard Monday #70
I stopped watching them long ago. Nt Figarosmom Monday #26
If you were a regular listener of Olbermann you would know Scarborough is a fake flashman13 Monday #27
Most of us have ColinC Monday #28
I will claudette Monday #29
So much for Mika's, women's empowerment and know your worth blather. Botany Tuesday #80
Exactly! claudette Tuesday #81
And now they have no audience. paleotn Monday #32
Brezinski's dad must be rolling over in his grave carpetbagger Monday #33
Yeah, what very little regard I had for them KatyaR Monday #34
Cable is stagnating. Little to no growth since 2008 Jarqui Monday #35
I was really pissed off when they announce they went to kiss the ring of TSF over the weekend. And I think it is iluvtennis Monday #36
Opportunism is as opportunism does Hassler Monday #37
One has to bear in mind how it all started. Intractable Monday #38
Watch CSPAN Washington Journal in that time slot. Emile Monday #39
Did everyone forget they did the same thing when he ran for president the first time? They started FSogol Monday #40
They are done Roc2020 Monday #42
Are they "journalists" though? Or tv news presenters whose bosses give the orders. IcyPeas Monday #43
I find them incredibly annoying. nt returnee Monday #47
Such hypocrisy DontBelieveEastisEas Monday #53
Agreed. Their pilgrimage to MAL reveals who they really are. brush Monday #54
Comcast News, don't watch it. Passages Monday #55
Was not happy when they let Medhi Hassan and Tiffany Cross go. Will see who stands tall after this Deuxcents Monday #56
They're going to call us mean and nasty in the morning for the things we said here today. Hotler Monday #57
They're sell outs who have lost a viewer MustLoveBeagles Monday #58
So now ForgedCrank Monday #60
We will hear about every fart from that guy for the next 4 years newdeal2 Monday #61
They didn't interview him. Yavin4 Monday #63
I still ForgedCrank Monday #64
Bullshit. Yavin4 Monday #62
Speak for ForgedCrank Monday #65
Another One Bites the Dust DET Monday #67
If folks are feeling betrayed by Joe and Mika TheKentuckian Monday #68
I have always found them insufferable Skittles Monday #69
Don't feel betrayed at all SocialDemocrat61 Tuesday #74
I don't Faux pas Monday #71
Apropos of nothing, anyone remember snowybirdie Tuesday #76
Their recent anti-tsf attitude was personal, not political... getagrip_already Tuesday #77
Dead to me. The Unmitigated Gall Tuesday #79

Bluetus

(87 posts)
1. "They're now FOX Lite." They always were
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 03:57 PM
Monday

Last edited Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Nothing new or surprising here. Watch any evening in the past 8 years, if you have time and brain cells to burn. It will be little more than a steady stream of Trump speeches and citations and commentary. MSNBC may be Trump's biggest enabler because they normalized him with the audience that would have been the most inclined to oppose him.

Of course, they positioned themselves as the ones wagging the finger at Trump. Nonetheless, they gave Trump 10X more coverage than Biden or anybody else. Maybe 100X more coverage -- I don't know, I stopped watching that Comcast garbage a long time ago.

ancianita

(38,514 posts)
5. Yep, they always played to where they thought the political power was. Good riddance to profit seeking equivocators.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:34 PM
Monday

synni

(76 posts)
72. I argued with Keith Olbermann about Comcast
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:08 AM
Tuesday

Years ago, he was posting on Daily Kos. When Comcast took over, I predicted MSNBC would take a turn to the right, and his job would be in peril.

I was excited when he personally replied to my post; I watched his show religiously. He replied to me that (because Countdown was MSNBC's #1 show at the time) his job wasn't in jeopardy, because Comcast was in it for the money.

I told him that, no, these RW companies were out to control the narrative, even if they had to lose money in the process.

I was right. I, a high-school educated small-town woman, predicted something big that this Cornell-educated newsman didn't.

