That is how authoritarians win, because too many people are weak. That gives more strength to Trump. There will be no greatness for our country from him. Just fear. If you live long enough history repeats itself. Main stream media needs to get a spine or get a different occupation.

Check.

Since I never watched their show - I've only ever seen replayed clips - I can't say I'll stop watching now. But I'm glad to see the outrage, and I hope it makes others think about what they care about most - their obligation to the truth or the likelihood of an IRS audit.

At least it’ll happen while they still have the taste of Trump’s butt on their lips.

For trump, vengeance is everything!

A voluntary twist. There’s no such thing as proactively defusing Trump.

He’s like the snake at the zoo with the mice running around it’s pen thinking everything is normal. Until it eats them.

It just says they aren't brave, and won't be in the fight. It reinforces the idea that they should not be thought leaders for liberals, despite Joe having so much advice he'd like to give.

He and his wife are researching the move to Portugal. I grimly responded that that was not an option for me or my sister and we'd be among those who had to watch the most despondent "give up," as occurred shortly after the election in Evergreen, CO. (A couple and their dogs were found shot dead in their home without evidence of break-in and the daughter--who I minimally knew through friends found them. She indicated to police how depressed they were about the election outcome along with some financial downturns expected to become worse, so the presumption is suicide).

I don't mean to bum anyone out unduly but DO keep an eye on friends/family who you know are taking this badly. That especially includes those despondent BEFORE the election, including adolescents and teens for whatever reason but particularly those bullied or LGBTQ or Hispanic with potentially questionable status.

I doubt anyone on DU would accuse me of overreacting, but just know there are many ill-informed out there who will. Better to be proactive on this, IMO.

But that doesn't mean I'll watch them as a source of real info anymore. Whatever they say now is tainted by their fear.

said he was afraid of trump's death threats. 100% fear from a convicted felon. I have stopped watching Joe

... their extended 2016 opening rants about Hillary's emails.