Dems need to normaliZe saying lame duck Trump.

The concern is that Trump will install himself as dictator.

He has talked about a dictatorship style role as head of government.
He has said no one will need to vote again.

He also claimed his first term was stolen from him due to the impeachments, etc.
So he should get two more terms.

So nothing is certain.

With AI technology, they could probably keep up the appearance of him still being alive for a year or two. Sure, people would start to wonder why they never see him in public, but he could always claim he feared assassination attempts.

He actually served the full four years of his first term. He can claim his re-election in 2020 was stolen, but he served his first term. It was not stolen from him.

The far, far bigger concern ought to be that he somehow doesn't finish this term, and Vance become President.

A few months ago that was a concern here, but it seems to have disappeared.

He has insisted otherwise and the courts continue to back him up.
And congress gives him what he wants.

Of course Vance is plan b.

Okay technically all but one.

Short of a constitutional amendment, which certainly isn't going to happen, he's not getting another term.

And that he is lying when he says he will be a dictator and no one will need to vote ever again?

The best predictor of future behavior of future behavior is past behavior.

Trump's past behavior shows us that he is a ruthless, brutal psychopath who will
break laws to get what he wants. He has a known history of criminal behavior.

This is science.

I will be happy to consider your hypothesis but I need data to back it up.

And how not a single insurrectionist has been jailed.

Oh, wait. The coup didn't succeed? A whole bunch of the Jan 6 rioters have gone to jail? Guess those are perfect proof of how easily he will declare himself dictator.

Going after the foot soldiers made Garland look like he was actually doing something.

Not one of the J6 managers, planners, funders were ever investigated and they never will be.

The insiders who detached the Dem congress panic buttons, who gave detailed plans and maps out,
who even conducted tours for the J6ers.

It is easy to go after the low hanging fruit. Garland took the easy way out.
And pretended to give a damn about justice and our democracy.

will passively accept that, right

will conclude he didn't really serve his first four years.

Perhaps the actual text of the twenty-second amendment will prove useful:

The fact is other Republicans are more afraid of Trump then we are

don’t translate to our media to Trump. I get your point about Vance as an incumbent but he will have to run off the wreckage Trump has left us.

Vance is smarter but charisma wise, he is a cold fish. But, after this election I can truly say what do I know!

Even during his first term, Dump said Democratic interference should entitle him to additional years in office.
He is already making the same noises again while trying to dismantle other checks and balances.

Constitutional term limits matter only if they are enforced (e.g. El Salvador).

but he still served the full four years.

Can anyone here seriously imagine that he will be nominated again in 2028?

What and who is going to stop him from remaining in office? He's only leaving office feet first, but he still leaves behind Vance and little Mikey Johnson and a SCOTUS majority with a moral compass so fucked up, that they couldn't find there way to the toilet!!!

That man plans to remain in office for as long as he can!

Nor your points on the Supreme Court. I believe in biology and time passing.

I find his age, no longer discussed, matters. He did not win 50% of the Country. I may be wrong but then I will introduce myself to you in the reeducation camps as we will be fellow travelers.

Our candidate for presidency then it’s gonna be more difficult

him to crack.that depends on the Courts because firing scads of Ivy League educated lawyers is most certainly going to lead to lawsuits. But I agree the DOJ could also be a disaster for us.

Republicans keep the House in 2028 and elect Trump speaker

Two of Trump's hand-picked toadies are elected President and VP

They both resign on January 21

Trump becomes the President

So the language you quoted doesn't apply.

both sides of the aisle. I am betting that he will continue his physical slide.If this is 81 for Jo Biden, who worked out and stayed fit, I don’t think 81 for TFG will be better.

So if he lives a few more years after this term, he can expect incarceration for any past and future crimes he commits.
There has to be some sort of silver lining for all of his BS!

He probably never declared bankruptcy, for one thing.

Not a logically consistent term.

He's talking about a 3rd term. They'll get the Supremes to say something like the 22nd Amendment only applies to consecutive terms.

Such as being the father of IVF. His ability to cow other people is going to be limited. These people do not wish to be cowed forever because they themselves want power.

At least that is my hope.

with the House, Senate, and Supreme Court. I'd take that position in a heartbeat.

except facts. But my post wasn’t about what has been. I am looking to the future.

He would be the President for the next 2 decades. No way would he leave in 2029. But he's going to be pushing 83 then and will be too old to be dictator.

and it will be the first time in sixteen years (since the 2012 election) that Donald Trump's name is not on the ballot. He won't be holding rallies in support of other candidates; if he isn't the center of attention, he isn't interested. GOP/MAGA candidates will be on their own to carry on his "legacy." It's unlikely that anyone else could cultivate a following like Trump has done. The right-wing noise machine may try to manufacture a successor, but the cult IS going to run out of steam...

we can run Obama again!

I don't think either will happen.

Actually, I don't think Trump will make it through four years with his increasing dementia. We'll be dealing with Vance in 2028.

but that is just a guess.

Trump might not make it four years.

I have a nagging suspicion that he doesn't really want to be President; he just wanted to win a rematch against Biden to assuage his demented ego.

With that out of the way I halfway suspect he may get tired of the whole charade and just hand it over to Vance.

He just wants the power to dismiss the cases against him, take revenge on his enemies, and intimidate world leaders into letting him build hotels in their countries.

We can start wagering as to when we'll be dealing with President Vance.

And he’s already resentful of Leon getting so much attention.

But, if Trump diminishes sufficiently or dies, there will be a MAGA power vacuum.

for 2 other priorities that he has(outside of grifting of course).

He has talked about tariffs for decades. He is single minded about tariffs.
The deportations of people. He couldn’t build the wall so he is going to build it out of us customs officers.

Was just talking about it with friends. Trump runs again somehow, we run Obama. Hopefully it won't come to that.

Fun to think about! Especially Trump losing. (Losing it?)

Which might sound wild for us 2024 folks, but he's already "joked" about wanting to serve more than 2 terms, just like he's "joked" about other things that turned out not actually to be jokes.

And yes, he might be an ancient dinosaur in 2028, but if he's sentient, he's going to want to hold on to power as long as he possibly can for all the perks and the glories of the job (including his perceived immunity thanks to the Supreme Court). Of course the actual responsibilities and duties of the job he couldn't care less about, but that's beside the point.

Or Ronald McDonald and Colonel Sanders finish the job before then. And Vance will be our reality then.

But who's going to stop him from running again? I know it's in the Constitution, but what is the actual enforcement mechanism?

I'm just hoping for a heart attack, stroke or whatever to take him out.

Remember, Trump fans are fans of HIM only. They don't care or like Vance or any other Republican.

I just hope there is something left when he finally goes.

And yet all these years later, there he is.

It’s like people don’t believe what he’s saying

Things like “you’ll never have to vote again “

I believe it.

voters again is an open question at this point.

He's just the front man de jour, the marketer in chief, the clown to distract. So, the real threats will have another 4 years to get the rest of their ducks, and levers of power in hand.

So, no, I do NOT feel better knowing he is 'term limited'. There is no way he serves his full term this time. TPTB don't really like him. He's just a very useful idiot, for now.

4 with tfg, and 8 with his acolyte.

Long before that time we won’t be capable of holding elections.

He'll then have the very powerful incumbent advantage and there may not be much of a primary.

Under Vance, they're likely to whittle down the election infrastructure enough that it will be impossible for them not to stay in power, and will probably figure out a way to get rid of term limits.

Worst case scenario, we could be looking at a 40 year Vance dictatorship.

We really are in uncharted territory.