But I take no pleasure in my triumph in that argument. God, how I wish I had been wrong.

surfered

(3,079 posts)
2. They gave him airtime in 2016 for ratings. Now, maybe they just don't want to be sent off to a re-education camp.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:05 PM
Monday

CTyankee

(65,012 posts)
3. BIG mistake and your point is well taken! Eugene in particular must be shaking his head. He's a great guy.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:08 PM
Monday

I think Joe and Mika have made a huge blunder in their careers.

You know the old saying: "Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas."

travelingthrulife

(683 posts)
73. Rather than risk being fired by Dictator Trump, they fired themselves.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:16 AM
Tuesday

Unregulated capitalism seems to rot some people's brains.

haele

(13,520 posts)
6. They're saving their butts.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:34 PM
Monday

What would matter most to them and most of the mainstream punditry class? Name recognition and access to the national camera and best parties, or Journalistic Integrity?
Neither are really experianced journalists to begin with. She was closest, being an English Major (nothing wrong with that, just means she should know better).

Haele

hadEnuf

(2,698 posts)
7. They are now officially just another part of the right-wing Trump Wurlitzer.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:35 PM
Monday

They have made themselves irrelevant.

ancianita

(38,514 posts)
11. Me, neither.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:09 PM
Monday

Once a Republican sellout, always a Republican sellout. "You will know them by their fruits. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit." Matthew 7:16-18

gordianot

(15,512 posts)
10. I suspect they are hoping for a Tweetie moment.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:07 PM
Monday

Ole Tweety was hot to get a viral quote such as “women need to go to prison for abortion”. You get that orange dyed infant in front of a microphone anything is possible HREF’s also likes to insult people. Mika and Joe may be naive enough to think they are setting a trap.

AZ8theist

(6,491 posts)
12. Morning Jerk Off can go fuck himself...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:10 PM
Monday

Not the least bit surprising he flip-flopped on the Treasonous pig.

Let's never forget, Jerk Off was PART OF THE PROBLEM in 2015. He had Dotard on his show practically every day. He kissed his ass relentlessly. He got married at Merde Lardo. He was a Dotard fan-boy until he wasn't. He realized what a disaster the treasonous liar is and always will be. Until now. Now he wants to kiss his ass again.

He is the ULTIMATE HYPOCRITE.

I never watch or listen to that asshole. NEVER.

GoCubsGo

(33,006 posts)
75. Yup. Did people forget this rat-bastard's role in the Clinton impeachment?
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 10:48 AM
Tuesday

That self-righteous motherfucker was one of the biggest finger-waggers in the lot of those witch hunters. He's nothing but an right-leaning, opportunist asshole.

City Lights

(25,298 posts)
13. I dumped those two years ago and never looked back.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:16 PM
Monday

Joe has always been too sanctimonious for my taste.

Was Mika bleeding when she went to see Don this time around?

LSparkle

(11,748 posts)
17. MSNBC is dead to me
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:19 PM
Monday

Sorry Rachel that includes you. I also love Lawrence but I hope they both leave that cesspool behind and go do good work elsewhere.

AngryOldDem

(14,176 posts)
44. They all should leave.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:57 PM
Monday

I hope that Joy, Nicolle, Chris, Ali, Lawrence, and most everybody else has more integrity than Joe and Mika. They should be shunned, quite frankly. I cannot abide hypocrites and anybody else who would suck up to Trump. Cowards.

No wonder MSNBC’s ratings have dropped. I used to watch MJ for awhile before I left for work. Not anymore.

We need the TV equivalent of Air America right now. A no bullshit network.

bdamomma

(66,379 posts)
48. Independent
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:26 PM
Monday

media is filling the void now. Dr. Mary Trump and the Nerd Avengers, Robert Reich, Meidas Touch, Glenn Kirschner (Justice Matters), Randi Rhodes on Free Speech Tv. Keith Olbermann and so on. They must be "subscribed" and info shared.

pamdb

(1,369 posts)
19. No more
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:39 PM
Monday

Been a Morning Joe watching since maybe 2016? No more. I just got back two hours in the morning.
Maybe they should rewatch Game of Thrones and see what happens when you bend the knee. I always figured if the repubs got a candidate that was more like Saint Ronnie he'd jump back in the fold, but this...

I just hope Nicolle Wallace doesn't follow suit.

AngryOldDem

(14,176 posts)
45. Mass exodus is definitely called for.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:01 PM
Monday

Especially those former intelligence and military experts.

MSNBC, Joe, and Mika have stepped in a huge, steaming pile of bull excrement here.

La Coliniere

(848 posts)
22. Haven't watched those opportunists since Monday November 4th
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:51 PM
Monday

and don’t plan on watching anytime soon, maybe never again. My wife, who has always detested both of them said last week, “They’ll be kissing the felon’s ass pretty soon”, after she read that MSNBC lost half its viewership since the election. She was correct, as usual.

robleb

(271 posts)
23. Frauds
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:56 PM
Monday

Mika is just a news reader pretending to be a journalist.
Joe is just a republican playing games, but with no real convictions.
They are not FOX-lite.
They are dumbass-heavy.


3catwoman3

(25,430 posts)
52. Any claim to serious journlism Mika may have hoped for...
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:13 PM
Monday

...was blown to smithereens by that stupid pose.

live love laugh

(14,395 posts)
24. LOL
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 05:59 PM
Monday


They're now FOX Lite.


I don’t understand how people believed that they were anything other than that.

They are who they always were.

claudette

(4,484 posts)
30. Mika
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:16 PM
Monday

seemed to fight hard for women’s reproductive rights. Now she kisses the butt of the man responsible for the calamity

SharonClark

(10,323 posts)
49. Mika and Joe have always been the most
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 07:37 PM
Monday

Self promoting and self-serving people on TV. Neither is a journalist and recently they have really gotten into interviewing celebrities from Broadway and Hollywood.

Mika is an elitist and Joe is a blithering grifter. Their marriage was a match made in heaven.

CTyankee

(65,012 posts)
59. I wonder how much they paid to her ex husband whom she cheated on when she started her affair with Joe?
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:15 PM
Monday

He was separated, she was not. I think she said something like "The heart has its reasons" for her rather disgusting behavior.

flashman13

(852 posts)
27. If you were a regular listener of Olbermann you would know Scarborough is a fake
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:09 PM
Monday

and always has been. His show is a fake. His whole persona is just an act. It is time to change sides again. He has done so many times in the past. There will be more.

claudette

(4,484 posts)
29. I will
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:14 PM
Monday

NEVER watch them again. The lowest of hypocrites. I could barely stand Joe anyway. He rambles and rambles. But to kiss Dumpy’s orange butt is too much for me. Makes me want to 🤮

Botany

(72,474 posts)
80. So much for Mika's, women's empowerment and know your worth blather.
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:34 AM
Tuesday

If you can’t stand for your publicly endorsed principles then you stand for nothing.

carpetbagger

(4,774 posts)
33. Brezinski's dad must be rolling over in his grave
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:23 PM
Monday

Scarborough was a Gingrich protege, so no surprise.

Maybe not fully right wing, but certainly they're the couple from the morning show on Don't Look Up.

KatyaR

(3,527 posts)
34. Yeah, what very little regard I had for them
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:24 PM
Monday

is gone now. How could they do that, especially with the way TFG spoke about Mika?

It's disgusting, all around.

Jarqui

(10,487 posts)
35. Cable is stagnating. Little to no growth since 2008
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:26 PM
Monday

With the election over: "Boost your ratings/advertising by sucking up to Trump or you're done here"

Trump won't give them the time of day unless they meet his 'conditions'

Like nearly all of Trump's relationships, it isn't going to end well.

Stick a fork in them. They're done but just don't realize it yet.

iluvtennis

(20,847 posts)
36. I was really pissed off when they announce they went to kiss the ring of TSF over the weekend. And I think it is
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:30 PM
Monday

all in the name of RATINGS. Morning Joe has now lost me - I stopped watching today around 615am EST.

Will only be DVR'ing Nicole Wallace, Lawrence O'Donnell, and Rachel Maddow.

FSogol

(46,503 posts)
40. Did everyone forget they did the same thing when he ran for president the first time? They started
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:44 PM
Monday

out normalizing him. So sad it took so long for everyone to figure it out.

IcyPeas

(22,610 posts)
43. Are they "journalists" though? Or tv news presenters whose bosses give the orders.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 06:53 PM
Monday

Also being on the west coast their show comes on at 3 a.m. so I've never really watched them.

brush

(57,471 posts)
54. Agreed. Their pilgrimage to MAL reveals who they really are.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 08:14 PM
Monday

It sure puts most of their regular guests like WAPO's Eugene Robinson, Rev. Al Sharton, Donny Deutsch and other left-of-center regulars in an awkward position as they know the pair went to kiss trump's ass.

We have to see what they will do.

ForgedCrank

(2,190 posts)
60. So now
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:20 PM
Monday

we are burning down journalists who interview public figures that we don't like?
If someone doesn't do it, how the hell are we supposed to know what he's up to?
I absolutely do not understand what the problem is here.

newdeal2

(973 posts)
61. We will hear about every fart from that guy for the next 4 years
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:22 PM
Monday

With or without Morning Joe interviewing him.

ForgedCrank

(2,190 posts)
64. I still
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:27 PM
Monday

don't understand this though. they are supposed to be journalists, not emotional support talking heads. I don't want them telling me what I want to hear, I want them telling me the truth. They are a utility, a tool, not a friend or political ally. At least, that is what they are supposed to be.,

Yavin4

(36,363 posts)
62. Bullshit.
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:24 PM
Monday

One, neither Joe or Mika are journalists. They are editorialists at best. Two, Trump is not some pol that we don't like. He's a fascist authoritarian that threatens all of us. Three, they didn't meet with him to interview him. They met with him to cozy up to him.They flattered him. They didn't challenge him.

If you don't see the problem, maybe this site isn't for you.

DET

(1,690 posts)
67. Another One Bites the Dust
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:35 PM
Monday

Haven’t watched in a while. I really liked their regular guests (especially Eugene Robinson and Donny Deutsch) and their round table discussions. I have no idea why they thought kissing up to Trump was a good idea, but like others, I’m done.

TheKentuckian

(26,181 posts)
68. If folks are feeling betrayed by Joe and Mika
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 10:45 PM
Monday

then they may have some concerning blind spots in the category of ally selection.

All they exist for is to red shift their audience.

Faux pas

(15,363 posts)
71. I don't
Mon Nov 18, 2024, 11:15 PM
Monday

care do you? He's always been a pompous ASSHOLE and she has lost all credibility as an empowerer of women way before she became Joe's permanent lapdog. Disgusting

snowybirdie

(5,627 posts)
76. Apropos of nothing, anyone remember
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:05 AM
Tuesday

when the show started? Joe was married to the first wife with kids, then he married the second wife and had another couple of kids and now to Mika who left her husband for Joe. Anyone think they'll remain married for long after this? Any bets?

getagrip_already

(17,430 posts)
77. Their recent anti-tsf attitude was personal, not political...
Tue Nov 19, 2024, 11:08 AM
Tuesday

They NEVER disagreed with him on political grounds. He attacked them personally, so they went negative on him.

Sure, mika got all high and mighty on womens issues, but they were superficial. She didnt really rally anyone to the cause. Snark is not a position.

He always played to a base. He is still vying for future office. He wants that job. He sees his shot in a failed tsf regime. When the country will want sanity but the media wont let it want a dem.

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